Today in belgium 300 armed troops have spanned out to guard against potential terror targets against attacks. They remain on high alert following the situation last week. A series of raids was conducted on thursday. One of which foiled a terror plot planned by a group of suspected jihadists. This was the scene thursday night in an eastern belgium city. You see the belgium Counterterrorism Police killed two suspects and arrested a third in a night raid on a cell of attorneys from syria who were planning a major imminent attack possibly against policebelgium. The suspects opened fire and police attempted to issue a search warrant. The raids of other locations led to detention of 13 additional people. The raid disrupted the eminent attack but the end result that was under way for weeks and the terror plot does not appear to be linked to last weeks violence in paris. But it highlights a heightened sensitivity in the wake of the attacks as nations rushed to respond to the threat from radicalized extremists with ties to Terror Networks in the middle east. President obama spoke yesterday about the scope of that threat in a joint press conference with david cameron. This phenomenon of violent extremism, the ideology, the networks the capacity to recruit young people this has me its a sized and it is widespread and it is penetrated communities around the world. And this week, western europe acted against that extremism. Belgiums decision to use troops to reenforce police in the countrys cities came on the same day the raids in five towns in and around paris targeted people who may have been linked to the kosher market gun. Man and led to 12 arrests. It coincided with Police Action in berlin who used 250 officers raided 11 residences and arrested two men on suspicion of recruiting fighters. I want to turn to the latest developments on the story. Nbc news correspondent ron allen is in paris following developments worldwide. Dramatic pictures coming in over the past 12 hours. Where are we really seeing the most activity . Reporter were seeing a lot of activity in the muslim world, but let me start here in paris where its sort of a typical saturday afternoon. You can hear some noise in the background. Its a demonstration going on but its about womens rights. Here in the plaza behind me, there are families, skateborders, things are calm. Thats saying a lot. Because yesterday we started the day with a bomb threat and then a hostage situation, which are indications of how tense things are. Police responding to those of course. Around the world today and yesterday there are angry protests against the decision to publish an image of the prophet mohammed in iran, turkey. There were four People Killed in a protest. That happened because Police Responded with tear gas because they were struggling to control the crowds there. One reason is because there were groups here that wanted to stage a protest against the magazine and were told they couldnt so they went to the streets any way. There are police stations that have been set on fire. Very dangerous situation. France has told its nationals who live there to stay indoors as a matter of safety. Theres been a lot of this brewing over the past week. Not a lot of attention has been paid to it. A lot of people in the muslim world are angry and outraged that that image was put on the cover of the magazine. They feel its provocation and they are speaking out about it. Now were hearing more and more about it. Melissa, back to you. Thanks to ron allen in paris. I want to turn to my guests here at the table, laura philanders founder of britt tv. And michael cay, Foreign Affairs correspondent and former senior british officer. I want to let me start with you. President obama said that the threat of terrorism has penetrated communities around the world. Is that an accurate assessment of whats going on with sort of the Global Terror Network . Or has it always been present in places around the world . Thats a really good question. I think terrorism has always existed. I think terrorism in the context of globalization is something which is making the problem worse. What i mean by globalization is the ability for you and me to jump on an airplane fly to europe travel and get into syria. Thats easy to do now. If you rewind 50 years, not so easy. The ability to project through social media. Now that there are Internet Networks in places like that theres ability to get their message out there. So i think globalization is an important part of this wholistic approach we need to take in countering this it threat. The big thing that we have to acknowledge is there is a fundamental difference between what people think freedom of speech is. If we look at the pakistan parliament, they passed a bill yesterday that said freedom of expression should not be misled as a means to attack. They have every right to have that belief. But if you look at the uk who have had a show in the 90s, which was a puppet show that completely nailed global leaders, religious leaders, celebrities, if you look at private eye, which is the british e kwif elect of Charlie Hebdo, if you look at the mora coen mayor, if you dont like it then pack your bags. Theres a fundamental difference. I think you have laid on the table something that for me i am struggling with very much. This is part of why im asking the question about whether theres this new terrorism and whether it is about people being angry about sort of these values of civil libertarianism. In part because i think to frame it that way is to miss the ira, is to pretend the kkk is not terrorism, that home grown terrorism doesnt require a Global Network unless what we really mean by terrorism is those scary people with a different religious and national background. Id also encourage us to step back. If we want to look at whats me its a sized, its u. S. Wars abroad. We just interviewed a reporter in the middle east and he said with four wars waging in the middle east, it would be surprise ing surprising if sparks didnt land in europe. When it comes to the question of scary fear i want to pause there for a second. Just to say that because im starting to hear what the headline is that comes out of that. You are not making a claim, or perhaps you are, that americas Foreign Policy is responsible for the terrorist attacks against Charlie Hebdo. Theres no question we have a militarized society and nobody feel feeling more fear than muslim populations around the world in which whose countries these wars are actually waging. Lets not forget who has felt the brunt of the fear and whose lives have been most threatened in terms of detentions. I think its been kind of a chilling indication of the quality of our Public Discourse that the biggest voice has come from the head of nato. Who until he took over in october was the head for much of the last ten years has been the Prime Minister of norway was in charge when that horrendous terror attack by a White Christian guy on the teenage camp claimed 77 lives and what did the people in the Prime Minister of that country come out of that saying, we need more openness, more democracy. I think this discussion about free speech is blurring democracy and discussion with just cartoons. Thats exactly where i want to go when we come back. 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Other cities in europe and throughout the world, all of them repudiating the terrorism in france claiming the lives of 17 people including the 12 who died in president targeted assault on the Charlie Hebdo newspaper. The rallying cry thats come to signify the saktnctity of Free Expression, this week the french made another demonstration of their support for the papers and principles. When they waited in lines at kiosks across france to buy a copy of the first to go on sale since the attacks, demand for the issue pushed Charlie Hebdo prep run up to 7 million. 4 million more than the publisher initially planned. They sold out within the first few minutes after the magazine went on sale. The latest cover depicts a cartoon image of the crying prophet mohammed holding a sign saying i am charlie. Its a defiant statement against the paris killers who cited the papers caricatures of the prophet as justification for the attacks. But the cover is on the front for the mahmoud vast majority of muslim who is have no ties to terror but drew depictions as an insult to islam. Protesters in pakistan expressed that opposition when they took to the streets to condemn the new issue and the rally out of respect for the prophet mohammed. It led a clash of police that left four people with gunshot wounds. And protests are coming this morning after they took a violent turn friday when one policeman and three civilians were killed. The protests against the issue offer counterpoint for the message about free speech offered by a unified nation. The idea to the right to Free Expression must be defended in those who seek to silence by force. The message became mutt led when france followed the historic march by arresting 54 people including minors for that kind of speech. None of those arrested were linked to the attacks, but all of them broke a law that institutes harsh penalties or actions condoning or inciteing terrorism. An intoxicated man who was sentenced to four years in prison after he praised the acts of the gunman. A 22yearold was sentence edd to a year in jail for posting a video that mocked the Police Officer who was kill eded in the attack. The most high profile was a controversial frenchman who will stand trial for a Facebook Post in which he said tonight farce im concerned, i feel like charlie coubily. He is known for having created an armed gesture that resembles a salute is a pender of hate for humor that was perceived as antisemitic. Joining me now is the social justice comedian and film maker and the author of the birth of korean cool. Thank you for being here. You spent a great deal of time living in france. When we hear in the u. S. Context that france has a tradition or a commitment to free speech how accurate or inaccurate is that . Its important to point out a contextual difference between french and American Free speech. The french constitution makes a very important distinction that the government can curtail free speech in the event that it is required for national security. The u. S. Doesnt have that kind of provision. So under these rules, the penalties apply are very consistent with french law. And you have to remember that in america, theres no threat of e te rest yall invasion. Its unlikely that canada would invade us. You can actually get to africa between all of these land masses without flying. So it doesnt matter they are in a different situation. So i absolutely hear you, but part of what happens is im taken back to the point that laura made in the last block was this idea when it comes to a history of invasion across those spaces, europes relationship to the very nations that were now seeing this uprising and anger is all being framed as religious. I keep wondering if islam is the identity or the religion of these, these are also post colonial peoples in living memory. And whether or not were missing a political story as part of this. I mean absolutely. I dont think we know here in the United States were not that familiar with a colonial history of the french. I was saying to laura during the break that i have been in france when there have been algerian tear gassing subway stations, so this is something thats not kind of new to the french. The debate is very ugly. I have to say on the day of the attack on the office in paris, the ferries, you can see them leaving. The population is very the population there is very strong but at the same time, thats a city that a year ago elected a mayor member of the national front. This is the far right party, a guy who served bacon at events. Has interrupted weddings because the woman is wearing a veil. France had this whole debate about the veil and banned veil wearing. So this stuff goes very deep. I have one other point. When you mention he was arrested for defending terrorism. If we had a law like that half the people in selma would have been arrested. Absolutely. I have this presumption that my interests lie with the state. I want to play president obama yesterday with david cameron. Something he said that piqued my interest. As they work with us to respond to these circumstances, its important for europe not to simply respond with a hammer and Law Enforcement and military approaches to these problems but there has to be a recognition that the stronger the ties of a north african or a frenchman of north african descent to French Republic a sense of opportunity, thats going to be as important over time solving this it problem. They would not suggest that the solution is to become more like the french in the sense ha he might have said that it violence is learned from the french. On the one hand, i appreciate the president saying this cant be solved through a Police Crackdown alone. I but i wonder about the European Values are inherently good and we have to teach these other folks these other values. Something that pops up for me is what the competing views are. How do you deter this threat that we are perceived to be seeing coming from north africa or from syria. For me its generated by a government space. So is the deterrent increasing antiterrorism laws . Is it drawing a final line on what freedom of speech is . Is it having greater powers over taking citizenship away from someone . Is it putting more troops on the streets . Is it more covert approach that funds more resources to the intelligence communities . What im trying to highlight there is that its a multifaceted approach and we should focus on them individually and try to work out how it contributes to that greater problem. Its the deterrent. When we come back, im going to allow what you said sink in. So what is the problem and how might we think about addressing it . 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It was laid out for a set of questions if we have a problem, how do we address it . Whats the multipronged approach . You have to remember that france is a country that was invaded by germany. They were forced to deport 70,000 jews. Its a different situation than when the u. S. Has a terror threat. So they really cant do much about the fact that 56 people were arrested. This has to happen in this kind of situation. There are four people who died. This is something that really could spread in a kind of contagion that would not happen in north america. I guess maybe im having an american reaction to that in the sense that sort of my civil libertarian impulse is you have to make it more open not less. When we drive down the street the only reason we dont constantly have headon collisions is because we follow a set of rules that we believe in. You stop at the red light. To me thats what the implication has meant to do. Its to make us stop at the red light of harming one another. In america laws exist in a vacuum. In europe laws are based in history. So for example o. J. Couldnt be tried twice for the same crime. That was considered separate from the murder charge. In france if somebody is known to be a male actor thats been fined tens of thousands of euros in the past for hate speech i can understand why they would clamp down on him with what i agree is a very minor offense because they do take the whole person into context. France is a small town and america is a big city the small town knows who the people are and the troublemakers are. I think its 18th century context. Our constitutional norms are about our angst about these very nations. So as someone who practiced the ir rev rant work do i agree with the nasty antisemitic hatred perpetrated here no. I u think the french rules are extremely complicated and really hard to navigate. I would be afraid of saying anything in france because it might come off as something to Say Something might incite violence its a really subjective line that could keep moving and you dont know where you stand. But i think in terms of solutions, what we have to really look at and im sympathetic to what obama said on this. There was a time in our nations history where we thought it was okay to show menstruals and it was fine. We are completely fine with any representation of islam and muslims and thats something that i think will change. I think at some point in the future, were going to look back at this time and cant believe we were showing muslims with hairy butts. I cant believe we were doing that. What im trying to push towards is the idea is i thought we ought to have a set of moral or standards or ethical rules because then you can fight that. As you point out about the civil rights movement, theres a set of norms backed up by law about racial inequality. And you have to fight back against the laws and norms. It goes back to the comments made at the very beginning about Global Nature of our lives these days. Part of this discussion just makes meso frustrated because i think were having a conversation about free speech but arguing about the camo when we should be talking about the war. We also have fundamentalists exception lisms. One set of global rules for us and one set of global rules for the rest of you that i think is an important part of this picture. Its about policy in the state as much about the players on the ground. Were just the grass being trampled by the elephants. The policy question here. Were going to take a quick break. Im going to explain what an ungoverned space is and why its seen as problematic. We come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us i mean, were going to be there anyway why dont you just leave it for us to pick up . 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What i find fascinating about these discussions is trying to draw a line of what is religious tolerance versus how you can arrest someone for inciting hatred or violence. I think when were talking about the new laws that france imposed in november on hate speech whether that be verbal whether if charges you can get five years and a 90,000 fine or on the internet its 120,000 seven years, or how you apply that law . Thats the difficulty. When were talking about this additional laws, we also have to think about consequences of implementing them. Youre going to need increased resources. Its all implementing the law. How do you police that law . That has a huge budget that comes with it, a huge man power requirement, a huge resource requirement and there are additional factors to the solution. Thats the point that feels like the blindness. Here you have a nihilism that seems to be emerging Second Generation immigrant population living in a state thats in a moment of economic recession and pulling back. Then the answer would be more policing and more resources towards policing instead of openness. That feels like too much of o our history has taught us thats the wrong way to go. Theres a 99 chance that all of these charges will be suspendedsuspend suspended. They didnt really imprison him. In terms of how would it be enforced, everything will be dropped. But to that point, theres expense get. Ing to that point. American history is based on precedent, they look into the future. If we do this now, everyone will want one and thats the logic. European law, french law is pace based on the past. Muss the future im sure that will happen, but right now jew z are considered a minority. And europe never really recovered from the second world war. Thats something that wasnt fought on our soil and we cant be ignorant of that. I take very seriously that theres an eminence of threat but i also suppose as a result of the eminence of its proximity, its therefore necessary for these to be the very nations that lead us in seeing let me just say, we just saw multimillion person rally rallies presumably its not like im trying to impose this from an american journalist thinks there should be free speech. They are claiming there should be free speech. Its interesting. All the discussion in europe the french have stepped and back from anything resembling the patriot act. It rises in france and is ridiculed on the front page of the New York Times this morning. Free speech we are free to geart all of your speech all over the world and possibly im hard on the french. We have our theories about freedom. Were listening. Weve got the record of the president actually demanding that the government of yemen keep an antidrone journalist in jail. But as a comedian your ir rev rans would lead to action by the state. Its one thing to fear it would lead to action by individual but by the state, do you fear that . Not in the United States. I have to say that in france i dont know what i would feel like. For example, a few months ago, who is part of a nonhate group put up antimuslim ads. And that was perfectly legal in the United States. Did i find the ads appalling . Absolutely, but she was able to do that and thats because thats protected. Its very clear. I do think the claims should be able to march through. I dont want them to. I would prefer they not, but do i think they have a right and the repression of that right would lead to a more dangerous situation, i do. When we organize to stop the march rather than pass rules. When we look at the consequences of our actions, it was to show solidarity, which is fantastic. In order to implement change whatever it may be it has to have political bite. As soon as the political side gets involved, all sorts of controversy broke loose. People then go back and say how can these leaders take part in a freedom of expression march when back home they are should president obama have gone . The point that you just brought up about the ways in which those leaders led to hey, i havent noticed free speech in your country. It seems like its about to happen in france. I dont know when its happening, which is its going to be the country that holds the first against the killings in nigeria. There youre showing exactly the kind of global. Consciousness to say we mourned our dead in paris. But were going to mourn the thousands slaughtered by boko haram. They kind of messed up and thats not going to be a popular statement. One thing they didnt do and i read an oped criticize inging this, is unlike in america when Something Like this happens and they say basically not all muslim hads the french communitys relationship with islam is so complicated that even though there was a march they were not willing to distance themselves from the jihadists. Theres a state of massive confusion. Particularly i think we should always separate people from organizations. There were many french muslims or french citizens of islamic descent and north african descent who were standing as citizens and individuals against it. Now what was happening organizationally is so much more to talk about. Thank you to the panel. Still to come this morning, mitt romneys big speech last night at the Republican National committee. Yes, mitt romney is back. And i love it. But when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. I dont like asking for help. I took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. 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It has begun retaliating against vigilante forces to defend their towns against boko haram. This month a massive attack on the string of towns on the shores of lake chad has Brought International attention back to nigeria. On january 3rd boko haram fighters attacks a military base. After a gunfight of several hours, soldiers put down their weapons and fled leaving the area in the hands of boko haram and they were looting and shooting men, women and children. The attack went on for four days. More than 10,000 people fled. Hundreds of civilians were likely killed according to local officials and human rights groups, although its impossible to know the exact number. The government. Claims just 150 people were killed. Many of them boko haram fighters but the government is known to underestimate casualties when it acknowledges them at all. Their president was in the capital to meet with survivor who is escaped. It was his first visit to the area in nearly two years. Join ing joining me now is the Africa Division for human rights watch. So it was initially them saying 2,000 people. Now were looking at reports as 150. Why this discrepancy . Its been fickle to put a number on the situation because we havent been able to send any investigator os to that particular corner of northeast nigeria. Were relying on second and third hand reports. This is a place where cell phone coverage does not exist. So we have been relying on hearsay. There were largest mates and lower ones. I dont think the government itself can be trusted to give an accurate number. What would be needed would be the kind of investigation that human rights researchers do in terms of going to Family Members and talking to doctors and the like. We just havent been able to do it. The area is very insecure. As you note, that reason and amnesty have relied on satellite imagery because its the closest we can get. We have one of those images. Thats sort of what we know. But clearly that doesnt quite get us to the kind of information were used to having. Our understanding coverage of what happened in europe. You make a point about the government in not being able to trust them. A piece makes this point that the difference between france and nigeria isnt that the media care about one and not the other. Its rather that one country has an effective government and the other does not. This is part of the lack of response is because of a failed state. One of the most disheartening aspects of this is how ltle the Nigerian Government centrally seems to care what is happening in the north. They have not been constituency base for president good luck jonathan. Nigeria is going into elections in a month. Its an area that historically has been quite marginalized in terms of its development. That feeds in some ways the insurgency that youre seeing. What we also know is that the insurgents are retaliating against abuses by the Nigerian Security forces themselves. They were hit two years ago by Security Forces. Interestingly, we did satellite assessment then and wrote a long analysis. They attempted to do their own and discredited ours but used all the wrong metrics and information. So they have even not contended with what is factual. So you just used a word i havent heard a lot in this conversation, which is insurgents. Is this terrorism or a civil war . Thats a good question. I think it started out more as terrorism. I think were now, and if im not mistaken the International Community for the red cross has declared this as a noninternational armed conflict. In that respect, i would argue its different than simply an act of terrorism. I started by talking about the hash tag and the 276. Do we know anything about the 200 girls that are still missing . What we know is what we know from those who have escaped. Human rights in late october put out a report where our researcher interviewed approximately 40 girl who is had escaped from boko haram captivity and we learned a lot from those interviews. We have video of that if viewers want to see it. The girls described how they were forcibly take prn their homes or markets, how they were forced to marry, change their religion, were raped, forced to engaged in forced labor. When they came back. There was little social support for them and officials never bothered to interview them to find out what had happened. Theres some valuable intelligence there. This speaks to how Little People in the Community Trust the Security Forces and vice versa. Thats been a a huge stumbling block in containing boko haram. Is there any reason to believe that boko haram is connected to these other gloeshl terrorist networks which are now impacting europe and where theres such anxiety . If the nigerians cannot deal effectively, is there a clear National Interest on the part of european nations or even the u. S. In addressing this . We have been talking about the need for more regional and International Cooperation with respect to boko haram. It does have a regional dynamic and agreement. And some of the neighboring countries are starting to put their forces together for the purposes of monitoring the border. Thats intensifying and thats a good thing. The extent to which boko haram is related to other groups we dont know one of the deficits is how the group is funded and sourced. An international investigation, a panel of experts would be very very useful for that reason. The one thing we do know is boko haram is so strong at this point it can overrun Nigerian Security forces and take their armed and the nigerians are accustomed to saying they have a strong and capable army but were seeing the holes in that now. 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In 2008 after mitt romney left his job as Massachusetts Governor hoping for a bigger one rs the presidency of the United States, he lost in the primary dropping out of the race in february of that year. Like many normal e kneeminees before him, he ran again. And they chose him over Rick Santorum and rick perry. He was the one who earned the right to advance in a general election against president obama, where, yes, he lost the election, but from what so far as i can tell, he did not lose his right to participate in our democratic process. Governor romney clearly remanins une did tered in his desire u to sit in the oval office. Hes talking about the potential third bid. Romney spoke friday night at the Republican National committees winter meeting in california. Me im giving some serious consideration to the future but this i know. We can win in 2016 as a party. In the house, in the the senate and in the white house if we communicate a clear vision of where were taking this country, what we believe in. I may not get there with you, but i promise as a party, well get to the white house. The Republican Party has something of a history of turning to a standard bear who has hyped the president ial campaign trail before. Arizona senator john mccain, the 2008 nominee, who defeated romney, had lost in the primaries in 2000 saying with president reagan lost to general ford in the primary and immediately became the hot candidate for the 1980 race after ford lost to carter. Maybe youre thinking those were primary losers who went on to become nominees and president , not Party Nominees who lost the general and sought to be the nominee again. Theres a case history for that scenario as well. Richard nixon, the republican nominee who after losing to kennedy returned eight years later to win the nomination again defeating among others George Romney and Ronald Reagan and went on to win the white house. So yes, what romney is possibly about to attempt is possible if the republican establishment lets him. But backlash has been nothing short of astonishing. The wall street journal board wrote on wednesday that the question of former Massachusetts Governor will have to answer is why he would be a better candidate than he was in 2012. The answer is not obvious. Conservative writers used a hollywood metaphor the problem is that romney for president is now an arthouse film thinking its a franchise and theres another market for a sequel when theres not. Others have been quick to highlight his flaws from his previous run to connect to portions of the electorate allowing himself to be defined by the opposition. That all may be legitimate, but there is one criticism im going to take issue with. At least three prominent republicans including hopeful rand paul, the senator from kentucky, criticized romney with variations on the phrase, he had his chance. Murdoch also told his own fox news that, quote, he had his chance, he mishandled it. I thought he was a terrible candidate. This is the presidency of the United States. Its not a tee ball game. Its got. To be about democracy, not about turns. The notion of getting his or her turn is unhealthy for a process. Whether it involves previous nominees like romney thats interesting, or legacies like george w. And jeb bush and the argument about his turn is nothing new as the Washington Post noted this week republicans have been using this argument about candidates dating back to 1892. They challenged the republican president benjamin harrison. Make your case about mr. Romneys politics where the plat porm he appears to be running on. First, we have to make the world safer. Second we have to make sure and provide opportunity for all americans regardless of the neighborhood they live in. And finally, we have to lift people out of poverty. Make your judgment about all that but do not insult our process by suggesting its about turns. Joining me now founder of grit tv Laura Flanders and joe watkins, former white house aid. Blake s this a fair critique that hes had his turn. He doesnt belong here, out you go. I think theres a distinction between hes had his chance and its his turn. So for example mitt romney had his chance. I think its okay for Republican Voters to say we tried this guy, we think hes not a good candidate or would not be a great president. We dont think he would win the white house. Something else to happen though is in 2000 everyone said it was george w. Bushs turn. He was the son of the president and everyone lined up behind him. That wrangles the idea thats undemocratic that its his turn and we should rally behind him. I agree this system where e elites and donors and money decides who can run and cant. Run is completely perverted towards our democracy. People have seen what he can offer and dont want that. But isnt every single candidate, because the notion that he has to prove hes better than 2012 seems to be false. What he has to prove is hes better than whomever hes running against. Both in the primary and the general. So even if he wasnt good enough to beat president obama doesnt mean he might not be good enough to meet the field. Its a good will to make speeches to committees and the like. But the donors will really give you a sense of how much they believe in you. This is going to be a billiondollar race. This is not for the faint of heart. Money has to be raised. You have to have a Campaign Organization in place. You have to not only win iowa but New Hampshire without missing a beat and be ready for super tuesday. You need money. Now you said something that rangels my concern about democracy. Whatever the discourse about turns that the reality is he only gets a third turn because of money. That if youre a young state senator senator, you better. Make it on that first one, not that he didnt raise tons of money, but that part of what allows a second turn, a third turn, a fourth turn is the money. Thats whats so dysfunctional about the political process. It used to be back in the 60s youd go around and meet with the Party Chairman and that was the invisible primary. Now its youre going to wall street board rooms and want to get enough superpac people to propel you forward. They lasted for so long in 2012 because they had superpac money behind them. Now were in. An arms race in terms of money. Theres so many candidates. The problem is they are campaigning by trying to woo wealthy donors. They are not trying to appeal to voters. It doesnt mean we have more democracy. But we have dibs and donors. Its not going to be a billiondollar race. We have a society where certain people have to they get to have a turn for the reasons you described. And as long as we have a situation where the 95 are all of the income generated in the recession, the rest of us dont have a chance to make it into that 1 , were going to have people that dont ever have a turn or dibs or any say. Which makes mr. Romneys preservation even more interest. Ing last night. I want to go to the control room. Do we have the sound of mitt romney talking about poverty as part of what he wants to discuss . We shall listen to it. Or we will wait and listen to it later. Thats part of what he talked about. Its totally fascinating. Hes talking about cracking down on poverty but when you talk about this process, when youre talking to billionaires if you have one billionaire thanks to superpack superpac superpac superpacs, that can get you all the way through. They are meeting with billionaires and thats what the process is about. One other sick thing about this that we have to say to call out the press in this, its not just you need all the money in order to run and be part of the forums, but the press confirms credibility on candidates. If they have lots of money. They have raised. Its how we figure out who is really in this race. So let me ask a strategic question. Presume theres something left to democracy. Its sort of been a truism for people who are in the trenches of this. Part of what you need as a candidate, people dont have ideas about some negative some positive doesnt have to be high positive i havent made a decision yet so you can teach them over the campaign. What you can buy is more information. 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Mattress discounters good deed dogs helping dogs help people when it comes to telling a a candidate that is his or her turn to run for president republicans are hardly alone. The gop primary is shaping up to be a lot more open than the one the democrats will have in 2016. This is thanks to the virtual coronation many expect former secretary of state Hillary Clinton to receive if she chooses to run for president. Given the overwhelming establishment support already on record as being ready for hillary, what will it take to defeat the former secretary of state in the primary . When has that ever happened . The idea there may not be much of a debate because of the overwhelming sentiment that 2016 is hillarys turn means the democrats will not have a chance as Political Parties to have a true debate on where the party stands. 2008 allowed for both parties to slug it out. On the democratic side we saw substantial debate about policy on the war in iraq and engaging in foreign leaders on the individual mandate as a part of Health Care Policy voter hs a choice. Not the candidate they insisted had a turn. One of the overwhelming themes working against senator obama was that it was not his turn. So i guess part of what im wondering is whether mitt romney getting in the race given the critiques opens the field widener a way that what were seeing with Hillary Clinton playing on the edges of it is that it seems to be narrowing the field. Its all about message. For republicans, money is important. But at the end of the day its a message. If you raise a lot of money and cant win a campaign what good is it . If they have a candidate who only wins, we lose again. Whoever the nominee is this time and whoever is going to stand as candidate, will be the person that is talking to everybody and winning africanamericans, winning latinos, women, young people, people winning the lgbt community. Every vote matters. You cant not exclude any group if you want to speak to america and win in 2016. Now we have some of that sound. Lets see if he sounds like what you think hed need to sound like. Lets take a listen. Under president obama the rich have gotten richer, income inequality have gotten worse and more people in poverty than ever before under this president. His policies have not worked. Their liberal policies are good every four years for a campaign but they dont get the job done. I dont know what is happening. We are the 99 . Hes going to launch his reelection campaign. Lets take him seriously for a moment. Its easy for us to say that but lets take seriously the possibility he could say who have greater credibility than me to address this question because nothing at stake. Im rich so im the guy. Why there should be a democratic primary because you made a a good point. Usually the democratic primary is wide open and chaotic and the Republican Party is usually a a bit more predictable. But this year theres a lot of questions about Hillary Clinton. Her positions on issues like income inequality. Shes been on the wrong side of that issue in many ways. All the issues about use of force abroad shes been more hawkish. Theres a lot of issues she should answer all those questions. They are going to be asked of her unless she has a real primary. Everyone would benefit including potentially hillary from there being more of a primary. I love and agree with everything you said. I take issue with the real primary thing. There are people who are running. If we are pretend that that doesnt matter, thats where i take issue. I dont think shes running, but if she does im not worried about her getting attention. We feed into this if we say its not a real primary and dont cover these candidates and try to have this debate with them. Let many ask about a name you didnt. Say, which i would think is normally presumptive. Theres a Vice President of the United States. Who has some credibility on the issue of income inequality who does the joe is everybodys friend, he sometimes says foot and mouth sort of things but we have had president s who have done that before. Where is there dead silence on my guy joe . You just heard more of it. Biden, the Vice President. He could be a credible candidate if he chooses to run. The question becomes is he going to choose to run. Hes run before. He first ran in 1988. But he would be a credible candidate for democrats if he decides to to run. He has a lot to say. He has positions that are very well known and regarded by people in both parties. Im sitting here with qualms because we have been making fun of the guy who keeps running time after time and losing. At the local level, theres a lot to be said when it comes to politics. Its important somebody tries. So we do want political debate or discussion in the public arena in a way that does a disservice to the actual process. In terms of politics Hillary Clinton, what did she have to say about ferguson . We have to talk about who has the capacity to mobilize people on the ground. What made the difference for obama is he said all sorts of nice things. Youre not allowed to do this at the end of the block to launch a critique on president obama. He also passed Health Care Reform that president clinton didnt. And he spent a lot of time rolling back things that were clintonera like. Doma and dont ask dont tell. 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Invest with confidence. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. We here on television on saturday mornings appreciate when big news comes on a friday afternoon. This week did not disappoint. This one is huge. The u. S. Supreme court is poised to make history on one of todays biggest civil rights issues. Now that it has agreed to decide whether gay and lesbian cupouples should be allowed to marry in all 50 sates. Samesex marriage is legal in 36 states and washington, d. C. 70 of americans live in places where gay couples can legally wed. The court is taking up cases for kentucky, michigan, ohio and tennessee as it decides whether the constitution requires states to give marriage licenses to samesex couples and whether states must recognize samesex marriage legally performed in other states. The attorney general says they will file a friend of the court brief in these cases supporting marriage e equality. He says quote, it is time for our nation to take another critical step forward to ensure the fundamental equality of all americans, no matter who they are, where they come from or whom they love. One of the cases that the court will rule on involves a michigan couple who between them have four adopted children. We set out for a goal and that goal was equality for our family. We are proud that we are affecting so many other families. We saw something that was wrong and we decided we needed to make it right. And to anybody else what ill say to you is stand up for what you believe in because thats what were doing. Arguments will be heard in april in the final decision is expected by the end of the Supreme Courts term in june. But there are already clues to how the justices will rule. Joining me now is a professor of constitutional law at nyu school of law and author of speak now. So back in 2013 there were just a handful of states that provided Marriage Equality. Justice scalia said by formally declaring anyone opposed to samesex marriage the majority armed well every challenge to a state law restricting to its definition. Is he right . I think he is. Hes funny how he keeps doing this because remember in 2003 he wrote a blistering decent saying this made it inevitable. He keeps feeding talking points to the other side. As you also remember in the opinion, chief Justice Roberts takes a more damage control interpretation of the majority opinion. Where he says in his decent this is only about the federal governments definition of marriage. But history has proven scalia right. Many of the states have that have flipped have used his logic. Not directly quoting the passage, north to reach a decision. Were talking about 18 months. The speed with which this happens can give it that feel of inevitability. A colleague suggests we should maybe in part because taking it up has been both celebrate ued on the side of pro Marriage Equality but also celebrated by those who are like great, the court will step in and stop this runaway train of equality. I understand we need to be temperate about this and im not the kind of person who says the world only spins forward and theres history thats a progress narrative. I understand the cautionary note there. But i do think in this instance the reason we have seen so much change is that gay. People have just come out and its basically informational identity and you cant unring that bell. So many people have come out in society that people now know and have lived with samesex couples raising children. And its much like dont ask, dont tell. Its easy to demonize gay people when there are no gay people visible in the military because they get kicked out. Once you see living breathing gay people in the military, the military yawned and moved on. Thats what people have done with the marriage context as well. So i just want to come off the individual Decision Just a second. Its a funny argument because if we think about the proximity that sometimes family relations, the closeness in which africanamericans and white africans live edd in the south for most of american history, the idea that proximity would breathe something other than content and a desire for inequality. Its interesting it would operate in this way around Public Opinion for gay men and lesbians who come out and have this identity. Its been true around civil rights. I think its a great point. Unfortunately for me it has everything to do with whether or not they are in your family or not. In that gay context, it used to be the Supreme Court had a montra for groups that were vulnerable in society. Theres a 1980 article in the harvard law review that said its anonymous who are vulnerable. Its not black people its gay people. But i side with the earlier Supreme Court formulation because i think what has happened is that and i think well be talking about this with the Voting Rights act later, if youre able to say i can live my entire life without coming into contact with these individuals, i do not have to rub elbows with them, its a different situation from the kind of the scenario where she comes up to her father and theres a gay person in every extended family so the family has to decide whether or not its going to privilege throw the Family Member under the bus. We have had tragic stories where families have done that. But i think the difference in between the two contexts is why its moved much more quickly which remains stalled is the notion of anonymous, coming out in society of every family in america. A little bit more on the question of law and fairness. 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When i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] couldve had a v8. Two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. This week house chair representative bob goodlot spoke to reporters about the Voting Rights act. In a 2013 decision the Supreme Court invalidated section four ruling to remove a key part of the vri requiring jury dictions with history of discrimination to get preclearance before changes to their voting laws can go into effect. It was not necessary for congress to fix the Voting Rights act. He said to this point, we have not seen a process forward that is necessary it to protect people because we think the Voting Rights act is providing substantial protection in this area right now. He added that the Supreme Court found that instances of discrimination were very old. From its signing until the Supreme Court decision congress had support the law amending it four times, most recently in 2006 when it had nearly unanimous bipartisan support. The congressman even voted for it himself. Now more than 18 months after the courts decision despite bipartisan support for strengthening the Voting Rights act could only make the gop only popular popular, the chair is saying its fine. The panel is back. What do you think . Its all good. Since the decision has the Voting Rights act continue to operate to protect the rights of voters . No and anyone who has been paying attention would know that. Theres either ignorance or they dont want to admit the problem. If you look at whats happened since the decision North Carolina months after the decision passed the most sweep sweeping set of voting restrictions in the country. That law is in effect because the Supreme Court got it into the act. It has been struck down twice as z a poll tax on two different occasions in federal courts. Thats now in effect because of the gutting of the Voting Rights act. Nearly after the states in the country have passed voting restrictions since 2010. Does that sound like a situation in which the Voting Rights act is not needed . In some sense the Voting Rights act is needed now more than ever since 1965. Were in a situation where the support for it is at its lowest level. Congress even though the need for it is at its highest. What youre saying was for the oddest part of the decision. This discourse on the part of the justices that when we look at what has happened since 1965 since the implementation of the act, we can see this enormous improvement in access to the ballot. Therefore, we no longer need this formula. Yet at the same time, also there was language about the problem is that discriminatory accounts just happening in these counties because we can see it in the north. So were going to do away the with the formula altogether. I wonder about the nature of the legal reasoning there. Politics is all up, but is that good legal reasoning . I was a big opponent of that decision but if i were to try to reinstruct what the argument was. The people youre penalizing are the wrong people. We have to treat all the states the same. You cant punish states and tarnish the reputations as being bad actors forever. But the problem, there are several problems. That one is saying that if your kid came home from school and raised my grade, you dont have to go to school anymore. Its not this notion we have made progress. It doesnt mean we have made enough progress. The other issue is the talking point on the other side is congress can fix this. This congress is not going to do anything. The Supreme Court knew that. They knew that at the time they made this. Theres something about throwing this to congress thats disingenuous. You have a new piece that talks specifically about the legacy of king. In part because Popular Culture is thinking about king with the the new selma film. Is that actually part of the problem that if i watch selma, thats not whats happening. There arent dogs. I keep wondering how do we make the point that these voting restrictions are tangible and important even if they dont look like Annie Lee Cooper trying to get registered to vote in alabama. Thats why im writing a book about the history of voting right rights to tell the story of what happened after the marges and engage the history. Chief Justice Roberts said history didnt end in 1965. Voting discrimination didnt end either. Its morphed now. The voter i. D. S, they are not the same. Theres a different variation. But that doesnt mean they are any better. So were in a new form of voter discrimination. They have refined the tactics to try to get them through. That makes it even more important to engage with voter discrimination today. That means the solution couldnt be to get rid of it, it should be to strengthen and modernize it. Not just throw it autoaltogether. Isnt the other problem if it has gone to congress, its gone to elected officials who have an incentive because of how lines are drawn and how people have been elected to seep the electorate relatively small. How do you create an inent sieve to broaden the electorate to the very people who will likely throw them out. Especially given that as a clip showed, they have plausibility deniability. The key point is one that ari made which is to say that section four and five of the provision for coverage, essential ly essentially an attempt to battle the idea. In 1965 the idea was you were wrestling with a shape shifter so section two wasnt enough because whenever you brought a lawsuit, which is incredibly cumbersome took tons of money, tons of time. All the state would do is flip it to something else. So what she was saying is the reason she froze the status quo and required those states to ask permission from the federal government before they change anything about the procedures is because were battling a high bra here. They are. Its just different forms of Voter Suppression that are going on. So section four and five they are more needed right now than ever. Were going back to the situation before 1965. You can only challenge these laws after many many many lawsuits. I was going back and looking at my notes. Before the selma to montgomery march, they filed four lawsuits against. The literacy tests. Still couldnt get it thrown out. You keep challenging this thing in court. Keep trying to get it thrown out. Thats why we needed these states to have to clear with the federal government to stop voting discrimination once and for all. It does seem that the current attorney general is determined to sprint to the finish. Hes doing all kinds of things. What could the doj take aggressive action on in this moment given it looks like section four is not going to get in. They have taken aggression action. They have sued North Carolina. They have sued texas. They have joined lawsuits in wisconsin and ohio. The Supreme Court has not been sympathetic to those arguments. They stayed all these decisions and approve edd the new voting restrictions. This is going to come back to the court. The worries of the makeup of the Current Court are going to further look at the rights act. So they are go to likely go for Marriage Equality at the same time they are gutting the vote. That feels hard to reconcile from a political perspective just because so many of the world of politics are on the same side. I think ari hit it on the head talking about second discrimination discrimination. Under law i can show you a statute that says gay people are not allowed to marry. I cant that says black people are not allowed to vote. 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The ideas inspired onetime aspiring opera singer Coretta Scott king whose husband, the late Martin Luther king, will be celebrated on monday. But we recognize this group of musicians as our foot soldiers of the week. Here to tell us is the organizer of the event, joe chappell. Whats happening in the movement now that requires this . First of all, good morning. One of the reasons we decided to have this concert because as you mentioned, the nonindictments of Michael Brown and eric garner what has happened is that over the last few months a lot of my colleagues weve been very active on social media talking about how there is not very much going on in the Music Community and how we wanted to do something that was formal and that would raise awareness, political awareness. And so that was the primary reason for putting on this concert. The other thing that we wanted to do was we intentionally chose all black men for this performance because we wanted to present a positive image of black men which we find is lacking in media these days. Not only positive but i thought there was something kind of lovely and almost subversive about the idea that the language were using to talk about this in addition to black lives matter is i cant breathe, eric garners final words. And yet breath is such an important part of the kind of work you all are doing here. Absolutely. One of the things music has this power that goes beyond spoken words. And so it makes absolute sense that over the years music has become so connected to political movements. If you look over history, a Movement Really isnt a movement until theres some music, till it has a soundtrack, as it were. And so we are merely taking our place in a long line of musicians over history who have chosen to use their power of communicating with others to effect political change. A movement isnt a movement until it has a soundtrack. Absolutely. I feel like i want that in a tshirt or a hat. A movement isnt a movement until it has a soundtrack. You all were practicing and are going to sing for us a song about freedom. There is something about the word free when it is sung as opposed to just spoken. One of the things i was thinking about today is how timely it is that were doing this particular song because the words the text of the song is oh freedom over me before i be a slave, i be buried in my grave. And in light of recent events in france with Charlie Hebdo, one of the things that the late editor of Charlie Hebdo, stephane stephane said, id rather live on my die on my feet than live on my knees. You guys will now perform for us o freedom reminding us a Movement Must have a soundtrack. O freedom o freedom o freedom over me and before i be a slave ill be buried in my grave and go home to my lord and be free o freedom o freedom o freedom over me and before i be a slave ill be buried in my grave and go home to my lord and be free free there will be singing there will be singing there will be singing over me and before i be a slave ill be buried in my grave and go home to my lord and be free free o freedom o freedom o freedom over me and before i be a slave ill be buried in my grave and go home to my lord and be free go home and be free joe chapell, malcolm, brendan and korlin reminding us that black lives matter. Theyll be performing tomorrow night at 6 00 p. M. At the cathedral of st. John the divine right here in new york city. And that is our show for today. We ask you to come back tomorrow, well talk about the largest transfer in history and a little bit about the oscar nominations. Come on back tomorrow morning, 10 00 a. M. Eastern. 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