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welcome back, everybody. let's get a check on the day ahead before the day ahead. secretary of defense and chairman of joint chiefs will appear before the armed services committee to discuss the plan to defeat isis. trump plaza hotel and casino in atlantic city officially closes its doors today. another casino shuttering there. that will do it for "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ you know, mika, we don't know a lot about the shooting range instructor in arizona who was tragically struck down last month, by a 9-year-old girl. that horrifying incident obviously brought to light the insane practice of some shooting
ranges that actually let very young kids shoot very powerful weapons. but this morning we're getting very glimpse of the very least what kind of a father he was. his own children fought through the grief of losing their dad to reach out to the little girl. >> we wrote this letter. we don't know your name but we're connected by this tragedy. in the news we were just called the family. the 9-year-old girl. the instructor. but we do have a name. our names are ashley, elizabeth, tyler and christopher. >> you're only 9 years old. we think about you. we're worried about you. we pray for you. and we wish you peace. our dad would want the same thing. >> our dad would want you to
know you should move forward with your life. you should not let this define you. you should love yourself and love your family. >> some day we hope we can meet you, hug you and tell you that it's okay. >> that is so beautiful. >> mika, some of those -- one of those children, 11, as young as 11 and, you know, it's our hope as a mom or as a dad that maybe we pass something on to our children after we're gone. this man did. these kids have remarkable character. >> yeah. we spent a lot of the time covering the story talking about the gun issue and the ridiculousness that a gun like that was in that little girl's hands. but this family is an example about how the conversation should move forward. >> it's a great lesson in character, those kids and, you know, mark halperin loves this
quote bill clinton if you see a turtle up on the fence post it didn't get there by accident. if you see children with that much character, that didn't happen by accident. >> definitely. >> that's great parenting and that's a great lesson and what a stark contrast it is to so much -- what beautiful kids. what beautiful kids praying for this young girl and we certainly will be praying for them. and, you know, in stark contrast with all the bad news we see every day and in stark contrast, unfortunately of some parenting decisions, bad parenting decisions by very rich, powerful men who have now brought shame to a multibillion dollar league. >> yet, again. we have wes more in baltimore and john hamm monday at the table. in the nfl adrian peterson is back with the minnesota vikings this morning after being
reinstated. peterson who did not play on sunday after being indicted for abusing his son will face a judge tomorrow. team said after careful deliberation they decided to let the case proceed through the legal system. >> based on the information we have right now and what we know about adrian not only as a person, but what he's also done for this community, we believe he deserves to play while the legal process plays o s out. we feel strongly as an organization this is discipline of a child and whether he went too far in disciplining we feel very strongly that that is the court's decision to make. but we also understand the seriousness of abusing children as well. >> what do you think about that? >> about that last line? >> about the vikings.
letting him come back and play. >> well, there's more. i'm not sure at this point they can afford to make any mistakes. and i wouldn't say they know it looks what they are doing. peterson wrote, i am not a perfect son, i am not a per text husband. i am not a perfect parent but i am without a doubt not a child abuser. i am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. no one can understand the hurt that i feel for my son. >> there's another report from two years ago that was never substantiated. the radisson hotel chain, mika, suspending a limited sponsorship deal with the vikings. >> look at that. a sponsor being responsible and sending a message. radisson said it has a long standing with children and they
take it seriously. i wonder if gatorade, covergirl and all these different companies that sponsor football teams have the same feelings about domestic violence, if they feel women are valued and important. >> about children, about women. >> right. because i'm not seeing that. >> this is what i don't understand, john. i don't understand why the nfl thinks that they live by different standards than the rest of america. you know, a lot of rich and powerful people think that the rules apply to everybody else, don't apply to them. that's why you have people yelling when the police are pulling them over. don't you know who i am. this, that or the other. but here we have the nfl who thinks the rules of the rest of society don't apply to them. if somebody at this network or your network, or in a bank, or in an accounting office or in a
factory was arrested for child abuse and get the mugshot and everything else or was arrested for beating up his pregnant fiancee, they wouldn't be allowed to go to work on monday. >> no they would not. >> but the nfl plays by its own rules. they will say we'll wait until this plays out in the court system. that's not how polite society works. that's not how decent society works. that's not how any businesses in america i know work other than this horrible, horrible institution and that's what they are acting like lately. >> we're, around this table, a lot of sports fans that come in here every day and the country, obviously, loves football and it's become kind of a secular religion. i think i saw something on tv yesterday or someone who pays attention to this said there have been 700 arrests in the nfl
over the course of the last 10 or 15 years. we haven't heard very much about those. some are minor, some are very serious. the nfl has operate by different rules and the circumstances that have happened since the ray rice incident bring with it the vividness of that video to the fore and casts a much harsher light. if it happened in a more stagger way over a few years we wouldn't be focusing on this. this case with the vikings the only thing you need to know is 30-7 which was the patriots/vikings score. as soon as you saw the vikings offense get shut down -- i immediately thought they are going to bring adrian peterson back. they will make an excuse. they will have him on the field for next sunday. >> so covergirl has released a statement.
as a brand that's always supported women and stood for female empowerment covergirl believes domestic violence is completely unacceptable. we developed our nfl program to celebrate 80 million fans. we've encouraged the nfl to take swift action on their path forward to address the issue of domestic violence. >> they are not doing anything. way to go covergirl. let's go to wes moore. wes, so at the end of the day -- i mean i understand the vikings, you know. their outfit stinks. they will figure out how to get a guy who has been arrested twice for child abuse and arrested once to get back on the field as quickly as possible. my question is this, will fans support teams that don't have sexual abusers or child abusers
on their teams? is there not enough good players out there to replace these guys? >> reporter: the simple answer is no. there's a reason these guys are nfl players. they are special athletes. they are elite athletes. it highlights a bigger problem. they are told they are special ever since he were adolescents. when these people were 12 and 13 were better than everybody else. then they went to college and they were better than everybody else. >> let he in underline that fact. bill rowen was on this show. he says he has a program uptown. said he had to kick 9-year-old kids out of the program because when they figure out they are better than everybody else, people start treating them differently and they start abusing other kids. it does start very early, done it? >> absolutely it starts early. so we have to be able to focus,
when we're watching kids, training kids. no one is saying there's a problem aspiring to being a professional athlete. that's fine. as much as you want to train your body you have to train your mind. you have to train your skill and character. this is the problem that happens for a lot of people as they are coming up. where you fall, you're under the national spotlight, international spotlight now. the actions that you thought were tolerable before are not tolerable. and so that's why you're watching a lot of people who fall into certain situations and this is something where the nfl, you know, paths tremendous amount of focus on marketing, focus on ratings, focus on contiguous and endorsements. same type of focus has to be what type of product do you want to put not just on the field but in the community? in the different environments these guys have to exist in. >> no doubt. talking about how these athletes are treated differently, i am a big alabama fan.
as a big alabama fan you have to take notre dame. because they keep -- they always took national championships away from us. i say to notre dame, one day i was on a flight, i was flying with this guy who went to notre dame. we talked. he was in class with tim brown about to win a heisman trophy. what's that like? what do you mean what's that like? how do people treat him? like a student. i kept going. the notre dame culture, just demanded that tim brown be -- i'm sure everybody will have a story about how he was like shooting guns off. i have no evidence of that. but i was so taken by a culture where everybody there said you are no better than anybody else because you can carry a ball over a goal line. and that's taught in so few institutions. >> so, we have a second incident
with adrian peterson which we'll get to. we will put together a timeline because we've talked so much about the nfl. we haven't talked enough about sponsors but we will and we'll listen. but also the prosecutor's office in new jersey, we put together a timeline that really shows exactly what happened with the ray rice incident. it's stunning, actually. some of the data shows he did get special, special care. >> in the prosecutor's office. unbelievable. >> really bad confluence of events where the nfl, prosecutor's office and sponsors and fans are not stepping up. >> the prosecutor's office charged the woman who was brutally assaulted and knocked out for the same thing he got charged with. >> he got put in an anger management program that nonviolent offenders go and people who haven't hit people go into. we'll lay it out four. it's fascinating.
>> did you see the scott brown up in new hampshire? >> yeah. we're going to have that coming up. >> we have news coming out of new hampshire. scott brown was basically over. it was finished about a month ago. >> carpet bagger. >> finished a month ago. he's done. he's dumb. he's this. he's that. all the insults. this morning a new cnn poll that shows it's a dead heat up in new hampshire. barnacle whispered to me the day after obama went golfing after tim foley's murder, he said that internal polls were showing this race was slipping and a couple of days after that he said internal polls showed she lost eight points. we go oh, it's just optics it doesn't matter, why do you guys bug the president so much. just back off. she lost eight points in new
hampshire after that happened. specifically because of that. and he was new hampshire guy obviously too. that's a shock, isn't it? >> it is except we saw polls about a week, ten days ago that saw this race and a lot of people included whether those polls were outliers. the democratic committee is looking at this race and realizing it's tightening up. you think where the last dollars will go on both sides people are predicting -- it's a race where a little bit of money can make a lot of difference. republicans are ready to pour money into this race. this race could be much more contested than we thought it would be a few weeks ago. >> if democrats are spending money in new hampshire trying to hold jean shaheen seat it's tougher to hold louisiana, arkansas, kentucky. you look at the movement that mitch mcconnell showing, look at the move that tom cotton is
showing in arkansas. you are seeing real movement going towards some of these republican candidates. still too early. we're still in mid-september. a long way to go. certainly big movement towards republicans over the past week or two. >> mitch, that's not how you hold a gun. we have that coming up. a category 3 hurricane with wind gusts as high as 100 miles per hour hit the baja, california peninsula, leaving extensive damage behind. bill karins has more. >> major hurricane category 3 one of the strongest hit okay biosan lucas. we have the pictures how devastating the blow was to the resort area. rural sections are trying to recover this morning. thousands of american tourists are trapped in cabo san lucas. the airport had a lot of significant damage. they are hoping the military will get in there and have the airport opened by thursday.
people for three days without a lot of food, water or electricity waiting to get back to the united states and anxious parents waiting for their children to get home also. you can see the devastation of 125 mile-per-hour winds. so this storm will move to the north. a threat with it in arizona and new mexico with flash flooding. the storm is only a tropical storm. but it will bring heavy rain to the desert areas. not often we show a hurricane track into southern arizona but especially around tucson, phoenix and over into areas of el paso, albuquerque, areas at risk. there's a town called weed, california they had a firebreak out late yesterday. 100 homes were destroyed about a quarter of the town, a little town in northern california, the fire wasn't big without right through the downtown area and there's a lot of destruction there. we'll get you those pictures. literally it likes if a tornado went through it took out a
quarter of the town. that's the equivalent of what they are dealing with. still ahead, actress carrie washington will be with us. senator angus king on what he wants to hear from defense secretary hagel. plus a surprising guest, one homeowner found beating the heat in his backyard pool. >> look at that bear in the pool. >> i love him. that's a cute bear. i want one of those. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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♪ all right. let's take a look -- >> did you see this l.a. story this "django" actress arrested. because she was sitting on her white boyfriend's lap? is this selma, alabama, 1966?
unbelievable. >> more happening. >> we'll just check. >> let's go to "the washington post." >> front of the "new york post," shred of evidence, hillary's team sanitize benghazi file says an aide and then the "daily news" leading with a story about adrian peterson in yet a second son who apparently required stitches after he was beaten in a car. >> still looking into that with some text messages that back that up. "the washington post," president obama awarded the medal of honor to two vietnam era soldiers during a ceremony at the white house on monday. obama presented the medal postuhomously to the veteran who covered a bomb with his body. the 79th living recipient of the medal of honor. >> so coming from the "daily mail." air france has cancelled more
than half of its flights across the globe as its pilots began a week long strike. so pilots have been unhappy with the airlines saying that the company is shifting jobs and operations to a low cost carrier to compete with rivals. air france says the new deal will save $1 billion over the next few days. >> a complaint the baguettes were very sale. >> "usa today" clothing retailer -- oh, my gosh i can't believe this story. urban outfitters is in hot water after selling an offensive sweat shirt on its website. the item was marketed as a vintage -- >> who does that. >> vintage kent state sweat shirt but stood out from what appears to be blood stains. a lot of people felt the shirt was in poor taste and direct dmoex the 1970 shootings at kent state in which four students were killed by the ohio national
guard, an incident that really ripped apart this country in the early 1970s. urban outfitters has apologized saying the connection to the shootings was unintentional. that's a lie. they removed the shares from the website. the careers of the people who actually were responsible for putting that up on the website should also be destroyed making the life of four students being gunned down in protest. >> unspeakable. >> that's unspeakable. yes, it's too soon. >> one thing you love to tease me about, my learner's permit. >> did you get it. >> i still haven't taken the driver's test but our next story has to deal with the website that talks about where the rudest drivers are. >> where not to go. >> after surveying 2,000 drivers nationwide, idaho tops this
list. >> idaho people are the best people. d.c. people are unbelievable. >> definitely bad. >> so idaho has got to be nice. number two, they are horrible in d.c. >> some argue new york should be higher as it comes in number three. maybe that's because city dwellers ride the subways. wyoming the fourth and mass rounding out the top five. >> massachusetts is not a surprise. identify driven in a lot of places. new york drivers are not rude drivers. >> they can't move. >> it's the law of the jungle. you cut them off they are like it's cool because i'll cut you off next. it all just sort of flows. i'm dead serious. new yorkers are actually pretty cool when you're driving around. oh, screw it they cut me off and fire a weapon at me. i'll do that to the next guy. you pass it on. >> you take me out so i can practice. >> you don't want to go out riding with mr. road rage. >> i have a licensed driver in
the car with me so i can drive. >> thank you. i don't understand idaho or wyoming. built i do understand d.c. and massachusetts. >> i do. this is from our nbc station in los angeles with temperatures approaching triple digits in california, they got to get in the pool. you just have to. >> a bear of a heat wave. >> so hot out. so this surprising guest just wanted to cool off a little bit. this little black bear hopped into a pool to cool off. this is in sierra madre. he swam for about 15 minutes before leaving the yard. >> i was thinking about getting a german shepherd. i'm getting a bear instead. can you train bears to play with kids. >> no, they are not. they will kill you. just for the record you can't get near them. how adorable is that. >> can i ask you something, mika
>> yes. >> here's the deal. i'm the cool kid that wears the caddie shack pants. what are you doing? >> i'm just getting ready for fall. >> you can't wear by plaid pants. >> i think it's cute we have the same pants on. the question is who wears them better. >> stop. where are your shoes by the way? i don't understand so many things. >> thomas didn't let me wear them. >> look at me. i got my plaid shirt on. ready to rocknroll here. >> all right. >> coming up congressman sean duffy agrees the administration is to blame for the situation in iraq. why it's important to question our leaders at times of war and peace.
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but the traffic is already in play. joining us now from capitol hill for the must read opinion pages editorial director for the national journal, ron fourney. i have shoes now. okay. i'm going to get your piece in just a second. first it seems eugene feels the same way we do. hillary clinton, tell us your vision. judging by her weekend appearance in iowa it looks as if hillary clinton is, indeed, running for president. as far as we're concerned on this show she is until she isn't. now she has to answer one simple question. why? she has said she will make a firm decision probably after the first of the year. but if she has reached the point of dropping broad hints she needs to begin by telling the nation how and why she proposes to lead. >> you know, she could if these were simpler times be blind side have a ted kennedy roger mudd moment when asked why she's running for president and could
sit there and stumble. she's running for president to be president. i mean, if anybody has been given any clues over the past ten years as to a more pressing direct reason i would love to hear them right now because -- how do you write a book that long and actually say nothing? it's a skill. >> i have been asking the question what is the message that she stands for? everything about her tells you this is what she's going to fight for. >> a couple of other things to look for in the op-eds. tim kaine writes a good op-ed why barack obama needs congress's backing in the fight against isis and "the washington post" talks about how america's strategy to defeat isis is underpowered. >> here's the national journal, ron fourney, you write when do was cry. for now count me among the
people generally supportive of obama's approach. u.s. air strikes backing an international coalition of ground troops. i'm glad that he's think through this complex situation but i have my doubts. i worry when obama looks weak and insubsidize, when he takes options off the table publicly, no ground troops and when he seizes upon an option he recently called a fantasy arming syrian rebels. i wonder what happens if the coalition doesn't come together, if the public goes wobbly on its anger towards isis or if god forbid a u.s. soldier is captured in iraq or syria. what sticks with me from 2003? the enduring questioning of government leaders, republicans and democrats, where their waging war or wanting peace. >> i wonder if barack obama supporters say he's speaking softly and carrying a big stick. they said he's going in and
offering humanitarian assistance. i said that very day that's bs in a positive way, he's using this to crack the door open to go after isis and to kill them. he said no ground troops. but, of course, we already have ground troops over there. i'm just wondering whether the president is sort of soft selling a war that he wants no part of but now is actually calling it a war. two days ago john kerry and barack obama were not calling this a war. okay, we're killing people, okay, it's a war. i just wonder whether he's -- whether he's talking to himself and trying to convince himself that he's not engaged in the dirty act of killing people in iraq and syria. >> that's a good question. it's one we should keep an open mind on, i think and not get too entrenched in our positions. it was interesting to me to see yesterday, pew research came out
with an interesting poll that showed 53% of the public supports the president's approach. democrats tend to be afraid that he's going too far. republicans although support him a majority they are afraid he's not going far enough. the american public seems to be ambivalent as i was in that column that we should support the commander-in-chief. this appears to be the right course. but boy this is awfully complicated and does he have his heart in it. is it something that he'll stay on top of? that's something as americans and as journalists who cover this president i don't think we should jump too quickly to the conclusion either way. >> let me bring in wes moore who has been to battle and, wes, you never know what's going to happen once you start firing weapons. by the way, this breaks both ways. we had two bad experiences. but bill kristol was asking
about bosnia. did you support that. no. i didn't think it was worth the risk of american lives. but that went better than we expected and certainly went a lot better than i expected. in this case isis may end up once we start firing, they could end up being a jv team. but we just don't know that and the question is and a lot of people are asking this question, how committed is the president to doing what colin powell said you should do when you go to war and that is win. colin powell said we don't want a fair fight when we go to war. i want to overpower them, kill and capture the enemy and bring our troops home. what do we need to do? >> we want to think critically what that looks like after winning is complete. that's the challenge. that becomes the larger challenge for this. everyone understands that the threat of isis is not something that can just continue on without being addressed or without being attacked properly. there has to be military action.
there's no negotiation that will happen with isis. no treaty that will happen with isis. but when you look at the situation in the region, turkey and their role is extraordinarily important in the complexity of their situation with the kurdish and the kurdish in the north. how the new iraqi government addresses the sunni population which is part of the outgrowth of isis. we have to be clear that it's one thing to go in and as a military officer who has fought overseas and no one does it better than us and that's what we're trained to do. at the same time we have to think what that long term conclusion will look like. that's why i think so much of these other deliberations are facing right now. >> there has to be a political solution on the ground. we can kill and capture. we can take over any capital on the planet in 30 days or less. what happens after that, though, and if they don't want peace in iraq or in syria, then, you
know, you can lead a horse to water -- >> these are mindful decisions. not snap judgments. still ahead one woman's mission to empower an entire nation using bicycles. but first, the last time we heard from defense secretary hagel and joint chiefs chairman dempsey they were telling the country the threat from isis was like nothing that the country has ever faced before. they testify today before the armed services committee and committee members angus king is our next guest. >> an independent from maine. >>
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senator, thanks for being with us. i'll start off by asking you your mindset. are you ready to authorize another war in the middle east? >> well, i think before you even ask that question you got say should we? i think the answer is yes. i think congress has a responsibility here to act and not just stand back and criticize and second guess the president. so, i think we ought to take a look at that. i've been talking to a lot of people about a limited authorization that has some constraints on it and i think that's what we really need to talk about. i think there's a serious risk as ron fournier just said we can't sit around and let isis germinate and becogrow and beco bigger threat. we'll have a hearing with chuck hagel and martin dempsey and there's some questions. >> senator you have lindsey graham coming out saying it's a
fantasy to not think there aren't going to be boots on the ground. and some people already saying americans are already on the ground over there. can you tell the people of maine and the people of america as you sit on the armed services committee this is not going to devolve into a ground war in syria? >> well, there are going to be boots on the ground. the question is whose are they? i don't think they are going to be american. i think the president, the congress, the public -- >> you say you don't think there is. is it possible there will be american boots on the ground? >> whatever you'll see congress pass there will be serious limitations. the real question -- you know, we got the iraqi army and the kurdish army. the real question about whose boots will be on the ground are in syria and whether this effort to train the vetted opposition is going to be sufficient or, you know, how is that going to work? i do think graham is right we shouldn't be kidding the american people that somehow --
there's no such thing as a clean simple war. >> exactly. >> but it always goes in directions you don't expect. >> so, at the end of the day, grade the president's performance for us if you will. you're an independent. obviously you've been a democrat in the past. you've run as an independent and have democrats and republicans looking to you. how is the president doing right now? >> well, i think this is a very tough situation and going slow i think was a good policy. on the other hand, carl levin and i last summer advocated for beginning the serious training and vetting of opposition in syria. we would be a year ahead. i think we were late to getting that one under way. but i think his performance the other night was pretty strong. he laid out a strategy. but there are a couple of crucial pieces that are outside of our control or his control. one is, is it going to be a real coalition or just going to be a fake coalition where the saudis write a check every now and then. that's number one.
number two, what about the government in baghdad? if they don't reach out to the sunnis, i said the other day a body has to channel his inner mandela, he has to have an inclusive government. if he doesn't it's a fool's errand. >> independent senator from maine, angus king. he's hearing what we've been talking about and what a lot of people are talking about. we don't want to fund a coalition if the syrians, if the iraqis, if the saudis, if they want to be free of this terror that poses a greater threat the home than any westerner they have to get involved. if they don't step up to that -- >> i'm also curious. >> drop a couple of bombs, kill a couple of terrorists and stay home. >> very curious to learn more about this syrian army. >> here's the deal. it's nonsense. it's nonsense. you have assad or you have isis.
and it's a brutal question, a brutal choice to make. the question is does assad want to blow up buildings in new york city or washington, d.c.? no he does not. does isis? yes, they do. there you go. we just, unfortunately, described our ugly middle east policy going forward over the next 30 years, picking bad guys that don't want to kill us instead of picking bad guys who do. >> exactly. up next a campaign slogan for the rising terror in iraq. we debate that question with congressman sean duffy and congresswoman donna edwards. a brand new day on "the view." nicolle wallace faced some tough questions from her co-host. really? tougher than ours? we'll bring you that when "morning joe" returns. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates.
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♪ all right. joining us from capitol hill republican representative from wisconsin congressman sean duffy. he's back. he's feisty. and democratic representative from maryland donna edwards. good to have you both. sean duffy, i want to start with you. you have this column in "the national review," in part you say this in 2011 our president jeopardized our homeland when deciding acting on a campaign slogan about troop withdrawal
from iraq was more important than securing the fragile democracy. my question to start things off with a healthy debate wasn't at any time previous president who got us in this mess who was guilty of the original sin that set us on this path? >> listen you're absolutely right, mika. george bush has a lot to blame with breaking iraq. but the bottom line is he passed off a stable iraq to barack obama and i did want to see our troop surge come down in iraq but to think that you have no troops in iraq to help stabilize that democracy, i think that's led a space for isis to rise up, garner strength and start to be a huge threat to the american people and to the region as a whole. >> sean, americans though and a lot of people in your own district wouldn't have supported attacks on syria a year ago. >> you're right. that's different than saying we'll withdraw all of our troops and leave a vacuum in this region. we still have troops in korea
and europe. >> didn't your constituents want to bring troops home from iraq? >> yes, they did but not all of them. when you create a vacuum, joe, you see this kind of isis element rise up. even you mentioned you need a political solution. we need to give them some space to work out the differences in the politics of the region and it's going more than a couple of years. it will take if not many years decades for them to figure it out. if there's no tamped downforce in the region you see radicals rise up. a year ago we could have taken isis out. the president has been unwilling to engage. >> congresswoman, you have a lot of people not just republicans blaming barack obama for what he didn't do a year ago like sean said. we had angus king an independent who caucuses with the democrats saying he and carl levin thought the president should have moved a year ago. hillary clinton also will spend the next year and a half on the campaign trail talking about how
barack obama was wrong. do you agree with other democrats who say barack obama was too late getting into syria and he caused the rise of isis. >> let's start from the first premise is iraq of not stable when the president had to deal with iraq, it was not passed off as a stable government. it was passed off as a government that was isolating kurds, isolating the sunni population, and this is what we have right now where we have this vacuum that's created that allows forces to join with isis and create the instability. so i think what the president is doing is very deliberate. and thoughtful in terms of thinking -- >> was he too deliberate, too thoughtful? >> no. >> was there a vacuum that was created that allowed isis to arise. >> there's no such thing as too deliberate in an environment where we've been too aggressive too quickly and inappropriate action in iraq. what we have is a president who says we have to have the
politics right. we got to get the military and we have to engage the other sunni nations in the region and that's what's happening right now. i think there's no such thing as too deliberate when you're trying to get to a lasting peace. >> sean, let me get back to you. i believe you can be too deliberate and i believe the president in some cases has been too deliberate. at the same time why should more americans go over to fight and die? why should more american taxpayers pay money, foot the bill if we have the saudis and egyptians and everybody else sticking their toe in the water when we're going over there to save their butt. >> when you say the president has been too deliberative. i disagree. he's been playing politics. he's trying to stay out of iraq and syria and only politics that caused him to give that speech a week ago saying we'll have this tepid strategy that will train quote vetted moderates in syria. so tepid and thoughtful not so much. politics absolutely. lack of strategy. the lack of heart the president
has to address isis not just to cause some heart burn on the hill but also made it very difficult for him to build allies in the region. that's why no one is stepping forward and say i'll follow this president into the fight in the region when he doesn't have the heart and passion. when you look at young men and women going into battle you have to do that with great caution. this is not a regional threat. this threat is a threat to the american homeland. >> i just want to tell donna you should come back. i know sean's senate counterparts blocked the paycheck fairness act yesterday. >> now, mika come on. >> can you believe this? >> are you not for equal pay. i'm curious. >> stop this. >> just like the white house they are paying 77%. >> you're turning the on switch on him again. >> the fact is that women are not paid equal to men. it is creating harm to our
economy. we need to pay women from the day that they graduate from college throughout their careers and into their retirements the same as men make. there's no excuse for not doing it. i don't under what republicans have against women being paid the same. >> exactly. we'll leave it right there. thank you very much. donna edwards, sean duffy. what's wrong with it. coming up at the top -- >> they should do it at the white house. >> they should. >> at the top of the hour as the nfl begins to address domestic violence and child abuse against adrian peterson are getting worse. donny deutsch will tell us what the nfl should do. allison london grimes takes a shot at mitch mcconnell in kentucky. he shoots back. plus who wrote last year's song of the summer. robin thicke said he was the mastermind.
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with us. >> if you realize everyone you know some day will die. it's an uplifting song at 7:00 a.m. it's a great song. >> it. donny deutsch is here. holy cow the nfl. i tell you what, man, the nfl, they just -- they just pooped the bed as the kids in the businesslike to say. >> you're staring at me disapprovingly. >> she's learing. this is a study. we had a study a week and a half ago that say women are most attracted to what, 11 days grout. >> ten days. stubble. >> hold on. >> look what he did. >> i'm not in crisis. i have an erick estrada poster in my room. >> nothing.
>> how much effort does it take to keep it trimmed at that level. >> i know you guys like my daily hygiene habits. trim it like this. >> go ahead. the study is absolutely wrong, trust me. >> so, the nfl have just absolutely -- they battered their brand and make tons of money. this is short sighted thinking. moms out there with kids who are making decisions on what their kids are going to do on sunday afternoon are going to make a decision. not to sit there to watch a lot of people that beat up and rape women and beat the hell out of their kids because they are amped up. >> let me tell the first domino. radisson hotel pulled their sponsorship. >> good for them. >> you got to follow the money. >> we're not being cynical. that's when it starts to happen. when women's groups and child advocacy groups start to write letters to advertisers saying hey we don't want to go to your
hotels or drink your soft drinks or drink your beer and that's what causes -- >> it's so transparent. john was watching the patriots/vikings game without peterson in the backfield. they have no offense. he sat there saying okay they are going to find an excuse to put him in there. so a guy that beats up 4-year-olds is going to be allowed back on the field because the vikings lack an offensive punt without peterson. where are the other sponsors? >> where are they? >> you've done this your entire life. what if somebody comes to you we are thinking about investing in the nfl. should we pull out. >> ceo of various companies are coming to their office and on their desk are letters going dear mr. ceo of company x, y and z i have supported your product for 27 years. i'm no longer doing it. he goes i can advertise a lot of places. chief marketing officer take care of this. that's what will start to happen. what i don't understand from a
pr point of view, from a humane point of view, from a common sense point of view, what is the down side of erring coming down hard on these issues before any of the tapes came out. what did goodell have to gain by saying i'm not laying him for a year. i don't understand any logic. >> maybe there are problems with the owners. maybe the owners have their own checkered background. maybe they have sexual harassment charges against them. >> what i found interesting, you guys were teasing "the view" yesterday, our dear friend nicolle wallace is there. i was surprised at the ladies were kind of coming down soft. rosie perez was like floyd meriweather, i like him in the ring. so on and so forth. they were pretty quiet. >> one made the point that's an interesting point and one to be looked into but not an excuse but you got this issue with the concussions already coming up,
these guys pound their heads in every day and go after an attack every day. >> i'm sorry. i can listen to this stupid argument. >> i'm not making an argument. >> i'm not talking about you. the stupid argument that people make that you're repeating, wes moore a lot of people go off to war. carry around guns, carry around rifles, they train you to kill. a good soldier kills. you have to come home, put on a suit and pretend like it never happened. i would guess wes you don't have sympathy for guys who go home and beat up 4-year-old kids or women half their size. >> it's unbelievably cowardice. talent doesn't trump character. you're an nfl owner, the president of an organization, you know, you have someone with extraordinary talent but against
the ethos of everything you stand for, i'm sorry that person might be the most talented person in the world. i just cannot have you with my organization. i can not have you represent my brand. we have to be very, very clear and very stuuccinct about that. >> what i was not an argument or an excuse but it's a game that involves very intense practice and clashing between human beings that happens with audiences cheering and i think people's -- i got to tell you -- >> nobody cheering that night. nobody with pads on. >> football sunday has the highest rate -- >> we got it. >> there's something about the game. >> a guy goes off to war and kills people. >> a lot of people come back from war with post-traumatic stress. a lot of people come back from war completely different. yes, being in attack mode changes you as a person.
having your head beat in every day changes you. >> it's a game. >> eli manning doesn't come home and baept his wife. >> guys out in the field or looking at it as a game. they are killing each other. they are bashing each other's heads in. concussion after concussion, after concussion. that's an issue. it has to be looked at holistically. not an excuse for the behavior. there's a connection. this is a violent game. domestic violence on super bowl sunday we've seen the numbers. why is that? >> start with the drug policy the. some of these guys are amped up. they need a tougher drug policy. stupid that baseball has a tougher drug policy than football. >> the numbers that wait a minute out yesterday one in three women in this country said they have been either kicked, pushed or hit by a man in their lifetime. >> i'm not surprise at all. not just football players.
the good news whenever anything like this happens is, obviously, the spotlight comes on and this is not going away now. >> what happens, mika, is when it happens and you're not a big football star and you don't make millions of dollars you can go a prosecutor and the prosecutor will do their job. >> let me show you exactly what happened. >> what happened here? >> that's another piece of this. we talked about roger goodell probably a little bit over slanted compared to the fact that sponsors are equally as responsible and now what happened with the prosecutor's office in new jersey. here's what happened as they took care of ray rice's case. they say they treated it like any other domestic abuse case. >> is that true, mika. >> star athlete got no special treatment. >> that's comforting. i feel better. >> we want to make sure law enforcement treats people -- >> lady justice blind. >> that's correct. >> football player -- >> let's look at this timeline. on february 15th rays rice and
then if i an jays janay palmer were arrested and charged with simple assault after an incident at an atlantic city casino. four days later tmz released the video dragging an unconscious palmer from the elevator. march 27th the atlantic county prosecutor presents the case to a grand jury which increases rice's charge from simple to aggravated assault in the third degree. if convicted he faces a penalty of three to five years in prison. janay palmer's charges were dropped. in may rice applies for and accepted into a pre-trial intervention program, which allows defendants to avoid formal prosecution and conviction by completing court ordered anger management counselling. as a result, his case never goes to trial and the aggravated assault charge will be dismissed if he completes the 12 month program. just to give you some perspective about that program, the atlantic county prosecutor
has previously stated quote, mr. rice received the same treatment in the court system that any first time offender in a similar circumstance has received, but here are the facts. the data shows that the program available to rice was offered in less than 1% of all domestic violence assault cases over the last four years. in 2013, for example, 15,000 plus domestic violence cases came before new jersey case. of those 3,500 involved some level of assault and of those 30 cases resulted in that pre-trial intervention we were talking about. according to new jersey's pre-trial intervention website the program is used in criminal cases that are victimless offenses and doesn't involve violence. >> so he's in the 1%. >> he's in the 1%. >> and no violence. >> apparently not. >> so when you do that and knock -- >> the fiancee with drew
charges. there was in that case from the victim's point of view a victimless crime. that was unfortunate. >> that's what the american judicial system offers, the best defense money can buy. he's a multimillionaire. his fiancee didn't want to press charges. the prosecutor's office did exactly what hit to do to see this through. of course the lawyers provided the best defense they could. they basically got him out of it. >> i think to donny's point the absence -- the fact his wife ended up where she ended up is important thing in this case. this is a horrible and shocking result but it would be more horrible and shocking if she had been actively prosecuting the case opposed to where she ended up. >> look, i think donny at the beginning of this conversation, you brought up the biggest point we've been talking about now, the radisson hotel chain and now with this other case suspending
and limited sponsorship deal with the vikings. they are acting with their wallets. >> i'm going start staying at the radisson whenever i go some place. >> radisson says it has a long standing commitment to children and it takes the matter seriously. that is surprising that they are the only ones to do such an obvious correct right thing. >> once again, they've suspended peterson. i don't think advertisers at this point would start to bail just like right now rice is out of the game. so let's see what happens. >> but peterson is not suspended. he's playing next week. >> that's up in the air. >> he's playing next weekend. >> there has to be rules put in place when you're charged with certain crimes, maybe all, i would say domestic violence. >> maybe the nfl, mika, they live by the standards that everybody else lives by in america. >> made an announcement that
peterson would be back in. they have the vikings logo and radisson logo. >> not so much. last hour we showed a video reported by the children of the arizona gun instructor who was accidentally killed by a 9-year-old girl. remember that story? well, his children are now sending a heart felt message to their father's shooter. it's a poignant video and it really sends a message to us all. take a look. >> we're charlie's kids and we wrote this letter to the little girl. we don't know your name but we're connected by this tragedy. in the news we're just called family. the 9-year-old girl. the instructor. but we do have names. our names are ashley, elizabeth, tyler and christopher. >> you're only 9 years old. we think about you. we are worried about you.
we pray for you. and we wish you peace. our dad would want the same thing. >> our dad would want to you know you should move forward with your life. you should not let this define you. you should love yourself and love your family. >> some day we hope we can meet you, hug you and tell you that it's okay. >> wow. >> okay. >> to see those children -- >> no words. >> raised so well, obviously. >> still ahead on "morning joe" how one woman is trying to help those who have been so damaged in afghanistan, and she has a fascinating story about how she's using bicycles to bring education and opportunity to women and the girls of afghanistan who have been abused for so long. plus, thousands of californians
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♪ time now to take a look at the morning papers. we'll start from "the washington post." the respiratory virus sending kids to the emergency room has now expanded to new york and alabama. acdorgd the cdc ten states have now confirmed cases of the rare virus that causes breathing problems for cherj. it's worse for those with asthma. there's no vaccine for this particular strain health officials say good hygiene including frequent hand washing is the first line of defense. >> the "los angeles times" 11 major wildfires are burning across california scorching thousands of acres around the
state. the king fire burning outside sacramento has torched over 8,000 acres and son lie 5% contained. it prompted the evacuations of 160 homes and damaged or destroyed up to 100 structures. officials are saying that parch conditions are fueling that inferno. temperatures are not decreasing. >> from the tampa bay times marriott hotels will start leaving envelopes with guests name on them to remind them to tip the maid. part of a joint effort of an advocacy group. it's the way for the hotel chain to increase pay without increasing salaries. >> the philadelphia ininquirer phillies closer, jonathan papelbon has been suspended seven games, fined for the lewd guess terrify that got ejected
from sunday's 5-4 loss. >> michael jackson did that on stage and got millions of dollars. >> the phillies released a statement supporting mlb's decision, apologizing to the fans for papelbon's behavior. then we get this from robin thicke. a doozy of an admission here. a doozy of a defense in this legal battle over the smash hit "blurred lines." thicke and williams are accused of copyright infringement for ripping off marvin gaye's classic "got to give it up." thicke is making contradictory statements now. >> remember what he said last year? >> yes. he told "gq" magazine that we were in the studio and i told him one of my favorite songs of all i'm was marvin gaye's "got to give it up." we should make something like that. something with that groove. we played something and wrote the song in about a half hour
and recorded it. >> he's busted. no way you can get out of that. you just admitted you stole marvin gaye's song. >> depositions obtained by the hollywood reporter have thicke back tracking, i was on vicodin and alcohol when i showed up at the studio. so my, is when we made the song i wanted to be more involved than i actually was by the time, nine months later it became a huge hit and i wanted credit but the reality is that pharrell had the song and wrote almost every single part. >> are you saying he was high during most of his interviews and his drug and alcohol problems is the reason why his wife left him and not his disgusting gesture with miley cyrus on stage. >> he says i was on vicodin and alcohol.
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♪ mika, john has a question for you. >> yes, john. >> this is an important day in history. do you know what happened on this day in 1983. >> arnold schwarzenegger became an american citizen. >> you're right. de. look at that. great day for america. great day for california. great day for the world. all right. very good. you got to remember that because he wasn't on vicodin or alcohol which you're now telling us you said in the break, the great heileman goat scandal of 2013. >> the goat with drew the charges.
>> you don't remember the goat's name. >> billy, bobby. if there was a goat. i don't remember. >> vicodin -- >> with robin thicke. >> the thicke defense. >> it's so thick. >> the vicodin defense. we have the thicke defense. >> covers pretty much everything. >> i'm going to politics now. democrat allison grimes is without a new ad as she tries to cut into republican senator mitch mcconnell lead in the u.s. senate race in kentucky. grimes skeet shooting. she criticizes the senate majority leader and separates herself from president obama. take a look. >> mitch mcconnell wants you to think i'm barack obama. mitch is the same guy who thought duke basketball players were uk. or attacking me on coal while
doing next to nothing while we lost coal jobs. he said it's not his job to bring jobs to kentucky. i'm not barack obama. i disagree with him on guns, coal and the epa. and, michigan, that's not how you hold a gun. >> oh, man. >> do you like that one? >> i love women and guns. you know what she's calling him there. i won't use the word. she's calling him not -- she's calling out his manhood let's put it that way in many way, shapes and forms. i love the end. i got to tell you. >> there's not that many ads that is quite that stark. i'm not barack obama. that's about as clear as you can make it. distancing yourself from the president. >> very calmly and elegantly delivered. not defensive. here's the deal. this is me. this is him. by the way, you have no idea how to shoot a gun. >> she's got to start distancing
herself from fortunate. you look at the numbers coming out. the president in a lot of these states is in the low 30s, high 20s. if you're going distance yourself from the president and you're a democrat in these states now is the time to do it. the president would want you to do that because he would rather have democrat senators than republican senators. >> mitch mcconnell's people -- >> mitch is up by eight points right now. >> i'm serious. great advice. she should hold that gun, be a symbol of her candidacy like every event make fun of the way he holds it. make that as a visual. i'm telling you there's magic in that. >> she's going to need some if she wins the race. >> in new hampshire scott brown in a dead heat with incumbent democratic senator jean shaheen. cnn independent research poll has voters tied at 48%.
eight in ten said they won't change their minds. voters there hold a low opinion of the president which is 38% approval rating. >> john heileman, you follow politics around the clock. i had a couple of republicans on set two weeks ago saying there's going be a big republican sweep. i say it's too early. i still say it's too early. but obviously there's momentum breaking in a lot of these races towards republicans. why? what's going on? can that be stemmed? >> there's some momentum breaking in the republican direction. some of the claims are a little overstated. there's no doubt we had two surprise races, this new hampshire race which surprised a lot of people. the kansas race is obviously now a possible -- >> exactly. let's talk about as you go west in kansas, i talked to some republicans out there concerned about pat brown losing, concerned about sam brownback losing the governorship. that's a serious threat in a
state that's fully republican and colorado, the democrats are consolidating gains there. it's not all breaking in one direction. >> no. colorado, iowa going to be very close race. alaska close race. those races in the south, the arkansas race, the louisiana race, the north carolina race is still very close. arkansas and louisiana race looking very strong for republicans. >> what about the georgia race where you have a strong democratic candidate. >> the problem for democrats there s-again, this brown race actually directly impacts that race. democrats spent a lot of money, republicans have spent a lot of money. has you look how to marshall resources democrats have to go and contest new hampshire which it looks like they will have to and spend money in that boston media market. not money to go fight in georgia and they need money for michele nunn. >> every dollar you're spending in boston you're not spending in atlanta market. zero sum game.
>> same thing for republicans in michigan who won't have money to spend in michigan. they will spend it in new hampshire. >> some governor races whether you're talking about scott walker in wisconsin, michigan, some midwest races that were supposed to be breezes for republicans that are suddenly breaking the democrats way. it's going to be a lot of tough races in a lot of regions. >> that's why it doesn't look like an obvious wave. >> not yet. >> the picture is too complicated. >> when recognizes say the wave starting. wave goes coast to coast. we're not there yet. a lot of different stories. >> want to get to one must read. this is democratic virginia senator tim kaine writing in the "new york times," obama must get congress' backing for the fight against isis. he says this our recent history has been characterized by executive overreach and legislative abdication in the initiation of military action. the current crisis gives us an opportunity to restore the proper balance between the
branches, when we engaging military action, we ask service members to risk their lives. asking congress to debate and vote on this issue is a small sacrifice in comparison. to say the least i would agree. >> yeah. i think the president should get as much from congress as humanly possible and bring everybody in and make this america's war. you look back over the past two presidency, the big mistake in george w. bush's is not reaching out further to democrats even though more democrats supported the second iraq war than the first iraq war. it was still sort of us against them thing. and i would say the same thing about barack obama. he should have done more and i know republicans on the iraq war will complain i say this, democrats on health care will complain about this. but the president should have gone to the republicans and should have made health care a bipartisan effort and just sat there and kept pounding away. >> how is he going to do that?
>> you're a liberal. >> i'm a moderate. >> you're a liberal. >> i'm a moderate. i'm against the death penalty. i'm a fiscal conservative. >> don't take over our segment. >> i'm debating. >> i don't care what your positions are. >> that's nice. you have a guest on you don't care about my position. >> you want to go through your positions on stubble. >> you're the moderator >> you're a liberal. >> explain to me how the republicans would have worked with him on health care? >> you have to have a president that bends over backwards and fights. republicans could say the same thing about my claim that george w. bush should have done more to bend over backwards and go to democrats who were saying he hated the constitution and he was hitler and that he was all of these other things and he was illegitimate. and by the way, i'm only saying
do this for their own sake. >> in this instance i agree with you. >> this needs to be america's war. i agree. the health care plan needs america's health care plan. >> could have been. >> could have been. president was cutting deals with big pharma and hospitals. now you don't want me to finish my sentence because i'm making a point because the "new york times" reported the white house was cutting these secret deals. courthouse was scared of its own shadow wouldn't say this is what we stand for and called paul ryan over to the white house and then insulted paul ryan. this president, if i have to debate six years later about whether this president has adequately engaged washington, d.c. six years in, then there's no reason for us not have this debate. >> is there any way he could have vested the republicans and gotten them all on board on health care. >> i believe the president could not have done a bipartisan bill to get universal coverage.
what company have done is get a universal bill to do less. once you're at the point to get universal coverage you're not going to get bipartisan support. there was an opening for a bipartisan deal for less which rob wanted to do. bipartisanship meant more than universal coverage he could have gotten. >> what don't you get about the president winning two presidential elections about the aca. >> he ran on obamacare. >> he did. >> he criticized hillary clinton for doing what he did. he ran on hope and change. it was a campaign void of substance. he attacked hillary clinton for promising to do what he did once he started this. >> universal health care not a central point. >> he attacked hillary clinton for doing, for promising to do what he ended up doing.
>> hope and change. >> mitt romney had done in massachusetts and mitt romney ran way from it as far as possible. >> are you saying -- >> there are campaign goals and then talking about running ads on. >> i can just say this. if i'm barack obama i would not have bet my entire presidency on health care, based on what he promised. you know what he promised. he promised us he would change the culture of washington. he promised he would bring people together. he promised he didn't see a blue state america or red state america. he brought a united states of america. he got a lot of republicans like me with tears in our eye maybe we got somebody that will move us past this. didn't happen. >> republicans have no guilt in this. >> i didn't say that. why do you have to say that? you know that's not true. >> write sit watching the last six years and i would have done a lot of things different but one thing i see is a completely,
completely nonmoving republican party who is hell bent on just shutting him down no matter what he wanted to do. >> we look back at bill clinton and the reason why bill clinton was able to do what bill clinton did and barack obama wasn't because bill clinton made republicans pay every time we were obstinate and overreached. bill clinton was always on the move. he was always looking for the next deal. you could impeach him in the morning and in the afternoon he would be talking about long term health care. clinton won. he beat the hell out of us because, you know what? he knew how to play the game. >> but didn't get universal health care and 40 years now when aca is part of the fabric of american life it is. >> then it's worth it. >> still ahead -- >> i say we go jew gentile outside. >> look at me behind the 7/eleven.
>> straight out of fight club. >> ken follett will welcome back us. she gave up her career, home and everything she knew to bring change to war-torn afghanistan. we'll introduce the woman who national geographic named their national geographic named their adventurer of the year.
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>> here with us now founder and president of mountain to mountain with number two, a nonprofit focused on helping women in regions of conflict, shannon galpin out with mr. memoir, mountain to mountain, a journey for activism for women of afghanistan. i'll read one line out of your book. it's beautifully written. incredible stories. you say afghanistan is a country that begs for understanding and for compassion. what are we missing?
>> i think that afghanistan is a country filled with very real people living their lives just like everyone else in the world it's just that they are doing it against a backdrop of oppression, you know, 40 years of conflict, and violence. >> so you dropped everything in your life and we'll get to that in a moment. but literally just left house and home and went to afghanistan. you created mountain to mountain, which in some capacity uses the mountain bike to help women make the -- >> it's symbol. >> do the math for me. >> it was never the original intent. i happened to live in colorado and i'm a mountain biker. it's a beautiful country. i wanted to explore in a different way and so i was there working in women's prisons and with girls education. i started testing this kind of last taboo in afghanistan which is girls can't ride bikes. one of the few countries in the world because it represents freedom of mobility and freedom.
>> you say when the girls get on the bike it's like they are taking part in a revolution. >> they are. they are moving. >> raging against at a very oppressive environment. >> exactly on two wheels. >> let's get to what gets you there because you're helping these women sort of fight back or at least survive oppression by giving them a sense of freedom. why did you feel the need to do this? and in such a severe way. you left everything behind to jump into this new life. >> yeah. it was definitely a 180 degree turn. it was really rooted in the fact that when i was 18 i was subjected to gender violence, i was raped and nearly kill and 12 years only my only sibling my sister was also attacked on a college campus. i was pregnant with my daughter at the time. and i realized that the world needed to change and i needed to be a part of that change for women >> you're pregnant. it's nine years ago i guess when
this happened. how did you decide to do the math to do exactly what you did given the fact you were having a daughter and you had a life in front of you. >> i didn't choose to go afghanistan until she was about 2. it was a decision that i wanted to work in the worst place in the world to be a woman where women did not have a voice because i would hope if the tables were turned someone would do the same if it was my daughter. >> going to afghanistan and you talk about this your status as a foreign women you're treated as a male, honorary male than a woman born in afghanistan. >> it was a fascinating kind of hybrid you find yourself embodying you're treated like a man even though they realize you're a woman. i have full access to men who are decision makers in most cases especially in rural communities where women don't have a voice. as a woman i have full access to the women and get the unfiltered
viewpoint from them without worrying it's changing because they are speaking with a man. in urban communities where i work with women who are members of parliament, who are leaders and becoming the next generation of female activists and parliamentarians in their country. those women are setting the stage for the rest of the country. but the majority of the country is rural and they need a proxy voice in some respects. >> the book is "mountain to mountain." thank you so much. great to meet you. great, great work. coming up in our next hour actress carrie washington is using her star power to bring attention to an issue that impacts millions of women each year. she joins us on september as well. up next six years and 3,000 pages later ken follett closes a door on his century trilogy. he joins us with the final installment of "edge of
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ken follett is joining us. he's out with a third installment of his trilogy "edge of eternity" and it's great to have you with us. >> thank you. whatever ken is, it is rich. 150 million sold worldwide. >> that's a lot. >> but a lot of trees. >> it's a lot. yeah, and a lot of trees aren't being sacrificed for books these days. you're still doing extraordinarily good job. what is it about this trilogy that has captured the attention of the public so much, do you think? >> it's two things. the 20th century is the most dramatic century in the human race. >> unbelievable. >> we had the first world war, which was the most terrible human beings had ever seen. then the second, which was worse. and then we had the cold war, which if had turned into the hot war would have wiped us all out. and on top of that, it's our story. everyone around this table was born in the 20th century, and so was our parents. so the history is about what we
did. >> the most blood thithirsty century. the most dramatic century. but you also talk about a common -- >> in the history from my characters to get involved in ended up as a struggle for freedom, as you say. beginning in the -- in 1914, two of my characters are suffering. so they're campaigning for votes for women. an idea which at the time was laughed at. they were mocked. they were beaten up and thrown in jail. hey, what about us? we're equal. >> is to 20th century is the most extraordinary in history.
the 1960s is the most overtalked about. how do you find something new to say about a decade chewed over into the '60s? >> well, what you do with in a historical novel is is don't just tell a history. you invent fictional characters that the readers like. you get the readers to share their hopes and fears, and then you put the fictional characters in that situation. so instead of analysis, a history book, what you have is a drama. >> and you actually create characters that allow them to put themselveses in the middle of this extraordinary decade. right? >> that's right. so for example in the cuban missile crisis, i have a young man who works for bobby kennedy. naturally he's at all those meetings, minute by minute in the white house when they were figuring out, the brothers were trying to figure out what was happening. and the same in the kremlin. i have a young aid who is in all those meetings. so you see minute by minute how
those decisions were made and the pressures on people and how their pride worked and the intervention of the military. you see all that coming together. if you do it with fictional characters, you get emotional drama. >> what is astounding, you sit and look at this, and where does it start up here? give me the germ. give me the embryo. >> he wants to know how you do that. >> yes, well better said. how do you do what you do? it's just astounding. >> my mother was imaginative. she told me stories all the time. she sang all the time. nursery rhymes. and i was the first child in the family. so right from a young age i h had -- maybe i inherited her imagination. but if not, i have learned it. >> isn't it amazing that it all
goes back to story tell sing? and i always think of reading to my kids and now the grandchildren and the look on the face that the mouth falls open and the eyes get that sort of thousand-year odd look and you know they're lost in a story. and as soon as you finish the little book that you're reading to say a 3-year-old, you know, what they say we did they want another. that's something that an iphone, an ipad a laptop will never replace. >> do you do dramatic readings on the side? >> i try to be a little dramati dramatic. >> i need you to come and do a dramatic reading on our morning show. you have incredible delivery. that's the guy, right there. the book is "edge of eternity." ken follett thank you so much. the minnesota vikings explain their decision to explain adrian
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what he's also done for this community, we believe he deserves to play while the legal process plays out. we feel strongly as an organization that this is disciplining a child. and whether it's an abusive situation or not or whether he went too far disciplining, we feel very strongly that is the court's decision to make. but we also understand the seriousness of, you know, abusing children as well. >> welcome back. >> that was sort of an afterthought. wasn't it? we also understand it's kind of bad when you abuse kids. >> i think so. it seemed -- gosh. no, we're not. can we get a shot? they are so tone deaf it's amazing. this guy. can we show this picture again? it's just like he said last sunday, he saw the vikings offensive attack was weak. he said, okay, we know they're going to make an abuse to bring adrian peterson back.
what zid we learn more? we actually have the raddison coming out and saying we care about kids. and we're not going to sit here and turn the other cheek. >> right. >> this press conference has given and here's the image. is radisson looking at that picture right there? if radisson is a ceo and saying this is not an image -- i don't want my company's name behind that man or anything else. >> here's my question. >> first of all, he's happy about that. we all believe in different ways of raising our children. there are people in the country that say a pat on the fanny. i was raised that way. >> my parents did it all the time. with a belt. you know. >> what is the argument that it's okay to take a stick to a young boy's scrotum and break skin?
where -- does that -- are there any arguments that can continue in that direction? >> no, here's the thing. my grand mom who was a saint, would occasionally get a switch. >> very thin. but you just kind of surprise you and everything. and that would happen, and you only -- it only happened one time. but there's a big difference between an 82-year-old 5'4" granny from dalton, georgia, doing that. and a huge runningback with a big stick going after a kid on the legs? i'm 6'4". i'm big. and i always kept that in mind. if you're big, you have to understand the impression. that's why you get down to the floor and talk to my kids. that's not acceptable.
i hear what charles barkley said. especially if you're that big. it's not acceptable to leave open wounds on your kid or apparently, allegedly we have another incident where he hit another 4-year-old, who had to get stitches over his eye. there's a serious problem. and you wonder where children protective services are. >> a lot of kids in our generation had the belt. not have many have a week or ten days later still have bruises or welts or visible injuries. >> it's a different thing. >> just to encapsulate the very latest with adrian peterson, he did release a statement. he said i'm not a perfect son. i'm not a perfect husband. i'm not a perfect parent. but i am without a doubt not a child abuser and someone who disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him injury. no one can understand the hurt that i feel for my son. so there you go. >> that's one of his.
he has another son who apparently -- >> so his lawyer is pushing back to this. against new allegations of a second incident of abuse involving one of his other sons. the texas station khou claims his obtained text messages and photos between peterson and the mother of his son. >> they show a head wound to a boy identified as adrian peterson's 4-year-old son. a wound that weeks later left a scar above his right eye. it happened while the boy who lives out of state was visiting peterson at his gated home. the i-team obtained this string of messages in which the mother asks what happened to his head. he says hit his head on the car seat. she said, how did this happen? in the car? >> he says yes. she asks why. the mother asks what did you hit him with. he never answers directly but
instead says be still and take your whooping. he would have saved the scar. he's all right. >> what else do we need to know? >> that is out there and the vikings are playing him. >> the fact that the vikings are playing him on sunday is sick. >> and if the money grubbing beasts in the nfl don't give a damn about women being beaten up, can they not pretend that they care about 4-year-old children? why are the vikings, mika, even thinking about playing this guy? this guy should be banned from the nfl for a year. >> i think that's why the news conference sort of fell flat. here's peterson's attorney, by the way, released this statement. the allegation of another investigation into adrian peterson is simply not true. this is not a new allegation. it's one that is uns
unsubstantiated. an adult witness insists he did nothing inappropriately with his son. it should be noted nbc has not con if i wered that claims made in the khou report according to "the new york times." the mother filed a report with child protective services. but no action was taken. the vikings sald they were already aware of the incident. >> so what does child protective services in the state of texas do now? >> they go back and have to investigate again, the kid has stitches over his eyes. >> what i don't get -- i'm going back to the vikings for a second. they're not going to lose a dollar by him not playing. it's revenue share. >> that's all right. that's all right. they lose a couple games early in the season. the playoff chances dim. they don't make the playoff. they lose millions. millions. many, many millions. >> if they don't make the playoffs. >> and that's what it's all about.
>> it's one game. i have a feeling between noup and sunday things will change. it's a decent ownership in the will family. and i think they'll step forward and do the right thing here. innocent until proven guilty. you still don't need the showcase. and i'm going to say we had the carolina panthers on saying he was not indifferent. they actually made their franchise players sit on the bench on sunday. a lot of people said oh, it's pathetic. i don't care when it was. i'm good with death bed conversions. if it sends a necessary s&l. i'm good with it. if the vik gds decide we can't put up with this heat, i'm great. you know. i said the ravens owner did a great job after he cloned up his act. yeah, but he screwed up. we'll take it by conversion. anything that protects children.
anything that protects women and sends a message to other nfl players and sends a message to college players and high school players. you want to talk about abuse? you don't have to go to the nfl to see football players see women. you can look at high schools across america. it happens there every day. a message has to be sent from the top down. it needs to be sent from the vikings, from the nfl, and it needs to be sent from the san francisco 49ers whose owner acted in a shameful way. a shameful way that shames a city last long prided itself in being progressive and open minded. by allowing a man who was arrested for beating up his pregnant wife and left her with bruises and saying, hey, what's the big deal? he gets to play. >> and the sponsors get to give them money. >> things are going to change. you're going to see the results. >> i hope so. i hope it starts in minnesota. minnesota people come on.
women buy products. at the end of the day. >> i don't see many people putting up with this. >> all right, we're going to switch gears and get to the other headlines of the day. if first phase of the united states expanded campaign to the islamic militants is now under way. officials say they successfully targeted an isis fighting position near baghdad. the u.s. has now carried out more than 160 air strikes against islamic state militants in iraq. meanwhile, lawmakers appear willing to give president obama short-term approval to arm moderate syrian rebels to fight members of isis there. however a full debate would not happen until after the midterm elections. but arming members of the syrian opposition is showcasing a split in a g.o.p. republican senator rands paul is opposeded to the plan, drawing strong criticism from his colleague sfraenator john mccai >> some of the so-called
moderate rebels have signed a cease-fire with isis. so reallyis assad and they don't care what isis does. isis simply takes it from them or we mistakenly give it to the radicals. so the intervention in syria has kreaded a safe haven for isis and has made our problem much more difficult. >> has rand paul ever bin to syria? has he ever met with i sis? >> i'm not trying to cause a fight. >> we're going to have a fight because it's false. this is the same rand paul that said we didn't want anything to do with anything to do in the middle east, by the way. i don't want to get in a fight with him at all. but it's not true. i know these people. i'm in contact with them all the time. he is not. >> here with us now from capitol hill, republican senator from
indiana and member of select intelligence committee, senator dan coats. very good to have you here. >> you're here to tell us whether arming the faction in syria is a fantasy, as barack obama said a month ago, or whether it's a strategic opportunity, as barack obama said last week. >> well, without going into classified detaildetails, i can you it's my own personal belief just arming the syrian rebels will not solve the problem. nor will simply an air campaign. first of all, i support the president in defining isis as a threat that we have to address. and secondly, we have to cross the border into syria to address them. can't give them safe havens. and the resolve to do that is yet to be demonstrated. #. >> does that means boots on the ground. air strikes are not enough. and we don't know where the moderates are.
does that mean the u.s. will have to put more boots on the ground? >> the question is whose boots will they be? will they be boots of supporting nations? i have called for the fact that unless the moderate states in the middle east join us, after all, they're in the crosshairs, too, from isis, we're not going to prevail. look what we have done over a decade in iraq and with nearly half a million troops and not able to succeed there. so there's got to be a lot more than 5,000 trained syrian troops to achieve the goal that the president has decided. and i think the goal we should all support. >> you've made your position clear. give us an idea of where you stand. >> well, we're working through this. we clearly want to support the president because we support the goal he has arkansticulated. but what is the strategy that will succeed in accomplishing
that? and we have yet to see the clarity of it. we know secretary kerry is running around the the middle east trying to line up support from the moderate arabs. and as i've said, they've got a lot at stake here. they have yet to give us a concrete numbers in terms of what they will do and put those boots on the ground that are needed. we saw a strike today in southwest baghdad. that means isis is south of where a lot of people thought they were. in trying to encircle baghdad. this is a serious situation that's going to require a lot of effort to succeed here. >> okay. >> member of the select intelligence committee, senator dan coats, thank you very much for being on this morning. still ahead on "morning joe." golden globe and emmy nominated actress kerry washington. >> you're not allowed on the set. >> i love her. she's great. >> i insist on being here. >> you're going to be here. >> i insist. >> but first -- >> i love her in a professional
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want to take a look at the morning papers. we start from the hill. the white house says that it favors cops wearing camera. we've been talking about this for some time, mika, that we want cops to have cameras all over america. now the president is saying the same thing. >> that's fantastic. >> isn't that something? >> yea. and you were right behind all that. >> yeah. it will be interesting to see how it plays out, though, because there is the interest of the people of what they're being questioned about. and also the safety of the police officer. and then how those two stories match up. and people say there's two sides to every story. really, there's three now. there's the police side for people they talk to and the video will tell the truth. >> yeah, so you were trying to read that. and someone having an l.e.d. flash back. how about this? >> oh, the worries are in the
box for me. someone likes me back there. a michigan funeral home is offering drive-thru viewing. they have installed a window that displays the body inside the building. curtains inside the window automatically open when a car pulls up. mourners get three minutes to view the body. three. they say the drive-thru allows people who might not otherwise visit the chapel to honor the deceased. >> so we have this. this is far ahead of the time pensacola, florida is. if i'm not mistaken, i think former commissioner willy jr. had a funeral home, if i'm not mistaken where you have drive- >> you don't have that in pensacola. >> yes, we did have that. i don't think we have it anymore. >> the old bank teller things where you send the check up and they shoot them up with the casket. >> and he just plops. >> peemt are trying to be creative. >> what has time for a viewing? >> and all the banks go waste
now. think about it. >> who has time? let's go to l.a. times. 11 major wildfires are burning across california. scorching thousands of acres across the state. >> officials say the king fire outside sacramento has torched 8,000 acres and is only 5% contained. let's go to bill karins with more on the severe conditions. >> yesterday it was unrelenting. about 90 as far as portland, oregon. they are still baking in summer heat. northern california along interstate 5. and right now this morning about a quarter of the town is gone. 100 homes are either totally burned to the ground or damaged so badly that residents can't move back in. it is going to be hot there again throughout the next two to three days. that's not ending. and the other headline was that
august, even though it was cool here. it was the warmest august ever recorded going back to 1880. those records go back to 1880. the big reason why is antarctica was very, very warm. the and the other story yesterday. the pictures autoautoof cabo. these people have a lot of work ahead of them. people can't get in to start doing the rescue. there's 30,000 estimated u.s. tourists stuck there. they have to sate and wait for the airport to get opened up. >> there was a direct hit to the peninsula. "the new york times" president obama heads to atlanta today where he's expected to announce a major u.s. response to the ebola outbreak in west africa. the president will outline plans
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welcome back to "morning joe." the world health organization now says more than 2,400 people have been killed by the ebola outbreak, and a number of those infected have doubled in the last month. joining us now, lisa monaco. thank you for being on, lisa. what's the plan since this appears to be growing? and not going away.
>> well, what you'll hear today from the president is a significant increased and ramped up united states response. the president has said from the beginning that this is a top national security priority. we are seeing the effects of a devastating and exponentially growing outbreak in west africa. and the goal here is to surge american expertise, including our military logistics and commanding control expertise to try to control the outbreak at its source in west africa. >> what's the president going to be saying today? >> i'm sorry? >> what is the president -- what's the message the president is going to deliver today? >> well, he's going to speak to the experts who have been working on this from the beginning, from march, when we first saw the cases emerge. he's going to thank them very much for their tireless work, and he's going to talk about how american leadership.
including the expertise of our military and pub lib health professionals are what will contribute to getting this under control, working with an international coalition from the united nations, and from the world health organization, as you mentioned. >> all right. we'll hear more on that later. frank gore edited the anthology of essays from the archives. 100 years of politics in america. >> it's a shame you had nothing to sort through, other than essays by virginia wolfe, george orr well, graham green, phillip roth. on and on and on. faulkner, ellison. >> you know -- painfully i left some of those guys on the cutting room floor. >> did you really? >> yeah.
>> just couldn't make it, could he? >> do you have a favorite? >> well, i love the first essay in book, which is by rebecca west. when she was 22 years old. it was published in the the first edition of the magazine and set the tone for all the stuff that was to come. >> at 22? >> at age 22. one of the hilarious facts about the essay is it's an attack on the writer h.g. wells who just two months be before the piece appeared gave birth to his son -- >> and then she turned on him like that. >> what was the story they would have gotten in? >> they were things i couldn't -- i couldn't convince the editors to give me more space for. >> brutal. you would think in the world of
electronic books you would be able to do more. >> we tried to put it together in a way in which it added up to something that was more than the sum of the parts. for 100 years the magazine has played a central role on the level of ideas and the context for ideas and liberalism. >> can you explain to me exactly what the editors in the republic were seeking in the first world war when they demanded peace without victory? not a great bumper sticker. >> it's not. although woodrow wilson stole the line. >> why did you guys want peace without victory? >> they viewed, as it turned out rather correctly that if one side was the overwhelming victor and able to set the terms if r the piece, and they tried to
crush their opponents, their opponents would sit festering and we would never escape the cycle of world war. >> let's get one must-read in. i have mark theissen from the "washington post." has he written anything for the new republic yet? >> not yet. >> obama seems more concerned with distinguishing what he is doing in iraq from what the george w. bush administration did than he is doing -- than he is with following a war strategy that will defeat the enemy. until a few days ago both obama and secretary of state john kerry publicly denied that we're at war with the united states. as if calling this something than war would make it less of a war. >> >> we haven't won in afghanistan. we didn't win in iraq the second time. we didn't win in iraq the first time. we didn't win in vietnam.
we didn't win in korea. >> oh, snap! i went there. >> so 65 years of post war horrors all reduced down to a single cutting jab. what's different this time? >> well, first of all -- i mean, there are two things. one, the truism on the part of these to chide obama for adopting a policy that were clambering for. second of all, i would say the campaign against al qaeda for the most part has been a success. al qaeda still exists. we've not defeated them in the way the president talks about defeating isis. but al qaeda has been effectively contained, which is a combination of both effective policing strategies here, but also the strategy that we deployed in afghanistan and in somalia and yemen. >> it's very, very aggressive
anti-the terror tactics that a lot of people on the left and the far right were against. >> do you feel -- just to tie this discussion into the book. the magazine as a huge voice in foreign policy and national security and most recently was one of the leading voice f of liberal interventionism in the past conflicts. do you feel that you have the same at the moment as you head into a new conflict? so the beach head being the magazine? we published an influential essay a couple mons ago about how super powers can't retire. he's not exactly a liberal, per se. but he's somebody who liberals have to reckon with. and one of the things the magazine has tried to do overtime is duke it out within our own pages. so you have two sides. >> do you support intervention?
>> you know, i do, yeah. i'm not -- i don't support it in a wild-eyed neo conservative george bush sort of way. i don't support it in every instance. >> oh stop it. you're just a side of john mccain and you know it. >> i support what obama is doing against isis. >> you guys are giving voices to a lot of writers. but the magazine has often had a institutional position. do you feel like that that on this? >> no. one of the things that we have made over time is that we've elevate elevated the debating element. we've downplayed the editorializing element. and we abandoned having an official editorial line a few years ago. so we just don't do that a few years ago. >> you just don't stand for
anything. >> 100 years of orr well and whitman and you're going to accuse me. >> the book is insurrections of the mind. 100 years of politics and culture in america. it's fantastic. >> frank, it's great to have you here. come back. >> still ahead, a bipolar recovering alcoholic. former golf pro turned tv host. david feherty will be here. you know her from scandal. kerry washington joins us next. (vo) get ready!
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this week. it's based on what's happening in the country and homes all over. >> so talk about this partnership? >> well, when the all state foundation learned one in four women is affected by domestic violence, we wanted to do something, and we also knew that mill len yals are especially affected. so we built our campaign around pop culture and one of the most popular stars today. >> the top of the most. >> it's been a great partnership because i have worked with an organization that has worked to end violence against women for many, many years. so this is an issue that's been close to my heart. i had never dealt with or thought about this in this way financial abuse. and to learn that 98% of domestic violence cases involve financial abuse. >> and control. it's a wi of control. >> controlling money. jeopardizing employment. destroying credit. running up debt. all of those things make it much
more difficult for women to leave. >> and this is an avenue in which they can have some power. they're never going to have the physical power. >> you talk about standing up for what you deserve. when a woman is not able to do that, she's not able to protect her family. >> we've reached 400,000 women with our services. so working with kerry is one way we're really trying to -- >> it's a really, really smart idea. i'm wondering how you view, your gut, your instinct watching this ray rice stuff play out and all these other cases, do you think it's been overblown, or do you think we're on track? >> in terms of what? >> we've all been hammering the nfl and sponsors for not taking the issue seriously. >> i think we need to take it
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call them freaks. >> i call them freaks in the best way, kerry. i'm talking people that wake up on the west coast at 3:00 in the morning to watch us. i love you. >> yes. >> what is going on? >>. >> so what's going to happen? >> i can't tell you where the plane is going. but when we return you will know where the plane went. it's really good. it's better than you think. >> oh, big tease. >> there's a trailer. we see the bik of her head. >> it's like vacation hair. it's good. >> will you tell me? >> no! >> just tell me. please. a little? a little? >> maybe if you donate enough to purple purse. >> how much will you donate to purple purse? >> i will in this segment. >> the importance of -- >> hold on. hold on. i'll match what you do.
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joining us now, david feherty. "the new york times" has called him a cross between oprah and johnny carson.
and he came on the air and said his father gave him advice when he was young. son, the best way to make yourself look brilliant is to surround himself by fancy colleagues. your father would be proud of you this morning. you're in good shape. but, but this has been a rough day for you. you get out the door and a pigeon crapped on you by 4:30. >> i think it was a vulture or something. which you seldom see in new york city. thousand can you get lost in manhattan? >> you got lost. >> i walked past my own hotel twice, as it turned out. it's like something from the shire. like a hobbit hole. >> i didn't know they had one of those. >> 57th and shire. it's like platform 9.75. and they have vultures there and this is as good as i can do. and so the cup is coming um
americans who don't sit and watch golf week in and week out, they sit and cheer, usa, usa. # and you're blowing it out this year. just countless hours. >> a lot of coverage. i'll be doing coverage in the golf channel with watkins and with david duval and justin leonard. we've all played ryder cup. and it will be a simulcast. and i love to heckle. >> how do you heckle? >> he's the best at at it. >> i've been hecklee and heckler. >> well, when with you sit at home and watch sports and listen to the announcers. and people do it at home.
you get to do it on the air. >> you have to clean up some words. >> i would have. >> could be social media. and you know, a ticker along the bottom, which i'm a little worried about. i don't know about the twitter thing. >> talk about your show on the golf channel. it's really taken off. >> i'm dumbfounded by it. really all i do is amuse myself. but in a different way. go ahead. my producer has given me a list of questions, which i studiously ignore. and if there's a logical follow-on question, i'll ask it. and if there's another follow-along question i'll go with that too. it's been a lot of fun. >> the ryder cup is in scotland. what happens if they vote yes? have mel gibson running towards the golfers.
that's crazy. >> you're not far from the truth there when it comes -- although i don't think they'll paint their bums blue. yeah. i see no point in it. you know, the whole division thing is the united kingdom. and a i know what it's like to watch people fight about something that happened four or five years ago. i mean, come on. >> let's talk about another guy from northern ireland. i thought we had seen another young athlete rise up fast, drop off the face of the earth. this is actually really impress i have. we don't sit around here kissing up to athletes. it's impressive that a kid takes off and completely collapses in the most public of ways. he's fought back. he's shown some grit. >> well, you know, at his age, i think nike gave him a couple hundred million dollars.
he fell in love with a beautiful tennis player. i might have taken a year off myself, you know. but i was the assistant professional at the golf club he grew up at, 19 years before he was born. his father used to kick my ass, which is just depressing. but he is -- if somebody told me 15 years ago i was going to see golf again in my lifetime similar to what i was watching with tiger woods or my children would see it, i would have told them that they were out of their mind. but this is a very, very special kid. >> and out of northern ireland. >> david feherty, thank you so much. you can catch all the ryder cup coverage begin september 26th on the golf channel. >> and watch feherty on the golf channel. would your father be proud? >> i think he would. he has alzheimer's and doesn't watch the show. zblf craig melvin is next. into the american consciousness.
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