The 22. Popped up. Sandoval in foul territory. Giants win a world series win for the San Francisco giants for the third time in the last five years and theyre hero m. Welcome to morning joe. We have John Heilemann and on capitol hill, christina is here and willie and me here. That looked like a fun game. It was incredible. It was more than a fun game. It was game seven of the world series. That looked like a good time for everyone. John heilemann is our resident giants fan. The incredible starting pitcher who won twice in the world series comes in out of the bull pen. Here he comes and gives them five innings of two hit scoreless relief on two days rest. This guy is now officially a season legend. Not just two days rest but two days after finishing a complete game shutout on sunday night where he threw 120 pitches. Before this game he said i dont care about pitch counts. Hes old fashioned. Ill go in and get it done. Dominant throughout the series and throughout the entire post season. Extraordinary postseason run for him putting himself in ranks of one of the truly greatest postseason pitchers in the history of the game. Career world series e. R. A. Is. 25. Hes a starting pitcher. He really is you can
overstate a lot of things about sports but in this instance hes the greatest postseason pitcher of all times. And hes 25 years old. Hes a big man. 65. I said hes got a name that would be a great biline if he was a journalist. Thats true. For men like us, hes 65 and you have to like a guy that tall. And tip your cap to the kansas city royals. Havent been to the playoffs in 27 years. That stadium was rocking. They played well. They ran into a buzz saw and lost by one run. At the end of the night they were 90 feet away. Tying run at third base. You know what we need here . If you could sit and shut up that would be good. It was a late game. Where do giants sit in terms
of great teams. You have the as and the big red machine. And yankees. I know you dont like to acknowledge that. This is three in five years. Theyre right there. Theyre still young. I would say if you think about the new millennium, its the giants in the national league. May we go to maine . The best organization right now, the giants. Giants and cardinals are incredible. Thats all i have to say. Thank you very much. Well get to that one. Sit down and shut up. Joe knows how to get it done in the postseason too. I dont know what that means but i like it. And you honor their colors. Showdown is looming in maine between state officials and a nurse who recently returned from
sierra leone. Governor paul lapage is an interesting character. Thats all im going to say. Interesting cat. Hes trying to force hickox to observe a quarantine. State police were sent to her home. She says she has no symptoms of ebola and will only stay in her home through today. I dont want to hurt anyone in the public, but i dont think this is an acceptable line to be drawn. When we let stigmaization win, my friends have to stay three feet away from me. Im not symptomatic. You tell me i cant hug my friend after fighting a tough battle for four weeks in west africa. Its painful and emotionally
draining. And without naming names, president obama criticized lawmakers who are supporting quarantines and travel bans for people returning from ebola affected countries. When i hear people talking about American Leadership and then are promoting policies that would avoid leadership and have us running in the opposite direction and hiding under the covers, it makes me frustrated. I put those on notice who think that we should hide from these problems. Thats not who we are. Thats not who i am. Thats not who these folks are. This is america. We do things differently. This is america. And we do things differently. Unless its Barack Obamas overseeing the military. T its the inconsistency coming from this government that has fueled fears and some would say irrational fears. I dont know if fear is so much of ebola as it is of the governments ability to have a consistent policy and guidelines which the president himself does not have. I get to say its a very bold move. As they say in top gun bold move, maverick. For the president to act that selfrighteous while his own military that he runs, that hes the commander in chief of, that hes the head of, is putting a mandatory 21day quarantine on troops that dont even treat
ebola patients. It is absurd that the president would act that selfrighteous when his own government, his own administration, is conducting the very policies that hes acting so selfrighteous to condemn. This is a jim and Tammy Faye Bakker moment for the president. I know there are people that like to feel superior to others and say American People are just idiots. I tell you what, an amazing poll came out yesterday from the Washington Post that i will say again, i think it goes more to the bungling of this operation from the World Health Organization over the past year and the cdc and the dallas hospital and the states that had inconsistent policies, i think it speaks more to that than
the nurse is right up in maine. You can hug her. Shes not stomaympto symptomati. Healthcare workers get ebola when they treat people in the final stages of ebola. When they really are symptomatic. Shes not symptomatic right now. This bigger fear, it doesnt come from the disease, it comes from the competence and the president going out there and being inconsistent again, thats a real problem. Look at the cbs news poll. I know you alluded to the Washington Post one. It finds that 80 of americans support quarantines for u. S. Citizens returning from west africa. Thats the result of inconsistency out there. I said this a couple days ago when we saw the tent. Thats horrible. It was. I talked to i think it was horrible. I talked to my liberal friends, tent, thats fine. Thats cool. Its not fine. Mika, please. I know what youre saying. Lets not debate around this table in midtown manhattan and feel elite. Im telling you that i was stunned that even progressives and independents and everyone was saying quarantine 21 days that sounds good to me. You look at these numbers. 80 . What do you see in that number . Why is it so high . There is still a lot of the biggest failure to your point has been not just the way in which individual cases have or have not been handled but lack of clarity in terms of how this has been communicated on the part of the administration and Public Health officials and everybody. Weve said this many times. There was not a singular voice who is explaining consistency throughout the way people can understand how it should be done, the dimensions of the problem, how it should be done and then in a way that also
matched up with what the facts were on the ground. People have been for most people the thing is i dont understand. There are things that trouble me and frighten me and if a quarantine will keep me safe i dont think most of them think of quarantine as guantanamolike environment. They think quarantine in their home and stay out of the public. It is silly. Dont hug somebody that doesnt have a symptom and doesnt have a fever. If you look at that poll, most people implicitly trust nurses and doctors but after a doctor that was showing signs of ebola still went out in public but dont you think its a good idea for 21 days to stay in. To not go bowling. I salute the doctor for what he did but that doctor is responsible in large part put the poll number up again. That doctor in large part is responsible for that. He comes and he treats. He runs all over the place. I joke about him sweating and huffing and puffing but doing a lot of things that again just didnt seem to make sense. Governor cuomo said lets face it. He didnt do what he should have done. I think if a guy had done that in kansas city or a guy had done that charlotte, it would be one thing. The guy was doing it in new york city in the densest population in america. He wasnt symptomatic and there wasnt an overarching set of principles that were supposed to be followed. Within 21 days i would say this. I would have common sense im dead serious to not go to a Bowling Alley after i went running. You wouldnt have done it. You guys wouldnt have done it either. Again, its so hard im not judging him at all. Hell be able to speak for himself in some time. Im just explaining that 80 number. So much of what we have seen came from that one news story. So i think also the lack of consistency and the real plan has led to governors being hand fisted and then leading to what Chris Christie did with the nurse in the bubble. And once again one other thing. One problem is i mean, the government has let us down. The Health Organizations have let us down. Actually the disease itself has shown itself to be treatable. A lot has four people have survived. A lot have gone right. Not by the government. Dont say youre sorry. The government hasnt done anything. Im just really trying to get to the news story. The government hasnt done anything right on this. They have bungled it from the very beginning. There have been great doctors who have treated patients with ebola. Weve got four Healthcare Providers that have survived. And that itself i think will
calm people down. Who is not calm right now . Chris christie. Thank you. I think that guy may need to talk to an anger management professional right now. Once again Chris Christie is in the news for taking on a heckler. Dont do that. In a public forum. A former Council Person who is a former pro athlete. This is on Hurricane Sandy relief. The new jersey governor went on attack against a former City Council Member who held a sign that read stay in new jersey, finish the job. You all know me. If well get into a debate here today it will be interesting and fun. Yeah. I understand. So ill be more than happy to have a debate any time you like because you dont know a damn thing of what youre talking about. Ive been here when cameras arent here, buddy, and done the
work. So im glad you had your day to show off but were the ones who are here to actually do the work. Turn around and get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of this state. And theres been 23 months since then when all youve been doing is flapping your mouth and not doing anything. So listen, you want to have the conversation later, im happy to have it, buddy. Until that time, sit down and shut up. Any time. Any time you like. Its wonderful. Absolutely. Ill tell you, theres about 1,000 things ill do tonight. Going to dinner with you is 1,001. Why . The heckler who tried to invite christie to din foner fo debate is drawing attention to a program that gets residents back
in their home. Whats going on . Everybody loves a politician that fights back. You dont you ignore hecklers. You have fun with hecklers. I dont know. Does he think this is a gateway to winning the Iowa Caucuses . Whats going on here . I dont know. I just dont know. Theres obviously we know that the Youtube Channel and his confrontations in various settings are part of what drove him to National Prominence and gave him a certain kind of public profile. I just looked at that and he looked angry. I think anger just never comes across well on television. Humor. You can deal with hecklers. You can be funny. That seemed angry to me. The guy was right in his face. Im not sure shouldnt he have moved at some point . So . Hecklers have been following politicians around for 4,000 years. They sure have. Number one rule is ignore hecklers. Think about this. All of the College Students in iowa that like to really spend a lot of time going to president ial caucus events and talking to these candidates at their town halls, some of them get a little in your face and a little rowdy. If he does that more than once iowa nice does not like that no matter how many times you call them buddy. Governor christie knows this is part of his mythology. These confrontations is part of hi brand and reputation. You can see how much he enjoys getting in,000. In this case the guy brings up a good point about whats happening in new jersey. There are people still not in their homes. Two years this week since sandy and a lot of money to go to rebuild these towns hasnt been distributed. I dont know. Maybe thats not the right way
to go about it. Maybe thats the only way he could get his message after two years. He has a right to do it. We talked about where he went after the teacher. Its one thing when you tell somebody, back off. These are my kids. Its none of your business. These are my kids. I think we all laughed and for good reason. Dont get personal with somebodys kids and if they decide to send them to a christian school. Its quite another thing if somebody is bringing up a legitimate point and youre telling them to sit down and shut up. Its not like this guy was a 9 11 truther screaming from the back of the arena. Maybe he should take it up another way. I dont know how else you get in front of the governor of the state of new jersey. His point is a legitimate point. Where are you from . I want to hear what you have to say. Bring someone over and talk to him personally after. Exactly. Listen, i would love to talk to you. Can you talk to louis. Thats not what you you would want to hear what they have to say. I dont know. Lets let it be for now. The guy is trying to get attention. We understand the guy is getting attention. Chris christie, dont give him attention. You just gave him attention. He was on all of the nightly news broadcasts last night and they went over and interviewed the guy. Do you think Chris Christie for a second regrets that this morning as he watches it . Hes very combative. I think he is seeing the polls that i knew were coming that people probably support his decision to quarantine this nurse so maybe hes feeling feisty. Its a balancing act and he went over the line there. That may work in jersey. I dont even know that that
works in jersey. Its not going to work in new hampshire. Its not going to work in iowa. Its not going to work in south carolina. Its not going to work in the early primary states. Happy warrior is what you want. Not a lot of happy in that image. I cant believe we have a lot of politics to get to. Still ahead on morning joe i cant believe how Many Political stories we have. Am i going to have to say it to you. Sit down David Axelrod will be on set and Bernie Sanders. And jon huntsman sr. Will be here to explain how he went from bare feet to billions. I want to do that. A Denver Broncos fans goes missing for days and then shows up 130 miles away . Well tell you what happened there. Wasting time on the
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in the near future. They are looking to work with provides but it will not come until heavier economic sanctions are lifted. They make it possible to transfer payments into or out of the country. You can listen to your favorite rap mixes. Did you see that . The broncos fan that disappeared where did this guy . He was found safe after walking and hitchhiking 130 miles to pueblo, colorado. I would go to pueblo or boulder. He was found in a kmart parking lot. He was in good condition. He told authorities he had his fill of football and decided to
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average american women. Who decided to do this study . The Washington Post creative writing students will be able to earn credit for surfing the web. The class called wasting time on the internet will force students to be distracted in order to see how it impacts their writing. Dear god. Thats kind of interesting. The professor says the goal is to have students produce a strong story at the end of the semester and hopes the course will prove that internet and digital distraction is making society its not, professor. Let me help you out. Its rewiring the brain. They get distracted every 12 or 13 seconds. There are older people in their 40s and 50s. Im very distracted. Facebook and their twitter and they are just constant. Put it down. Im starting to put mine down. Are you doing that . Its hard. You click on a link on twitter and youre down a rabbit hole for an hour. I have especially over the past month, i get my cell phones and i get home and put them in a drawer. It drives a lot of people crazy who are trying to get in touch with me. They can call me in the morning. Coming up, betting on Atlantic City. The citys mayor joins us on set to explain why numerous casino closings are not news of the citys demise. First David Axelrod will be here for todays must read opinions. Doctor, can you help me. Back to this. She inspires you. No question about that. But your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. Cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moments right. You can be more confident in your ability to be ready. And the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in Blood Pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. Ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30tablet trial. 32 past the hour. Join us for must read opinion pages, director of the university of chicagos institute of politics and msnbc contributor, David Axelrod. So good to see you. You know hes a grandfather now . Hard to believe with someone as youthful as me. Can we show a picture . I have a picture on my phone here. Give it to me. Ill send it in. Shes so beautiful. It was really fantastic. Very warm feeling. Very emotional. Every time people get together who have been impacted by epilepsy, its an emotional event. You guys have all been. It was great. Very emotional. I would think the emotions are broken up by donnie in a black tshirt. There she is. Look at this baby. Hes coming in. Shes absolutely perfect. Eight days old now. So beautiful. Lets go to must read opeds. Shes so cute. Democrats crash land the planet. These are whistling past the
graveyard if they think they can deny shared responsibility for the world on president obamas watch. His is the Foreign Policy espoused by democratic partys leaders for a generation. One is vice president. Another is secretary of state. Leaders in moscow, tehran and beijing get up every day and do one thing. Think about how to diminish or destabilize the u. S. Our leadership got up for six years and thought about wind farms. Senate democrats as is their habit chose not to see. Ill go on a limb and say you probably disagree with the assessment there. Its balanced and fair analysis. Anybody can see that. What about the president has inherited as all president s do, a world thats completely unpredictable and things that have come up whether libya, syria, iraq, afghanistan, how has he faced those challenges in the last year . Lets go back to the beginning. I was with him in 2002 when he was a state senator and he stood up and his concern about iraq was that it would unleash sectarian warfare and make the u. S. A target of extremism around the world. And were dealing with ramifications of that and is the answer to intervene with american troops everywhere theres problems or do you try to build International Coalitions and try to involve people in that region to help solve their own problems . That takes patience and determination. There is a longterm payoff on those things but i think hes done the right things. I said before on syria, i think there was some missteps and those have been talked. I think the whole red line issue
was a mistake. I love these folks that say if you had done what i said two years ago everything would have been different. There were 1,500 different militias there. You didnt know who was what and where weapons would end up. We are facing american weapons from isis so the question is was it a wise thing to arm people when you werent sure how they vetted. I think his concern was legitimate. When you see as we have seen since we decided to escalate the war against isis in the last few weeks, month and a half, you have seen a lot of stories where you have seen people from the pentagon and people being critical of the president in various ways. Talk about your Vantage Point having been inside, when president and people in the white house see those kind of quotes, how do they read that . It feels people are trying to undermine the president publicly. One of the most interesting things you learn when youre there is president of the United States constitutionally civilian control the military and when the president gives an order, the military responds. As anyone that covered washington knows, they are also the most manipulators of the scene in terms of lobbying and well placed leak and call to a friendly congressman in terms of testimony they give on the hill and they do a lot of maneuvering the president on their own and so i became accustomed to that when i was in the white house and im sure they are now too. Lets talk midterms. Roll call out with an updated look on who has the momentum in key senate battlegrounds. In colorado, the previous rating
was a tour tossup between mark udall and congressman cory gardner. Today that race is considered a tossup tilting republican. Lets go to georgia where the republican candidate david perdue was seen as having the e edge and now the contest with Michelle Nunn has a poll suggesting it will go to a runoff in january and kay hagan was thought to have an early edge but now the race against thom tillis looks too close to call and in south dakota, the race is breaking to mike rounds. Except for the last race, we talked about, all these races are tightening up. You have democrats that are tightening up republican leaning
races and republicans in North Carolina tightening up democratic leaning races. This is fascinating. Ill say it. Less than a week out now. We have no idea who is going to win this. There is virtually not. If you look at senate races that are contested, there isnt a single one i feel confident calling the winner in those races. On any given day i can say it will be if you put a gun to my head but theres not one where i feel like its trending in some way that gives you a sense of confidence. And thats the same thing. You look at colorado and i think, okay, republican may squeak that out. Republican may seek out iowa. Kay hagan may squeak out North Carolina. You can go down the list. I cant think of a single race where i would wake up the next morning and go oh my gosh. The only guarantees is roll call reporters are preparing for
recount scenarios in places like North Carolina. That will be very, very close. Kay hagan barely won her seat in 2008 as it was. They are really looking at that and colorado is the most interesting state. This is the wisconsin from 2010 when Russ Feingold lost. This is an incumbent. Makes sense that iowa is trending toward republicans given the National Landscape but colorado. Democratic senator seemed pretty strong but really strong candidate against him and these late breaking movements, theres not a lot to change things over the next five days. Democrats are very, very nervous for good reason. In 2012, i would hear the same thing from republicans that i heard from democrats and hear the same thing from romneys top people i would hear from you. You said it with a bit more confidence and you can just kind of i can read in your voice a week out. You were consistent. You were very confident and consistent about it and reading your body language, they know. Theyre in good shape. Im hearing from almost every reporter on capitol hill now that it is the republicans that sort of have that confidence even though theyre not cocky, they know they can lose it all and democrats who seem to be fretting a bit. Im talking behind the scenes. Is that what youre hearing . There are races not noted here. There are six races in very red states. Three of which incumbent democrats are retiring and republicans have a very good chance to win that. They need six seats. They start with six and then they have to add to it in all of these other races. The odds very much favor them. I think the field this is 18 of the 24 states that voted against obama have senate race this is year. This is a very favorable field
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the end of the day because like you said battlefield is being fought on republicans. Its like a charge for democrats running up the hill. I think republicans will pull it out but i wouldnt be shocked in democrats held serve. What are you thinking today . I think that if you believe that the six very red states are gone, then democrats are going to have to run the table on the rest of those races. Thats going to be very tough to do. Do you believe the six red states are gone . Do you believe louisiana is gone . I think its very tough. I think arkansas is very tough. I think the three where incumbents are retiring, south dakota, west virginia, montana, are gone. Thats what i believe. On the other hand, kentucky. I have said this the other day here. Kansas. Georgia. Im surprised at how much orman is hanging in there in texas. Five up i heard the other day in a poll. I think i expected kansas to go native. Im not sure that they will. I expected and we had somebody on last week talking about muscle memory. Weve all seen it. I said pennsylvania is fools gold for republicans. They go in june were going to win pennsylvania this year and then in october they finally pull up the stakes. Muscle memory kicks in. I expected that to happen in kansas. Kansas is hanging tough. Part of it has to do with the governors race there. Theres a negative environment for republicans. I wonder if North Carolina at the end of the day the reason we see that tighten up, again in an off year election when electorate is older and wider, i wonder whether thats whats happening. Muscle memory. Weve always voted republican. We dont like what the president is doing. We like kay hagan but not enough. It could be. They have run effective ads against her in the last week
using her own quotes. But you look at the count of that is georgia where you think muscle memory would be in the republican direction but it moved in the other direction toward Michelle Nunn. Georgia is not a true red state. Everyone said North Carolina is a purple state. I still think North Carolina is a red state trending but georgia, thats a that is totally new territory. I think its changing before our eyes and you had a guy that bragged about outsourcing against Michelle Nunn. You can look at good political athletes. Nunn a good political athlete. More than anyone expected. Part of it is her tenacity. Ill say at the end of the day, i do think kentucky is one state i would be shocked if it went democratic. I havent said that before. I think Mitch Mcconnell will hold on. We have chuck standing by. Lets start with Chris Christie who jumped into the news for going up against a heckler. Take a look. You all know me so if were going to get into a debate here today its going to get very interesting and very fun. I understand. Ill be more than happy to have a debate any time you like because somebody like you doesnt know a damn thing about what youre talking about except to stand up and show off when the cameras are here. Ive been here when the cameras arent here and done the work. Im glad you had your day to
show off but were the ones who are here to actually do the work. Turn around and get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something for the people of this state. And theres been 23 months since then when all you have done is flap your mouth and not do anything. You want to have the conversation later, im happy to have it, buddy. Until that time sit down and shut up. Any time. Any time. Any time you like. Its wonderful. Absolutely. Ill tell you, theres about 1,000 things ill do tonight. Going to dinner with you is about number 1,001. In 1966, David Axelrod, reagan had his close advisers around him. He was an actor. He lost his temper one time and all of them, i think stu spencer said if you do that again, were leaving. People arent going to vote for an angry ronald reagan. This has always been the fatal flaw of Chris Christie. Whats happening . Ive been through a few president ial races. Every day is filled with aggravation and provocations and if thats the way hes going to react, he has no future in this. It may be charming to flip people off but some take it personally. I dont think hes going to make it. Its not like somebody was yelling out something about his wife or kids which people do on the campaign trail. The guy was talking about a very legitimate policy issue. Whether it was a fair attack or not, it was about policies and he loses it over that . I think it marks him as an angry man. Happy warrior is what you want. Hes got warrior but not happy there. Joining us now from louisiana, moderator of meet
the press, chuck todd. Well get to what youre doing in louisiana in a second. Whats your take on Chris Christie yesterday . Look, what you guys just said. If that is the attitude he has while campaigning, hes never going to make it through iowa. Hes never going to make it through new hampshire. He cant be that thin skinned. If youre that thin skinned on the trail and its going to be a very Short Campaign for him. Hes got to learn theres part of that i wouldnt be surprised if some in the Republican Base if thats the christie way of saying you know im not you dont think im conservative enough but maybe im angry enough for you for conservative base, maybe thats what he thinks would work there. Overall, that will i think hes headed for a long campaign. You know how president ial campaigns go. If you blow your top in
nashville, tennessee, on a saturday night as a president ial candidate, it makes the morning news shows. What do you hear on the ground in louisiana . A couple things. Number one, i think the way to watch this first round of voting. Nobody believes that this thing ends on november 4th and this will be a runoff. How big is the africanamerican vote . Theres been some question whether the africanamerican vote is as big as it was prekatrina. This is the first time Mary Landrieu has had to run in a midterm postkatrina. The first time she ran postkatrina after a lot of
africanamericans moved out of the state was a president ial year. Barack obama on the ballot the first time. Africanamerican turnout was maximized. First time without that. Thats a question mark. Landrieu campaign sits there and tells me, hey, at our early vote numbers. They are running ahead of 2010 and im thinking well everything runs ahead from 2010 for democrats considering how bad it was. I think what to watch for on election night, is she at 46 , 47 , 48 or at 42 , 43 or 44 . If shes below 46 , it will be an uphill battle. You spoke with jeb bush. What do you think is going on . His son seems to be jumping in. His son thought he would jump
in. Jeb bush was in colorado campaigning for slate of gop candidates and cory gardner is locked in a tight race and bush sounded like a president ial candidate going after Hillary Clinton for remarks she made on the campaign trail last week where he said businesses dont create jobs. When i asked him whether or not he was planning to run in 2016, he was more reluctant if you want to take a listen. Are you going to run for president . I think hes still assessing it. More than 50 or less than 50 . I think its more than likely that hes given this serious thought in moving forward. More than likely hell run . Hell run. A few years back i would have said less likely. The family is behind him 100 . The family is behind him 100 if he decides to do it. Can i ask you what your son said this weekend on abc. Is that where your head is on running for president . He has an opinion. He didnt talk to me. You love them to death and they have their own opinions but ill make up my mind just as i said at the end of the year. You said that to vanderbilt you would consider it with your family over the holidays, thats the plan . Same as ive always said. Nothing new here. As you can see, he was not eager to make news on this particular front. We should point out that jeb bush has been doing aggressive midterm campaigning even though it has flown under the radar. Hes been to more than 13 states. Hes focused on governors races particularly governors that he helped in 2010 four years ago to originally get elected. Theres no question that hes working hard to maintain his ties across the country all of which could help him should he decide to run. I thought jeb handled that very well actually. Thats why hes potentially potent candidate. I feel sorry for the guy. His mother and his kids. Everybody is getting him in trouble. They are all weighing in. Hes very personable. Thats part of his strength. That was jeb. Very likable jeb there. A contrast with governor christie. A big contrast. In fairness, he did not seem to really be anxious to chat with me and he said as much but did decide he was going to talk there for a little while. How was he received with a crowd there . Obviously hes got a couple of problems especially on common core, which is one of these issues. I want to go to chuck after this. It flies under the radar for a lot of people but means a lot in the republican primaries and also immigration where hes way out in front on immigration. Its interesting, joe. He actually was proceeded on stage by another congressional candidate here in colorado who went after common core. Bush himself did mention education in his speech like i said. It was pretty brief. It is part of the reason why voters here should elect republicans to sort of help in getting republican education policies enacted. I will say the reaction was a
little bit subdued. It wasnt a huge crowd. He spoke very quickly. He didnt do any sort of rope line campaigning at the end. His appeal has been to hispanic voters. This state really mirrors the general electorate. Theres a sizable hispanic voting population and jeb bush cut Spanish Language ad for cory gardner and he hosted a roundtable with hispanic Business Leaders earlier in the day. Chuck, im curious what your read is on governor bush . He also did a speech a couple nights ago where he was harsh in an attack on president obama with common core defense and immigration stuff, and stuff with his family. You read the tea leaves and it seems like its more and more like he actually is going to be running but theres enough contradictory evidence out there to give you doubt. Whats your thought about that . I feel like behind the scenes you feel like people around jeb bush are pushing, pushing pushing and when he gets out in
front he pulls back a little bit with different things. I agree. Its very contradictory. If you have watched what hes done on the campaign trail this year, he does when he does any Senate Candidates, its almost exclusively hispanics and fundraising. Hes much more comfortable talking bigger policy issues with the gubernatorial candidates and i know in talking to some of the Senate Campaigns that have brought jeb bush in, i had one strategist say, yeah, we brought him in real fast. Helped raise money and said dont talk about immigration and dont talk about education. And this happened to be for a Senate Candidate running in a redder state. So thats the open question here. Can he find space in a republican primary and people that ive talked to close to him say if he cant if he doesnt think conservative electorate will accept him in some form, accept him during the debate but attack him for those positions, hes probably going to take a
pass. Chuck todd, thank you. And joe, just back to jeb bush. What do you think his impact is on different demographics . I think its exciting to have a guy that everybody calls in to talk to hispanics. Republicans just did absolutely miserableaby in 2012. It was in miami. You would have sat there in wonderment. We were in miami and he was crushed. The crowd was half hispanic, half caucasian for the most part. Someone would ask him a question in english and hell answer in english. And then right over here someone will ask him a question in spanish and he will sit there and sit there and talk for two, three, four, five minutes. The question is when he talk to republicans . Thats a problem. I think the problem is if his last name were smith, he would be in better shape. We all love 41. 43 will be more of a going to take longer for people to turn and love him. Among conservatives, neither 41 or 43 is a hero in primaries. Let me just say if he sticks to positions on immigration and education reform and gets past the nominating process, hell be a potent candidate for president. If he collapses on those issues, hell be like romney, like mccain and hell have mortgaged himself to the base of the party and he wont win a general election. If he gets through, no doubt about it there are a lot of democrats that would fear facing that guy in the general election. All right. Kasie hunt, thank you. Tomorrow, well go inside the Close Senate Race in colorado and still ahead this morning, its been 25 years since Michael Lewis captured the wild ways of wall street in his book liars
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the point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed for lack of a better word is good. Tender age of 22, i headed to the only place that fit my ambition. Greed is right. Move money from your clients pocket into your pocket. Greed works. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save our paper but other malfunctioning corporation called the usa. Yeah. A lot of people hated that movie. I was not one of them. Michael douglas and Leonardo Dicaprio captured wild ways of the 1980s. So did our next guest. He was actually there. Michael lewis, liars poker. Michael joins us now along with michelle cabrera. The day after the world series, i have to ask you, everybody loved to say money ball, great. It worked one or two years. It worked again this year. The as if they hadnt if as had not taken jon lester out in the seventh inning, chances are good it wouldnt have been the royals playing last night. It would have been the as. Its still working. Its more than that. The as, yeah, theyre the money ball team but all teams have big analytic departments. They have transformed baseball. And the idea that theres a money ball team and an antimoney ball team doesnt exist anymore. They are all money ball teams. He tells me, he says the stuff that you wrote about in money ball was public information. We were just using things you get off the web. How long will he stick around in baseball . A while i think. The analytics are so sophisticated he wont let me in to see it because there are secrets. Theres r d at every time. Everyone is doing it differently. The idea has swept the sport. Remember the initial question was posed to paul volcker. He was the original guy meant to answer the question, does money matter to baseball or not . Its the same guy who invoked the volcker rule. Are you going to level the revenue field so everyone had
the same amount . He didnt understand. Its the obvious question. How can a team with 40 million compete against a team with 120 million. The answer is, one you can learn things and find out things and market inefficiencies but theres randomness in baseball. People see giants win and they tell a story about how that was really going to happen but it could have gone either way. Its like the red sox from worst to first to worst and last year you had seven guys who had their best season ever and it was never going to happen again. Sometimes lightning just strikes especially in playoffs. Lets go back to this. 25 years later whats changed . What great productive positive moves have you made . You talked about wall street run by a bunch of people that made way too much money and played fast and loose with the rules. Whats changed in 25 years . The era i described looks
charming and innocent. You know, the book starts when this era of wall street starts. Its the death of the partnership. All of a sudden its not their money theyre speculating with. Its shareholder money. Its the creation of options which leads to derivatives which makes everything complicated and nobody understands it and the idea that investment banks werent Service Operations but Trading Operations and thats become more and more and more true. The big changes are too big to fail. The notion of too big to fail because big firms went out of business back then. No more. And theyre bigger. Its also the time of incredible innovation. Deregulation that allowed for creation of mortgage back oil tg
at that time and so much stuff happened back then. People who worked during that time period, when you meet them to this day, they look back on that time period with joy. They thought it was a great place to work. It was. It was terrific. You loved it. I loved the people. I still am in touch with a lot of people. I guess so there was a surface vulgari vulgarity. You would see a woman dancing naked on a desk and you would you would not. That happens in the today show newsroom but i didnt think it happened anywhere else. There was a surface vulgarity but beneath it there was a sense of financial propriety. If what im doing useful . At that time it was be a opportunity for innovation to be useful. Creation of the mortgage bond was a hugely beneficial thing. It sounds like it was a little bit like wolf of wall street back then. Those people thought they were changing the world. Thats true. They thought they were changing for the better. And indulging in surface vulgarity. A little . Jfk did strip clubs. You can do both at the same time. So some of the scenes from wolf of wall street were not unfamiliar to me but some of that was martins fantasy life. I dont think it had much to do with wall street. It was pure fraud. Wall street firms presumably arent built on fraud. Everything he was doing was illegal. All of the business side of things were illegal. In the movie. I dont think it was a good description of the street. It was funny. Lets not let facts get in the way of good movies. The point youre making is that things that were the same then and now is a lot of the best and brightest kids come out of college and flock to wall street for the obvious reason. Used to be the bottom class of yale that went. Nice young men who were presentable but they wouldnt cause trouble because they werent bright enough to. Its remained the same ever since. We go through various cycles. Its the case because a lot of money is being made there. Now your critique is that most of the stuff that goes on on wall street is socially and economically unproductive. A lot of it is. A lot of innovation is i think. Is there any way to change this is big macro question. Is there any way to change the incentive structure in our society so best and brightest College Students no longer went into this field that is largely socially and economically
unproductive . As a practical matter probably not. But the kind of things you could do, what really needs to happen is the incentives of the employees of the firms have to be realigned with the firm. They dont have that now. You see the rigging of Foreign Exchange markets and stock market which doesnt make a lot of sense from the point of the firm. They make some money but the risk for the firm but it makes sense at the level of employee because hes in his firm for few years trying to get a bonus at the end of the year and hes off. What about throwing people in jail . Would that have a Chilling Effect . The problem is proving the case. That may do it. The carrot works better than the stick on wall street. 25 years ago this is when things started to get more
complex and didnt we get to a point also that was the point 25 years ago where the s. E. C. Could keep up with the firms. I dont know the s. E. C. Ever kept up. Ever. It has gotten worse now. They have no hope. More money and more money and they still dont, right . Its a perfect example of if only they had more money. Its hard for people making 75,000 to track down people that are making a billion. Its especially hard when the guy is making 75,000 a year and assume the next step is to make a million. Nobody questions it. Also, when the Financial Markets get as complicated as theyve become, its very easy for a smart wall street person to walk into an s. E. C. Meeting and make it sound beyond their comprehension or at least so complicated you dont want to screw with it because you dont know consequences of what youre doing. Its a difficult environment for a regulator to operate in i think. Almost impossible. 25th anniversary of liars poker is out now. What are you working on now . Im working on a pilot for showtime set on wall street in the 1920s. Thats going to be good. Its one of the most controversial covers of Time Magazine in recent years. Times nancy gibbs responds to the huge reaction from her magazines rotten apples story in just a few minutes. A remarkable scene in hawaii as the volcanos lava is making its way toward a large residential area. Well be right back. Ameriprise asked people a simple question in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms . I sure hope so. With healthcare costs, who knows. Umm. Everyone has retirement questions. So ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. Now you and your ameripise advisor. Can get the real answers you need. Start building your confident retirement today. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. From biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo. Startupny has new businesses popping up across the state. See how startupny can help your business grow at startup. Ny. Gov
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breakouts and you can feel it. You can barely breathe. Its smoky and thick. This is what is feeding that lava flow thats heading over the town of pahoa. Its a bathtub full of lava. Its crusted over on top and acts as insulation keeping that lava underneath incredibly hot. That crust is like ice on a lake. Underneath are tubes that funneling the lava right toward civilization. Its been about 17 weeks and this thing has traveled 12 miles it shows no signs of stopping just yet. Its nature at its most powerful. Breath taking beautiful and devastating. Can Matthew Mcconaughey continue his hot streak with his performance in inner stellar. A look at the film when we come
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but we went to summer camp together. Summer camp is over. [ male announcer ] tomcat. [ cat meows ] [ male announcer ] engineered to kill. Well, here she is. Youre causing problems, nancy gibbs. Time magazine, why do teachers hate you and why do you hate teachers . Nancy gibbs has a look at the new issue which is cool and well get to that in just a moment. Rotten apples . Theyre not happy with you on your last cover. She said its an assault on teachers. I love a lively debate about an important issue as much as anyone. Im concerned when our coverage of a debate is mischaracterized. We wrote about landmark california case that says keeping a bad teacher in a classroom is unconstitutional. The rotten apples are those bad teachers. You say that in your subtitle. Yes. But somehow the protest is saying that it insults all teachers and so im a little puzzled by that. Whats most poignant to me is people most upset by bad teachers are good teachers. If youre a great third grade teacher and you brought your class along and lit them on fire with the love of learning and you turn them over to an ineffective teacher and you watch that be lost, its heartbreaking. Its like on the show where we have a great segment and we bring John Heilemann and its heartbreaking. This makes me crazy. This is such a strategy of enforcers of status quo. The only way to remain status quo is to turn every critique no matter how nuance as an attack on all teachers. They do this all the time. It undermines the credibility of those within the status quo who say they are open to reform because what they do is they just attack anyone who makes criticism whatsoever as being a hater of teachers. It makes me crazy. It misses larger point which is why we did the cover story in the first place. Were five days away from an election. A lot of people think our politics locally, nationally, are broken and some of them are now going to the courts to try to accomplish in courts what is not happening in legislaturlegi. You can agree with the ruling or disagree but it has huge implications and we ought to talk about is this the way we want to make policy. If words and images matter, which they totally do, do you think if you put a question mark behind the word apples that you would have a different conversation . Or if you had 1,000 apples on your cover and then one rotten one. Im not sure there is anything we could have done that would have forestalled this
reaction. This is the way that the question is fantastic. They put a question mark after something. Thats how they hedge. Thats strategy in the headline. Rotten apple question mark. Youre not making a declarative statement. Youre making a declarative statement on the cover rotten apples. The fact is that a judge has ruled that a bad teacher is unconstitutional. This is why this is an important case. The copycat cases are being filed in new york and elsewhere. Again, is this the way we want to have this debate and make policy . Its silly. There are rotten apples. There are horrible teachers. There are horrible lawyers. There are horrible journalists. There are horrible tv hosts. In every field you can go, there are rotten apples in that field. Someone who is not a rotten apple, Christopher Nolan who just may be one of the
segue. Youre doing great today. Incredible. One of the most remarkable directors that we have. Mind bending how good he is. Remarkable movie. Its very different than what hes done. This movie interstellar is about outer space but its also about love and loss and sacrifice. Its about personal space and hes brought the two together in an extraordinary narrative. The special effects are incredible. Performances are incredible. Its so ambitious in themes so when you take a director like nolan and have him set the bar as high as he did with this film of what he was trying to look at. How good is Christopher Nolan, man . Christopher nolan is incredible. If you think about the entire body of work, theres almost no one who has been as ambitious in terms of the scale of the things hes done. Thats the word. If you think about the batman movies, theyre
ambitious artistically, scale, technologically and the ambition has paid off so far in every movie. Okay. Nancy gibbs, thank you so much. Everyone wants to see this movie. I want to see this movie. Time is out right now. Great to see you. I want to see bad teachers taken out of classrooms so 98 of Great Teachers can do their jobs. Maybe i just love children too much. I dont know. Maybe its just america that i love. Rotten tv hosts. I believe children are the future. Is the u. S. On the verge of becoming a third world country . Thats what senator Bernie Sanders says. Hell be on set to explain why. Plus, her foundation has raised nearly 30 million for Epilepsy Research and shes not close to being done. No way. Susan axelrod joins us. She did it despite the fact shes married to a guy named david. How did she do that . The exhilaration of a new engine. Painstakingly engineered without compromise. To be more powerful. And, miraculously, unleash 46 mpg highway. An extravagance reserved for the privileged few. Until now. Hey josh new jetta . Yeah. Introducing lots of new. The new Volkswagen Jetta tdi clean diesel. Isnt it time for german engineering . Dont thank me. Hes the one. Hes the one that was fun ill be over here. Oh, probably wont even let you go there. Citizens united for research in epilepsy, id like to say it uninterrupted, susan axelrod. Very nice to see you. The baby is so beautiful. I know, were so excited. Theres nothing better. Gorgeous. Talk about progress, what progress is being made . You know, we are really growing the community of supports. We just had an event last night in new york. Weve got one in boston. Mike barnicle is involved with. Our friend carole king is going to be performing. Oh, wonderful. Thats great. Were really excited about that. Beyond that, what were doing with all the money we raise with all the hard work of these supporters is to really invest in cutting edge science. We have a couple of really groundbreaking initiatives. Because progress is being made. Yes. So theres a lot of genetic discovery going on across the board and what we have just started is a database repository
so patients can come and get themselves sequenced and researchers can access this data and make advances. Patients data will be stored with us in a confidential way so when discoveries are made we can go back to them, we think your child, your loved one, we may have found something. Obviously, one of the greatest tragedies is unexpected sudden death among epilepsy patients. You are also rewarding grants in that area. Thats an area of real importance to us. Making progress on that . We are making progress. One of the things thats exciting about the small investment weve made in terms of dollars but really targeted research is the nih has now picked it up and is doing a huge project. So thats one of the things we like to do is give the seed grants out so people can take it and go forward for greater support. Its astounding to think there are 200,000 people a year
will be diagnosed with this. You have a great website that shares these personal stories. That inspires. So when youre out there trying to raise money and bring attention to this, what are you trying to let people know . Because there is inspiration. But theres also some hard reality. Some of these stories are heart wrenching. They truly are. You want to give people hope. You dont want to be too despairing in the stories. But the fact is, we have stories of people and one of the things that keeps me motivated is 30 years ago we went through this with our daughter and i get a call or email from a new patient would seems to be traveling the same path as my daughter. Unacceptable. Thats why the research is so critical. We talk about ebola. Its a concerning thing. Up to 50,000 people a year lose
their lives in epilepsy or seizurerelated causes. Thats a real Public Health crisis. Its something on which we should focus much more energy, much more attention. You devoted so much of your life to this. Obviously because of your daughter. I will never forget reading the parade magazine piece where you describe some of the most unbelievably heart wrenching moments about treatments that didnt work and procedures. Watching her suffer. How is she doing now . Shes doing great. Shes one of the stories that is important to share. Because 14 years ago, she went on to a new medication and she hasnt had a seizure since. Unfortunately, the barrage of medications and treatments and seizures we couldnt control for the first 18 years took a toll. But the brain is an amazing organ. We are seeing her make steady improvements. Every day. She blows our mind with something new shes figured out. How much easier to face this now that you have a doctor in your family. Dr. Axelrod. You just cant stop it. You cant let go. Susan an email that said despite my husband, would you please psychiatry, try to figure this out. A lot of people have tried congratulations. Thank you. This is really incredible. The progress youre making despite the fact also that she did this with Donny Deutsch this time. Thats true, yes. Were coming in boston when were november 13th. Wheres that going to be . Boston. Okay. Carole king. We will be there. Thank you for so many reasons. Thank you. Chris christie tells a heckler to sit down and shut up. Dont do that. No, dont do that. When morning joe comes right back. Before larry instantly transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. Before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an underserved season. And before he quit his friends leafraking business for not offering a 401k. Larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement. Thats why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help him plan for the road ahead. Thats the power of streamlined connections. Thats merrill edge and bank of america. I have 40,ney do you have in your pocket right now . 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. When diet and exercise arent enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55 . Yeah crestor is not for people with Liver Disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. Tell your doctor all medicines you take. Call your doctor if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired, have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine, or yellowing of skin or eyes. These could be signs of serious side effects. Are you down with crestor . Ask your doctor about crestor. Welcome back to morning
joe. John heilman is back with us at the table. It was game seven of the world series. That looked like a good time for everyone. John heilman is our resident giants fan. Five innings of two hits, sco scoreless relief. Not just two days rest but two days after finishing a shutout where he threw 120 pitches. Back up here last night before this game saying i dont really care about pitch counts. An oldfashioned kind of pitcher. Was dominant just throughout the series. Just an extraordinary postseason run for him. Putting himself in the ranks of, you know, one of the truly greatest post pitchers. Puts him in Mariano Rivera company. Except hes a starting pitcher. He really is just you can
overstate a lot of things about sports but in this instance he really is in the pantheon. And hes 25 years old. 25 years old. A really good height too. 65. Christina, what was that . I said hes got a name that would be a great bye line if he was a journalist. And hes also 65. You got to like a guy that tall. Absolutely. And tip your cap to the kansas city royals. Hadnt been to the playoffs in 29 years. A generation of losing. They played incredibly well. Where do the giants sit in the like at least the pan thr pantheon of great teams . Youve got the as in the early 70s. The yankees of the 90s. I know you dont like to acknowledge that. Yankees won four and five years. Theyre right there. Theyre still young. Id say if you think about the new millennium, the two great teams so far are the red sox in the American League and the giants in the national league. Okay. To maine. The best organization right now, the giants. Giants and the cardinals are incredible. Thats all i have to say. Ill be quiet now. Thank you very much. Sit down and shut up. Well get to that one. That hurts me. Joe has a lot things in common with the giants. He knows how to get it done in the postseason. Exactly. And youre honoring their colors. What can i say . A showdown is looming in maine. Between state officials and a nurse who recently returned from sierra leone. Governor paul le page. Hes an interesting character. Hes an interesting cat. Hes an interesting cat. Hes an interesting cat, man. Hes trying to force hickox
to observe a quarantine. Hickox is vowing to fight any attempt by the state for mandatory isolation. She says she has no symptoms of ebola and will only agree to stay in her home through today. I dont want to hurt anyone in the public, but i dont think this is an acceptable line to be grown. When we let stigmaization win, we all lose. I think this is something we have to fight from the beginning. I have been told that if friends come to my house, they cant hug me. They have to stay three feet away from me. Im not symptomatic. Theres no way i could give someone ebola. Youre telling me i cant hug my friend after ive been fighting a really tough battle for four weeks in west africa. Its painful. Its emotionally draining. And without naming names, president obama criticized lawmakers who are supporting quarantines and travel bans for people returning from ebola affected countries. When i hear people talking
about American Leadership, and then promoting policies that would avoid leadership, and have us running in the opposite direction. Hiding under the covers. It makes me a little frustrated. I put those on notice who think that we should hide from these problems. Thats not who we are. Thats not who i am. Thats not who these folks are. This is america. We do things differently. This is america. We do things differently. Unless its in Barack Obamas own government in the military. So anyway. The commander in chief of course i guess is he saying that hes hiding under the covers . Again, its the inconsistency. The constant inconsistency coming from this government that has fueled fears. Some would say irrationale fears. I dont know if the fears so much of ebola as it is of the governments ability to have a consistent policy. A consistent set of guidelines which the president himself does not have. I yet to say its a very bold move. As we say in top gun, bold move, maverick. For the president to go out there and act that selfrighteous while his own military that he runs, that hes the ghand ecommander in chief o putting a mandatory 21day quarantine on troops that dont even treat ebola patients. It is absurd that the president would act that selfrighteous when his own government, his own administration, is conducting the very policies that hes
acting so selfrighteous to condemn. This is a jim and Tammy Faye Bakker moment for the president on the ebola front. I wont call them dumb liberals. I know there are a lot of people who like to feel superior to others. And say oh, the American People theyre just hucksters, theyre just idiots. An amazing poll from the Washington Post. I will say, again, goes more to the bungling of this operation from the World Health Organization over the past year and the cdc and the dallas hospital and the states that had inconsistent policies. I think it states more to that. You know what, the nurse is right up in maine. You can hug her. Shes not symptomatic right now. The one thing weve learned over past month is Health Care Workers get ebola when they treat people in the final stages of ebola. And when theyre really symptomatic. Shes not symptomatic right now. But this bigger fear, this doesnt come from the disease it comes from the incompetence. The president out there, inconsistent again, thats a real problem. This poll finds that 80 of americans support quarantines for u. S. Citizens returning from west africa. That, again, as you say, the result of the inconsistency out there. The government hasnt done anything right on this. I mean, they have bungled it from the very beginning. But there have been great doctors who have treated patients with ebola. And that itself i think will calm people down. Whos not calm right now, Chris Christie. Thank you. I think that guy may need may need to talk to an anger management professional. Well, once again, chris
christies in the news for taking on a heckler. Dont do that. In a public forum. A former Council Person whos a former pro athlete as well. Anyhow. This time its on Hurricane Sandy relief. Went on the attack against a former City Council Member who held a sign that read, state in new jers new jersey, stay in new jersey, finish the job. You know me. Its going to get very interesting and very fun. I understand. Ill be more than happy to have a debate with you anytime you like, guy. Somebody like you who doesnt know a damn thing what hes talking about. Ive been here when the cameras werent here and did the work. Im glad you had your day to show off. But were the ones who are here to actually do the work. So turn around, get your 15 minutes of fame and then maybe take your jacket off, roll up your sleeves and do something
for the people of this state. And theres been 23 months since then when all youve been doing is flapping your mouth and not doing anything. So listen, you want to have the conversation later, im happy to have it, buddy. But until that time, sit down and shut up. Any time. Any time. Any time you like. Wonderful. Absolutely. Yeah. Ill tell you. Theres about 1,000 things ill do tonight. Going to dinner with you is about number 1,001. Why . Um why . The heckler who tried to invite christie to dinner to finish the debate was trying to draw attention to a 1 billion program that gets new jersey residents back in their homes following sandy. Whats going on with him . Im sorry. Everybody loves, you know, politician that fights back. But you dont, you dont you ignore hecklers. You have fun with hecklers. I dont know. Does he think this is, like, a gateway to winning the iowa
caucuses . Whats going on here . I dont know. Look, theres obviously he had we know the Youtube Channel and his confrontations in various settings is part of what drove him to National Prominence and gave him a sort of public profile. I think angerer in comes across well on television. As you said, joe humor. That just seemed angry to me. I dont think the guy was right in his face. And im not sure so . Shouldnt he have moved at some point or so . I mean, you have hecklers. Hecklers have been christina, hecklers have been following politicians around for like 4,000 years. They should have. The number one rule is ignore hecklers. Like to really spend a lot of time going to president ial
caucus events and talking to these candidates at their town halls. Some of them get a little in your face and a little rowdy. Like the iowa nice does not like that. No matter how many times you call someone buddy, its clear theyre not your buddy. We all know christie knows this is part of his own mythology. These confrontations. As part of his brand and reputation. You can see how much he enjoys the problem is the guy brings up fairly a really good point about whats happening in jersey. There are people still not in their homes. A lot of that money. This guys from bellemare. Just hasnt been distributed. I dont know. Maybe thats the only way he could get his message out. Hes got a right to go and carry a sign and you know, the thing is, we talked about he went after the teacher in
its one thing when youre telling somebody, hey, back off, these are my kids. Its none of your business, these are my kids. I think we all laughed and for good reason. Dont get personal with somebodys kids. If they decide to send them to a christian school. Its quite another thing if somebodys bringing up a legitimate point and youre telling them to sit down and shut up. Its just its not like this guy was a 9 11 truther screaming from the back of the arena. Maybe he should take it up another way, but i dont know how else you get in front of the governor of the state of new jersey. But his point is a legitimate point. Could you say, listen, bellemare, okay, i want to hear what you have to say. Lets take your name and number and get back to you. Or bring someone over to and then go talk to him personally after. I dont know exactly. Hey, listen, can you id love to talk to you, can you give lewis the name and number. Sounds like youve done that before. You want to hear what they have to say. I dont know. No, the guy obviously yes, the guys trying to get attention. We understand the guys trying to get attention. So Chris Christie, dont give him attention. You just gave him attention. On all the nightly news broad casts last night and they they went over and interviewed the guy. Do you think Chris Christie regrets that . Hes gotten very combat im. I think hes seen the polls that i knew were coming that people probably support his decision to quarantine this nurse. The balancing act, i mean, he went over the line there. That may work in jersey. I dont even know that that works in jersey. Its not going to work in new hampshire. Its not going to work in iowa. Its not going to work in south carolina. Its not going to work in the early happy warrior is what you want. Youve got to enjoy that. Not a lot of happy in that image. Still ahead on morning joe, independent u. S. Senator from vermont Bernie Sanders is here. And then, john hunt sr. Will join us. Janis joplin. Holy cow, how did we do that . Is 27 really the most likely age for rock royalty to have an untimely death . Some researchers decide to take a look. Was there a study found . Wasnt jim morrison 27 also . But first our own, our very own janis joplin, bill karins. Im safely past 27. The cold is on its way. We had a pretty good october across this country. And november is when we really take the plunge. It is on its way. Right now, the cold blast is located up there in northern canada. It is heading due south. Right now, its about 25 in churchill. The blue shows you the cool air. The purple is the cold air. That drops down into on halloween friday, chicago, st. Louis, kansas city, detroit and cleveland. Then it dips to the south. Thats going to be unusual for your saturday morning in the southeast. Up through new england as we go through sunday, the noreaster look, to miss us but some areas will get snow out of this. If youre in North Carolina mountains or in maine, nova scotia, newfoundland, thats who gets the snow. We have winter watches up. 4 to 8 inches. For the mountains in North Carolina. Any leaves on the trees will be a problem. Todays forecast, really no problems across the country. In talking about the halloween forecast, chicago, cleveland, kansas city, areas like that, make sure you bring your winter coats with you as youre out trick or treating a arrives for ghosts and goblins. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. And now telcos using hp Big Data Solutions are feeling the love, too. By offering things like onthespot data upgrades an idea that reduced overcharge complaints by 98 . No matter how fast your Business Needs to adapt, if hp Big Data Solutions can keep wireless customers smiling, imagine what they can do for yours. Make it matter. There was no question do she reminds you every day. But your erectile dysfunctionthat could be a question of blood flow. Cialis for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. You can be more confident in your ability to be ready. And the same cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. Tell your doctor about all your
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fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. A look at the morning papers. What happened . Huh . All right. Oh, wow. What is that . Perry peopler plays his picker. Pervy pepper plays his picker. Fiddler on the roof. Thats a horrible story. Im not even going to read that. The wall street journal. The wall street journal reports president obamas planning to cut the number of u. S. Deportations of
undocumented worker, through an executive action. The white house is considering two criteria that will determine who gets to stay and who has to leave. Individuals will have to spend a minimum amount of time in the u. S. Their ties to family members already in the u. S. Will also be considered. The new criteria could protect between 1 million and 4 million how incredible, just one week before the election, the president s decided to stop deporting as many hispanics as he has in the past. Just a coincidence. One week before the election. After being criticized by hispanic leaders. Arent you full of critique this morning . Its just so funny how things happen. Oh, yes they do. Serendipity. I love that movie, by the way. Apple reportedly in talks to cell the iphone in iran if western sanctions were to ease in the near future. The tech giant is looking into working with cell phone distributors rather than stores
directly operated by apple. The move will not come until heavier economic punishments against iranian Financial Institutions are lifted. Those sanctions make it possible to transfer payments into or out of the country. You can listen to your favorite Ayatollah Khomeini raps like they got some party mixes of him. Death to america. Death, death, death. I mean, its the unplugged album. Acoustics. The fan who disappeared from the game where did this guy go . Found safe after walking and hitchhiking 130 miles to the town of pueblo, colorado. If i were going to go somewhere, i would go to pueblo or boulder. Found in a kmart parking lot. Despite extreme fatigue, was in good condition. He told authorities he, quote, had his fill of football and decided to go for a walk. Its happened to us all. 180mile walk. He was not following media
reports and was unaware people were searching for him. Something else going on. The game didnt go as well as you expected. Youre like, im going to go walk 180 miles. He said he got very little cash, no cell phone, and just walked 130 miles. Something else is im kind of jealous. We need a followup on this story. Wall street journal. A new study out of australia catting doubt on the theory of the socalled 27 club. Thats the age when rock musicians are said to be at the highest risk of an untimely death. You know the list. Janis joplin, jimi hendrix, curt cobain. Jim morrison. Researchers say that number 27 thing is a myth. A review of Music Industry deaths shows while musicians generally do live shorter lives, theyre still around well into their 50s. Of course they are, on average. The average female musician lives into her 60s compared to 80 for average american woman. Who in australia decided to do this study . I dont know. The Washington Post. Creative writing students can get credit for serving the web. The class called wasting time on the internet will force students to be districted in order to see how it impacts their writing. Oh, dear god. Thats actually kind of interesting. The professor says the goal is to have students produce a strong story at the end the semester. He hopes the curious will prove the internet and digital distraction is making society its not, professor. Its actually rewiring the brain . Its rewiring millennials brain. They get distracted every 11, 12, 13 seconds. There are a lot of older people too. Like their 40s and 50s. That are just im very distracted. The facebook and trying to detach. Its constant. Its like distracted. Put it down. The socalled Brain Fitness industry is booming. Does the mind game actually work . Were going to talk to a
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their apps. Learning a new language, even in the 40s or 50s. Picking up piano. Doing things that really bend your mind. Youre on to something thats essential. That is new learning. New learning. What tends to happen as we get older is we do more and more of things were really good at. We have a lot of expertise in. Thats good but its not helping us, you know, sort of stimulate we need to create new brain neural pathways by challenging ourselves. All these things seem like an awful lot of work. Is there not a pill i can take . Is there an app . Im not kidding. Fix this with a pill . There is. I would really like that. Depends what you think as close. Theres some very interesting work going on. I would guess one day we will have a pill. Will it come to fruition before im dead . This is the question. Do you focus on dementia or alzheimers, both . This is an important point. Theres no evidence that playing brain games can ward off alzheimers disease, zero. What about dementia . None that it would ward off dementia. I ask that question because maybe what were looking at isnt dementia. I had a grandmother who lived to be 93. She stayed engaged and active. We kept her busy with little tasks around the house. She stopped at 92. And fell off a cliff, died at 93. I mean, just basically stopped using her mind. And ill just my mom and actually my dad, when they retired and stopped working and stopped using their mind actively, ive noticed a precipitous decline. I talked about judges last week. Federal judges. They stay active and stimulated in their late 80s. Work seems to have benefits for cognitive furngsing. Theres some interesting studies where they compare cognitive
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