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Your land like you do. Trump is the first president since Franklin Roosevelt to shrink a National Monument. Reportedly the largest reduction of a National Monument in history. Todays event sets the stage also for a battle in the courts and larger fight over opening up other protected lands to drilling, mining, logging, you name it. Trite utah where the president just wrapped up his speech. Nbcs jeff bennett is in salt lake city. Tell us the story. Reporter well, the president came here to tell utahens what they wanted to hear for a decade or longer, ali. That the federal government would relinquish at least some, in this case, roughly 2 million acres of federally controlled land giving it back to utahens to control as they see fit. The president framed it a as a states rights case, because the federal government controls all but onethird of the public land here in utah. The president , the delegation from utah, all the folks exiting the room have been waiting for this for quite a long time. Take larch isten to how the pret framed it earlier. The Prevention Administration designated a billion acres of lands it did so over the loud objections of the people of this state and their elected representatives. Governor, right . The results have been very sad and very predictable. Here and in other affected states we have seen harmful and unnecessary restrictions on hunting, ranching and responsible economic development. Reporter so this executive action the president signed is sure to end up in the courts as well as many past executive actions because the Antiquities Act former president s obama and clinton used to establish bears the president the authority to create a National Monument. It does not give the President Authority to reduce or eliminate a monument. Weve seen a coalition of environmental group, Indigenous People afiling suit. Thank you from salt lake city. Joined with Vice President of the Navajo Nation, attorney general for the Navajo Nation. Thank you to you both. Managed to speak with somebody from the ute tribe in the last hour and said or written this matter brought a number of the tribes together who sometimes dont, havent seen eye to eye on a bunch of things. Jonathan . Absolutely. Thank you, ali, for having us on your show today. You know, a large group of native american tribes, native american nations, came together to protect those lands, those Ancestral Lands of ours. To protect from people coming in and looting, cultural items. Historical items in that area. I mean, one of the things that i want to say is, today marks one week after president trum know, mentioned the pocahontas deal and now were looking at another troubling action by the white house and it just you know, its a sad day. Its a sat day in indian country. A sad day for americans to where, you know, the president says that the law of the land, and Antiquities Act is the law of the land, but hes overstepping his own authority by doing this type of action, and its quite saddening to see this happen today here in the state of utah. But for us, we hold that area as historic. Next year in 2018, ali, is the 150th anniversary of the treaty of 1868, which was signed between the Navajo Nation and the u. S. Government, and we return home. Yep. And the bears ears National Monument there holds a specific time period to where we some of our navajo people never went on this long walk and they hid out in that area and our chief was born and hid out in those areas. So it is time that we say, no more overstepping the authority, and just, you know, not even following the law. Thats what generally happened. The nav hajo nation is going to take action and say no to cover steppi overstepping. And some support of the Navajo Nation and we were uninvited, ali. Trying to indicate there are some native americans in support of this action . Well, its a small minority. You know, when we were talking about, you know letting obama protect this area, we had a large majority of our navajo citizens, and we as a sovereign nation our own Tribal Council approved a resolution saying we want the bears ears designation and out of the six, seven chatters supported the bears ears designation. So to have the optics of this, how the lady there, the native americans there around the president , was just concerning to the Navajo Nation. And let me ask you this. Speaking of objects. You have said that the president should go to those lands. That he wants to rescind the protections over, although hes not calling rescinding protections. Actually somehow painted this offering more protections, but your point, he should go there . Absolutely. You know, hes making this decision. I mean, hes really saying that heaps listening to the locals and, you know, is going to stop these actions taken by far away bureaucrats, but thats exactly what hes doing. You know . He is coming in from washington, d. C. He doesnt even have enough respect to go visit those lands and visit with the people who live in that community or the sovereign nations that call those lands their homelands. He is, you know, completely missing, completely misunderstanding what an Indian Nation is and is ignoring the fact in a we are sovereigns, were governments, and we expect to be engaged on a nationtonation basis and we have treaties, federal law, federal statutes, federal common law that define that relationship and theres absolutely no understanding of that from the actions weve seen from both President Trump as well as secretary sizinke. They think talking to one navajo person constitutes the Navajo Nation and theyre both mistaken. We have those that speak on behalf of our nation and we want the laws respected. Thank you both for your time. Vice president of the Navajo Nation and ethel branch attorney general of the Navajo Nation. Thank you to you both. This conversation will continue. The white house may be trying to get back to normal but the russia investigation is again overshadowing its agenda. Before heading to utah, donald Trump Defends former National Security Michael Flynn for lying to the fbi. I feel very badly. Hes led a very strong life and i feel very badly, john. I will say this Hillary Clinton lied many times to the fbi. Nothing happened to her. Flynn lied, and theyve destroyed his life. I think its a shame. We should note, former fbi director comey testified before congress this summer that Hillary Clinton did not lie to the fbi, and further mud ig waters, the president tweeted this weekend he had had to fire general flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the fbi. That implies the president knew flynn committed a felony when he told then fbi director james comey to go easy on flynn. The white house said this was dictated by this man, john dowd. Kristen well kker to clear this. Trying to argue about the fact john said he wrote the tweet, arguing that the president cannot obstruct justice. Can you explain that . Reporter a controversial argument, ali. Let me try to break it down. Effectively aing under article 2 of the cons stushgs the president cant obstruct justice because hes the chief operating officer. The president cannot obstruct justice because hes the chief Law Enforcement officer under the constitutions article 2 and has every right to express his view of any case. That last part significant, effectively saying whether talking to james comey or whoever right, he has the authority and the ability to have those conversations, because hes the chief Law Enforcement officer. Still all of this has increased scrutiny and the conversation about obstruction. You have a number of ethical lawyers chiming in saying that that is not an accurate reading of the constitutional article 2. That undoubtedly will be debated in the days and weeks to come but this tweet is going to continue to get attention, not only for its substance, but because of that other point you mentioned, ali. The fact that john dowd said hes the one who effectively dictated the contents of the tweet to dan scavino, white house director for media. Kellyanne conway asked who has access to the president s tweets. Take laristen. The lawyers are the ones that understand how to put those tweets together. I was with the president on saturday all day, frankly, and i know that what mr. Dowd says is correct. That what he said is that he put it together and sent it to our director of social media. Reporter and ali, one final point. I asked john dowd if the president in fact signed off on that tweet. No response to that request. No response. Interesting. Kristen welker at the white house. Thanks very much. So can the president , in fact, be prosecuted for obstructing just is . Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz came to his defense this morning. Listen. You cannot charge a president with obstruction of justice for exercising his constitutional power of fire comey and his Constitutional Authority to tell the Justice Department who to investigate who not to investigate. Thats what Thomas Jefferson did, lincoln did, what roosevelt did. We have president s that clearly establish that. So much to dig into here. Im joined by Stanley Pottinger from the Civil Rights Division under nixon and ford administrations, involved in the watergate investigation. So many questions to get at. Tweets, the policy, if someone implies they broke the law in the tweet, how do you prove who tweeted it . Get to the crux of this, that dowd is talking about that a president cannot obstruct justice because of the way in which the constitution describes the role of the president as the countrys chief lawmaker. Hello Supreme Court of the United States. Right. Its not clear, a clear point, from everybodys viewpoint. Its not a clear decision by the courts. So it will be tested if it needs to be tested. Of course, that will only happen if the contest reaches the point where an ob xrukz structistruct is found or reported by mr. Mueller and his staff. Thats something we dont know. There are other subordinate obstructions as well. Can you have one by itself or does it attach to some other substantive crime . Probably not. Probably you can have it stand alone. You certainly can plead guilty to that or be convicted of it. There are all of these different questions rarely taken up by the constitution. By constitutional lawyers because really they dont come up at all. Right. The issue of the tweet is interesting. John dowd said i wrote it. Kristen welker asked, did the president sign off . No answer. Kellyanne conway says, yeah, sent to the media director. Bottom line, john dowd said something in a tweet, putting aside whether or not the president can be prosecuted for this, looks like the president knew that Michael Flynn had lied to the fbi. That would be a serious matter. But we cant make head nor tails out of it, because no one knows where this tweet came from. Is it teat evidence that you knew something . How do you evaluate this . Yeah. First of all, you have the Attorney Client privilege. Its not easy to go in and say, mr. Dowd, mr. Trump, who said what to whom and who approved what, because of the privilege. The other hand, is it possible for mr. Dowd to be called a witness because he is witness to something that apparently came out from the president s hand. A probloint. Can they claim Attorney Client privilege at that point . He may. Maybe not on grounds of fifth amendment but grounds of first amendment. You dont have to talk than or its not intact. I want to read from you articles impeachment of Richard Nixon. In this conduct of the office of the president of the United States richard m. Nixon in violation of are constitutional oath to faithfully execute office of the president of the United States and to the best of his ability preserve, protect, defend the constitution of the United States, this is the interesting part. In violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed prevented obstructed and impeded the administration of justice. Does this set precedent . The idea that the articles of impeachment say that Richard Nixon obstructed justice . Does this negate the argument some have the president cant obstruct justice . Probably. Its a piece of the precedent that will be litigated. The obstruction of justice law also, you may have talked about this before. 18 usc 1503, whoever can corruptly impedes justice or threatening letter or communication attempts to obstruct justice can be guilty of that crime. Most people think that that means you have to have a ministry or intent. Intonight do something wrong. Cant just mess up by accident. Right. Although a reckless at some point recklessness becomes the equivalent of intent. That will be litigated as well, because thats different from what you just talked about with regard to the constitutions provisions on you got two different roads here. Obstruction without impeachment and impeachment which can refer to both. Stan, thanks for being with us. Stanley pottinger, Civil Rights Division uthtder the nixon and ford administrations. Still to come, digging deep into the Senate Tax Bill passed early saturday morning. What parts stay, what goes, who benefits and what this means for your bottom line, all that after the break. 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I remind people the effective rate most Companies Pay tends to be 18. 6 . So weve not eliminate the tax holes. Much to be debated. And proposed the highest tax bracket goes down from 39. 6 to 38. 5 . Thats the marginal amount the wealthiest pay on the highest taxes they pay. Obamacare is another issue. The house bill doesnt touch it but the senate bill abolishes the individual mandate congress estimates that this provision alone is going to cause 13 million more americans to be uninsured by 2027 and premiums would be 10 higher than they would be under current law. Taxpayers will also be able to deduct property, state and local taxes, but the deduction capped at 10,000. Thats in the house bill. The senate bill stops all deductions for state and local income or sales Tax Deductions for individual taxpayers. Critics say it leads basically to a tax increase for many middle class families. Bring in Garrett Haake. Government funding, separate issue entirely, set to expire friday. The day before Senate Minority Chuck Schumer and house leader nancy pelosi agreed to meet with President Trump to discuss the yearend agenda. Didnt talk about this in the last hour. The funding bill. Mitch mcconnell says no chance the government is shutting down. Reporter thats optimistic. Theres always a chance. Look, the fact that the democratic leadership agreed to go back to the white house and continue to negotiate with President Trump has to be looked at as a good sign towards keeping the government open beyond friday. You point out, this meeting is thursday afternoon. That doesnt leave a lot of time for any really indepth negotiations. The feeling on capitol hill is that its looking more likely that what will come out of thursday and friday will be a decision to keep the government open on a shortterm basis what they call a continuing resolution, fund the government for a couple more weeks, and then give all the parties involved time to work out a much bigger yearend deal that could include any number of issues. This is one. Few places have some cards they can actually play knowing that republicans will need them to get almost anything through the senate. Getting that extension leaves time for a bit more negotiation. And we are on the 4th of december, they want this tax plan harmonized and done by the end of the year. Likely . Reporter it is possible. Look, nothing here happens as quickly as the white house wants it to. Thats a Lesson Learned over and over again through this process. However, the effort to harmonize these two bill has been going on and some ways behind the scenes even before we got to this point. Tonight well get the official vote in the house. Form a conference committee. The house pick their teams like in a backyard basketball game. Senate follows shortly thereafter. I expect the bill will probably look a lot more like the senate bill than the house bill to make sure it in fact passes that chamber by a very narrow margin. Thank you, Garrett Haake on capitol hill. And saying this tax plan means a big tax break. And several say thats not the case. President trump and Congressional Republicans have made a lot of promises about their tax plan. Its focused on the middle class. Its not. Wont benefit the rich. It will. Its bad for trumps family fortune. Not even close. They also keep claiming despite the 1. 4 trillion price tag, that the tax cuts will pay for themselves. And even more, they say it will actually help pay down the national debt. How . By boosting Economic Growth so high that government revenues will increase from taxes even as businesses and households pay a smaller share of their incomes to the government. Numerous republicans say that tax cuts need only boost the economy 0. 4 of 1 . How hard can it be . Apparently really hard. Huge changes made to the tax code throughout u. S. History yet no observable shift to longterm growth rates in the last 150 years. Which hovered at an average rate between 1. 8 and 2 growth per year. Dont take our word for it. Studies by the tax policy center, moodys analytics and penns Wharton School of business all found the congressional tax plans will increase u. S. Debt between 1. 3 trillion and 2. 1 trillion over a decade. Even the conservative Tax Foundation in favor of the gop plans estimates between 500 billion and 1 trillion of Additional Debt to a t, all say slashing taxes now while keeping Government Spending at current leveling will only widen the hole in the u. S. Budget. Dont believe them . Try this a poll of 42 leading economists found that not a single one thinks this tax plan will pay for itself. Tax cuts, any tax cuts, sure sound great, but if were going to bust the bank to enact them we should be honest what theyre going to cost us. And goldman released its estimate of the impact of the Senate Version of the tax cut on gdp growth, basically a bit of a bump from the longterm trend which is in the low 2 per year rate. And then the growth reverts back to the trend, possibly even a negative impact after 2020. Thats nowhere close to what the president and republicans keep promising. A different perspective on the facts and figures. Im sure this guy sees things differently than i do, because he always does. Grover nordqvist, president and founder of americans for tax reform, perhaps most prominent and doesnt love it when i say it, but feared antitax advocate in the country. Grover, good to see you. Good to be with you. The Tax Foundation says 500 billion in added deficit. The other studies say 1. 3 trillion to 2. 1 trillion in addition to the deficit. I know you want tax cuts, but are you okay with that kind of price tag . Im fascinated that the party that gave us 800 billion in stimulus to nowhere now cares about the deficit. Very impressive. Not worrying about democrats. What about republicans . Okay. The goal is to keep spending a percentage of gdp down. The dead weight cost of government is how much the government spends. How much of it they take and force, how much they borough is much less important than how much is taken out of the productive economy. Its the total level of spending that we should be focusing on. The deficit is the difference between two very important numbers. How much the government takes, taxes. And how much the government spends. Those are both very important numbers. The difference is not particularly important. They used to be a story, that the government borrowed 1 billion, it was gone from the American Economy because in somebodys fantasy, we had a closed economy, and you couldnt borrow 1 billion from people who lived in other countries. Thats nonsense. But thats what drove a lot of the economymetric models. To this day some still say were half closed. Somehow the chinese can only give half a billion dollars if we were a good place to invest in. You come by this honestly. Right . For years ive interviewed you and your message is remarkably consistent. I found interesting in this, this discussion how the Corporate Tax rates. The permanent part as opposed to initial rates wont go away and every republican i talk to says were going to make the individual tax cuts permanent anyway. So even these estimates of what this is going to do to the deficit could be much higher, because everybody is saying were just going to kick that individual tax cut thing down the road . Yeah. Not a secret. All of the tax cuts in these bills are going to be made permanent. Just as the bush tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 were extended and made permanent. These are not this is understood. We had to fit this in to the senate rules, which are silly, but there are senate rules, and so to get the bill passed live within the little box invented. The individual rates will be permanent, going to expensing permanent, tax credit for dependents made permanent. So disingenuous left wing groups go, oh, dont look at the numbers until 2027 when some of these things disappear and then say, look at that. Well never get there. I dont do that. No, you dont, but the guys that every year the guys who do the calculations unfortunately, New York Times and Washington Post have said that. And had this conversation with Kevin Hassett at the white house. Why the argument in a place we have massive corporate income. Record profit gains. We have record stock prices. We have recordlow interest rates. Why are we thinking that when Companies Get this, this rate cut and im not arguing they should or shouldnt, but if they do somehowmakes it into the pockets of americans . Recent history and history suggests Corporate Tax cuts work their way do dividends and shareholder payouts otherwise. Not income increases . One of the things that matters with the corporate rate reduction is that were at 35 . The business tax in the United States on corporate right. What is the effective rate . 18. 6 . Thats what i use. You make decisions on the marginal rate, the marginal dollar, you know what you pay. You can make decisions based on that. General electric you and i agree is not paying 35 . I dont know about general electric, general motors. Youre looking at all the retail guys paying very close to that. A number of companies, too. The reason you have this differential, some Companies Pay lower average rates, because their earning their money outside the United States and its staying there. Were taking the rate down to 20 . Youll see a lot of the money that can come back. Interesting question, is it 1 trillion or 2 trillion that co come back . Say a Company Brings the money back and think the best way invest in itself. Buy their own bonds. I want to be invested in a company who thinks the best way to invest 1 billion is in its self, not somewhere else. If they do, shareholders get that money, reinvest it someplace else. When you bring this capital in, it doesnt get destroyed, doesnt disappear. I understand. Its not a destruction issue. Its a circulation issue. You and i book it now. Figure out a time to talk. Have that conversation about how you get the money into the economy in a way that works well as opposed to just makes rich people richer . Say that for another time. Always good to have you on, grover. Thank you. Good to be with you. President and founder of the americans for tax reform. 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What are the chances he breaks with tradition and is moving the u. S. Embassy to jerusalem . The short of it, of course, if i could predict what donald trump would do tomorrow you wouldnt be sitting here wastes your tie with people. I wouldnt be with you. He may recognize jerusalem in some formulation as the capital of jerusalem and may not choose to move the embassy. Try to thread the needle in some sort. Maybe they havent quite decided on the modalities and getting input, some negative from Foreign Countries including in the middle east, but something threading the needle allowing him to say he fulfilled the fledge, recognized the capital but leave the door open for negotiations with palestinians, Jared Kushner said again is central to everything hes doing and leave the opportunity for cooperation with some of the arab allies. Very close to this administration. The foreign minister of jordan, american ally, ally in the fight against terror saying it would be bad news if you do it. Palestinians certainly dont like this idea. Is there a danger particularly in light of what been going on in the middle east with saudi and the things its doing in saudi arabia and . Nemann and in lebanon and the destabilization in syria and iraq is there a danger this could play wrongly and set another fire off in the middle east . Absolutely. I grew up in jerusalem and love it. One place where rationality doesnt always apply its my home town. This is definitely playing with fire. Nothing may happen. Maybe it blows through like many other crises. One topic that can really blow things up its this. For the palestinians, vof cours, they see it as their future capital, at least East Jerusalem and jordanians, too. Its true also across the arab and muslim world. Let me be clear, though. I think the American Embassy should be in west jerusalem in the context of israel. Its absurd context of a peace deal are the magical words. Lots of things would change in the middle east in the context of a peace deal. Thats the issue. Do you think this is a precursor . Do you think Jared Kushner in his talks with the saudis, latenight talked with mohammed salman, could that be happening with Jared Kushner as opposed to the cumbersome thing these peace deems tend to be or the cumbersome work that goes into them . Jared kushner yesterday said, theres no chance, but theyre used to doing things against all chances. Unfortunately im one of the people who this the chances are very low. For a variety of Different Reasons on both sides. Israeli, palestinian and other. I should say i really hope im wrong and its possible. We were wrong on many other things and i hope this is one of them. I wish them godspeed, no matter what i think of the administration and other aspects. I should say the obstacles are very serious. One new thing in this approach and important. The administration is working outside in. Working with arab allies especially saudi arabia to try to create new atmosphere. There is room for opportunity there, important stuff that can be done. I fear its probably short of a peace deal and i worry some of these step es in the short term could undermine the whole thing in the longer one. I hone youre wrong on that, too. But i think you might be right. Good to talk to you. Thank you for being with us, with the brookings institution, director for the center for middle east policy. Its official. President trump endorsed roy moore which has days to go before alabamas general election. Democrat doug jones and roy moore are in a close fight. Will the president s stamp of approval make any difference at all . We go to birmingham after the break. Fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. Fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. Im glad my doctor prescribed lyrica. 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Moosh fre denies these allegations and toted president officially endorsed roy moore and refusal to give one vote for massive tax votes is why we need republican roy moore to win in alabama. We need his vote v. A. , Second Amendment and more. No to jones, a Pelosi Schumer puppet. Moore tweeted the president told him, go get em, roy. Nbcs von hilliard joins me from birmingham, alabama. Vaughn, we keep talking about the vote and polls being close. Do we actually have accurate polling down there right now for a special election . Reporter ali, i can tell you after being on the ground here more than three weeks now. Im not going much off the polls. One from the Washington Post showed 3 undecided. Going around talking to folks on the ground, its very much up in the air. Particularly talking to Republican Voters still questioning whether theyll go to the polls at all. I think the significance of President Trumps tweets and his endorsement of roy moore is significant because this is a republican candidate that hasnt had much on his side ever since these allegations have come out. For a republican having to actually face a challenge like Democrat Doug Jones is significant. A democrat hasnt won a statewide race here since 2006. But it was interesting when looking at what donald trump is saying. Ive heard many alabama republicans early on when the allegations first came out iterate the point that donald trump was making. That roy moore should focus more on keeping this republican seat. You saw the tweets he said focusing on the votes. Roy moore has outside of donald trump, not like he has richard shelby, the other alabama senator on his side. Shelby said just this last week he voted for another republican. Governor is not out. One who has not had a campaign rally. Hasnt talked to national or local press since the allegations came out. A man who hasnt engaged in debate harks been missing in action and facing a serious democratic challenger who to note has been out across the state the last ten days, ali. Doug jones had not only Campaign Events but also taken press questions. We were with him friday at a fish fry in montgomery. At a Christmas Parade in selma and yesterday in the town of tuscaloosa, he held another fish fry. Vaughn, i mean, interesting that it doesnt look like much of a campaign. Not phone banking, not canvassing but making some random appearances and having some conversations. Vaughn, thanks very much. Vaughn hilliard in birmingham, alabama. Former access hollywood anchor billy bush is reaffirming once again it was Donald Trumps voice on the infamous 2005 tape he brags about crude behavior against women. Of course he said it. We laughed along, hypothetical hot air. We know better. President trump is delving in revisionist history. This oped comes after a report last week the president told at least one u. S. Senator and others he doubted the voice on the tape was his, even though he apologized for the remarks last year. A former Campaign Aide also confirmed its authenticity. The president made a, a tape where he acknowledged having the locker room talk, and i think that thats where it ends with him. It was all about the talk. I think this is behind the president and we really want to move forward. Billy bush left nbc news today show last october after the tape revealed he laughed along with the crude joke at the time and called the women acc e accusing the president culture warriors at the forefront of necessary change. The president denies all allegations against him and we note access hollywood is owned and distributed by Nbc Universal which is the Parent Company of both nbc news and msnbc. Coming up, war games in south korea trigger warnings from the north of a nuclear war. 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This is the largest deployment of stealth fighters to south korea but these exercises are different in other ways, as well. North korea describing this as a grave provocation, escalating the situation to the brink of nuclear war and going on to say at a time, and this is a quote, insane President Trump is running wild. But as you mention, this is an annual exercise. The air force says is not in response to any incident or provocation. Around 12,000 u. S. Military personnel, air force, navy and marine corps are taking part. 230 planes, including 24 u. S. Stealth jets. So, yeah, this is a substantially increased exercise compared with previous years. But it comes at the same time as the president s National Security adviser is warning that north korea is inching towards war. Its immensely important that we Work Together with all of our allies, partners, everyone internationally to convince kim jongun that the continued pursuit of these capabilities is a dead end for him and his regime. Last weeks north korean rocket test was the most powerful ever launched. According to analysts. So they now have the potential to reach the continental United States, pretty much most of the United States, and that is worrying u. S. Officials. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has asked the pentagon to consider the 28,000 members out of south korea. News of a major deal in the health industry. Youre watching msnbc. No, thanks , santa. I got this. Santa uh, it looks a little tight. Perfect fit. Santa needs an f150. Thats ford, americas best selling brand. Hurry in today for 0 financing for 72 months across the full line up of ford cars, trucks and suvs. For a limited time, get an additional 1,000 cash back on top of 0 financing for 72 months. Get these exclusive offers during the ford year end sales event. Get these exclusive offers its whats insident the person who opens it. Give ancestrydna, the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions. 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Both the dow and s p did hit record highs on the first day of trading since the Senate Narrowly Passed the republican bill over the weekend. Shares of companies that are going to benefit the most from lower tax rates like banks have led those gains. The dow is going to close still above 24,000. And still at a record later on today. And thats it. That wraps up the busy two hours for me. Ill see you right back here tomorrow at 11 00 with Stephanie Ruhle and at 3 00 p. M. Eastern. You can always find me on social media. Deadline white house with Nicolle Wallace starts right now. Hi, everyone. Its 4 00 in new york. The president started his day today with new reaction to fridays bombshell news that his former National Security adviser pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators. I feel badly for general flynn. I feel very badly. Hes led a very strong life, and i feel very badly, john. I will say this, Hillary Clinton lied many times to the fbi. Nothing happened to her. Flynn lied and theyve destroyed his life. I think its a shame. Hillary clinton on the fourth of july weekend, went to the fbi, not under oath. It was the most incredible thing anyone as ever