Im not sure where dr. Redfield got his particular time table, but its not based on those that are closest to the process. So meanwhile an unusually sparse panel of the nations intel chiefs testified at the white houses worldwide threats hearing where fbi director chris wray, one of the two officials who showed up, did not minutes his words about the foreign threat to the 2020 election. Weve seen very active, very active efforts by the russians to influence our election in 2020 from the foreign influence side of things. Now as of this hour more than 198,000 americans have died of the coronavirus. A number the president is down playing. Heres what he said last night and Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumers response. If you take the blue states out, were at a level that i dont think anybody in the world would be at. What kind of person looks at the number of dead citizens in the country he is supposed to lead and in an attempt to glamorize himself dismisses every american who died in a state that didnt support the president politically. What a isgrace. Joining me now is political Senior Writer jake sherman and boston globe writer Kimberly Atkins great to have both of you with us kimberly, the Washington Post noting that more than 90,000 covid deaths occurred in red states if that were the u. S. Total, we would have the second highest number of deaths behind only brazil, undermining what the president was trying to say yesterday. How does this lineup with the president saying he upplays the threat it just further examly f emai fies the problem the president has with facts hes saying this is really not a threat to those who support him and they shouldnt be worrying about it as you point out, thats not true in states run by republicans, as well as democrats, we have seen this virus having a devastating effect not only on the health of americans, but also on the econo economy. The coronavirus doesnt have a political affiliation, but the president is trying to play to his base and downplay what is the biggest hurtle to his reelection, which is his handling of the pandemic and its effects. Jake, the president s allies and supporters hit the air waves to try to discredit dr. Redfi d dr. Redfield senator Kevin Mccarthy reacts. Watch this. If i just take the words of the cdc and the president , the president is right one of those two individuals had more information than the other. That was the president quite a statement there to hear Kevin Mccarthy say he would sign with the president over one of the countrys top scientists. What are republicans telling you about their view of the cdc and is it possible dr. Redfield doesnt have the support to remain there kevin is a close ally of the president and has been since the beginning of his campaign, his term this is somebody who is as close to the president as any member of congress in either chamber and a top adviser. This is not surprising the Trump Administration has broadly speaking sought to discredit across the board all of the senior medical officials when they dont lineup to the reality that the president is trying to put forth. Youve see that with dr. Fauci and now dr. Redfield the real risk of this from a substantive point of view is we would like the American Public, we meaning everybody, we would hope the American Public has trust in senior medical officials. Theyre right now polls keep showing theyre among the most trusted people in our government, these nonpartisan medical officials. To the extent you hear a drum beat of criticism from these people, listen, the vaccine when it comes out is going to need to be consumed by republicans and democrats. If its not by consumed by one party or the other, its not going to be effective. You would hope that members of congress would be speaking nicely and with some gusto about our senior medical professionals. Lets talk about the intersection of politics and Public Health. The president said wednesday pennsylvania is remaining in lockdown to hurt his reelection chances. How, jake, are those comments different than what we heard come out of Michael Caputo who accused cdc scientists of the same thing its a bit of revisionist history. Republicans by and large were supportive of these measures and said stay home and help control the virus at the time. There were people who did not say that all that said, youre now seeing a rewriting of history for those of us like you and kimberly who have been following this so closely and have been living this, we know the reality is a little different than whats being said. Kimberly, i wanted to play for you what bill barr said on a podcast warning about what would happen if the president didnt reelected. I think we were getting a position where we were going to find ourselves committed to the social list path. Thats the nations top Law Enforcement official historically not supposed to get involved in the president ial election hes supposed to be above that here he is weighing in on it how do you see those comments are those comments dangerous for the future of our republic absolutely. Theres a reason why the attorney general is supposed to be removed from politics he is, as you stated, the top Law Enforcement official charged with enforcing the laws of the United States, regardless of who breaks them, even if its someone within the administration thats why we have investigations that can touch the white house as well as any other citizen in this country. To have him acting speaking and acting in his official capacity as some sort of campaign surrogate for President Trump is extremely dangerous were even seeing in that message him having just as difficult relationship with facts and truth as the president does when he was speaking for example of a nationwide lockdown being almost as big of a breach on freedom as slooavery. Comparing slavery to anything is offensive. There was no nationwide lockdown he compared it to house arrest that didnt happen it happened on a local and state level. Even then governors and local officials confessed there was really no enforcement mechanism. They were asking people to stay home if they could to stop the spread of a virus. Hes making up something that didnt even happen in order to stay on the same political message as donald trump. Thats very dangerous. Not to mention the jawdropping comments he made about prosecutors at the department of justice equating them to preschoolers jake sherman, Kimberly Atkins thank you both. The president is being contradicted by another top official in his government lets play what the president said last night about the upcoming election. Our biggest threat to this election is governors from opposing parties controlling ballo ballots, to me thats a much bigger threat that foreign countries. Thats the president. In sworn testimony before the house fbi director Christopher Wray stood by intelligence that russia is trying to interfere and targeting joe biden. The Intelligence Communitys consensus is that russia continues to try to influence our elections, primarily through what we would call maligned foreign influence, as opposed to what we saw in 2016 where there was also an effort to target election infrastructure, cyber targeting. Weve not seen that second part yet. The Intelligence Community has assessed this publicly to primarily denigrate Vice President biden and what the russians see as an antirussian establishment. Joining me now is congresswoman karen bass of california shes chair of the Congressional Black Caucus thank you so much for joining us let me get your reaction there to the threats that we are facing in this election cycle and the persistent claims of fraud coming out from the white house that are unsubstantiated i think its just really sad. He is doing everything he possibly can to frighten, to confuse and to just create dissention before our election we know hell go to incredible lengths. What was shocking to me was the post office. In the midst of the pandemic, in few days there will be over 200,000 people who died in the pandemic hes so afraid of losing that he wants people to risk their lives or stay home thats the purpose of the dissention hes attempting to sew. This morning former dni dan coats wrote an oped calling on congress to create a supremely high level Bipartisan Commission to oversee the election to give americans confidence in the outcome. Senator Ron Johnson Heald a closed door hearing saying hell have former fbi director james comey testify on the mueller probe. My question to you, congresswoman, can we get back to a more balanced, cooperative approach to intelligence the way that dan coats is suggesting is that possible in this Current Congress i dont think it is i read his editorial i think its wonderful its a wonderful idea. I would add that we need International Observers for this election ive gone to kenyan i think we could use that here i support whats in his opinion, but i dont believe you can do that now you have one party that doesnt want people to have access to vote again, i would cite the example of the post office theyre always talking about voter fraud. You know in 2018 the most notorious case of voter fraud came from republicans. They established a commission around voter fraud they found it didntexist. The commission fell apart. All these tactics in my opinion are just versions of voter suppression. Do you feel were going to have a free election European Countries have expressed concerns about the process. How do you feel about the process ahead of the election . First of all at the end of the day i think the ball is in the court of the activists and the organizers its our responsibility to make sure that people know how to vote and this is the first year i can recall where you actually dont you shouldnt think of voting as november 3rd you need to vote at home and send it in early we actually need to have a plan to vote across the country because every state is different. I think that is sad. I think unless we acted proactively and were aggressive about it, i dont think this would be a Fair Election theyre making every effort possible hes so desperate to win. He knows hes losing in the polls. Out of his desperation hes attempting every possible road block to win its really sad. Let me switch gears and get your thoughts on the attorney general, bill barr hes under a lot of fire after denouncing Wearing Masks and lockdown mandates and even compared coronavirus restrictions to enslavement in this country watch this. You know, putting a National Lockdown stay at home order is like house arrest. Other than slavery which was a different kind of restraint, its the greatest intrusion on Civil Liberties in american history. It is worth noting you know. Its worth noting that there are americans alive today who the government jailed because of their japanese heritage. How do you think this hurt the Justice Department he was clear from the beginning he viewed himself as Donald Trumps personal attorney i dont consider him the attorney general the purpose of his statement is really just to enflame racial tension. Theyre running the 2020 version of the great segregationist George Wallace they just resurrected that campaign the idea of diminishing the horrors of 256 years of rape, torture, murder and the sale of human beings to compare that to Public Health officials trying to save lives is ridiculous. Its consistent with this administrations policies of recently canceling all the Educational Programs designed to increase racial awareness and understanding. So fanning racial tension, fanning the flames of racism is something that this campaign has done from the very beginning you know what though, in all their efforts to divide us, i believe weve come together. We are 46 days away and i have faith in the American People that were not going to be fooled by this. I was going to say if it wasnt just troubling what the attorney general had to say, the response from those in the audience who clapped to that statement as well should be raising some serious eyebrows. Congresswoman bass, thank you for your time. Thank you. Breaking news weve just got in another senator now exposed to the coronavirus and not traveling with the president to wisconsin. Well have the details about that. Overseas australia is having a record low flu season. 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He was scheduled to travel with President Trump and attend an event with him tonight he will no longer be doing that. The senator is in quarantine where hell stay until september 29th lets get to the latest facts in the coronavirus pandemic mayor bill de blasio announced that inperson education is being delayed for the second time the city will begin bringing back students on a rolling basis based upon their grade starting with the youngest students. The Supreme Court begins its term next month. The Court Building has been closed since march because of the pandemic there is mounting pressure on California Governor Gavin Newsom to reopen theme parks from the cities that rely heavily on tourism he said hell make announcement on that soon. The ceo of moderna said his company should have enough data by november to know whether or not their vaccine is working. A new study from the cdc shows that social distancing measures may be keeping numbers of the flu low australia just finished its flu season and saw a historic low. Joining me from melbourne, australia is sarah james australia seen as a guinea pig for how the flu season will play out in the United States its been a barometer for health officials. How did officials deal with the flu and the coronavirus there and what can be applied in the United States . Ayman, one of the things i would say is it helped they barely had a flu season. The Top Health Official here in melbourne said the numbers plunged 300 fold they didnt have to worry about that they had to worry mostly about covid. Health officials tell me its been the Silver Lining of the covid19 pandemic, that the very measures they put in place to try to stop the spread of the pandemic stopped the flu in its tracks that saved hundreds of lives ill give an example here. 61,000 cases thats how many cases there were of the flu in august of 2019 this year only 107 36 deaths this year. That compares to more than 600 last year. A huge difference. What about that change why did that happen . What they say here, i talked to a flu expert who is one of the people who reports the numbers to the World Health Organization she said its social distancing. Its also the fact theres been less travel and people are washing their hands. The cdc is seeing early signs of something that looks very similar. We have now the lowest spring, summer transition of flu weve ever seen. Why is that . You know what blocks flu transmission masks masks, social distancing, hand washing, being smart about crow crowds. So the fact is that weve had many people take the vaccine this year, ayman so few cases of the flu we cant assess how well that vaccine is working. One thing they can say, social distancing, whether talking about covid19 or the flu, thats something you can do to keep yourself from getting sick. Ayman . Sarah james, thank you. With the flu season upon us in the United States theres many questions over how the pandemic may slicollide with the flu. Weve been answering your questions about that here to help answer some of them is the dean of Public Health dr. Aja. Whens the best time to get a flu shot i got my flu shot in august of 2020 i read it might not last through the flu season is this true ayman, there is some evidence that the flu shot doesnt last long that evidence is not definitive. Were working on how to figure out how to make it longer lasting. It should last four to six mont months, but near the tail end of the winter may be less effective. Probably worth being extra careful during that time. As we go into flu season can the flu and covid19 coexist . Theoretically it can. Theres nothing about having one that means you cant have the other. Its extremely rare. Part of the reason its extremely rare is there is some evidence when you are infected with one you have this general antiviral response that may make it harder to get another. We havent seen a lot of cases of people getting infected with both theres no guarantee if you have one you wont have the other its good to avoid either one and youll avoid both. Lets talk about the precautions that have been put in place what do you make of this new report from the cdc that the flu might not spread as easily this season because of the coronavirus precautions that people are taking . Ive been pretty optimistic about that, hopeful about that watching the data coming out of australia has given me a lot of hope the preliminary early data from the cdc about the u. S. 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A developing situation in kentucky protesters gathered outside the State Capitol denouncing Andy Beshears coronavirus restrictions the kentucky Supreme Court heard arguments on the legality of his response the state attorney general argued beshear overstepped his authority. The governor issued executive orders like a mask wearing mandate to stop the spread of covid in his state joining me now is nbcs kyle perry. Kyle, what are you hearing from those in the crowds . Reporter a lot of people here dont want masks at all they dont want any restrictions this is a democratic governor in a very red state the Republican Attorney general is basically suing the governor. Were talking about limiting the number of kids who can go to daycare, making masks mandatory across the state listen to some of the opinions we got earlier today the unconstitutional overreach by the executive branch im not against masks. Im against enforcing them the masks dont work. The covid stuff, its not deadly its a scam. Im tired of the agenda crammed down our throats im a liberty loving, jesus loving citizen i want my country back this election is freedom versus sociali socialism. Reporter masks are not a scam they do work if you listen to medical professionals. It gives you the ideas of the arguments coming out here. One of the arguments being heard i want people to know the discussion taking place. There was a lot of talk out here if joe biden is elected hes going to force all americans to get a vaccine and it has people very upset these are the discussions were seeing a few weeks before the election ayman . Kyle, thank you tonight the Louisville Council is set to vote on a no confidence resolution for mayor greg fisher. There are several reasons listed, specifically the investigation of Breonna Taylors killing and the protests that have followed since. An amended resolution may be proposed today that remove calls for fisher to resign and lay out a road map for restoring public trust. 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They were thinking about moving this boat to gulf shore because figured they were safer here and now its somewhere under this messy bay water. I would add its not just the marina, ayman. I walked down the main streets and talked to Business Owners who have been devastated by this juan manual moved to pensacola and this is what happened. Heres what he had to say. Well, because of covid unfortunately we had to shut down i had a Catering Company and a small shop in d. C. We moved everything here to start again our own business we were planning on opening on tuesday, the inauguration of the business with the hurricane unfortunately we had to close. We lost everything no reridfrigeration and no freezers, so we lost product. Reporter hardship experienced on main streets, on docks. Governor ron desantis providing an update as we speak. Last we heard there were 600 some storms, but not one report yesterday. Ayman . Sam, thank you as always. 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These are favorable conditions for firefighters if this was a normal fire season, there would be more containment on this fire it was previously 6 its now reduced to 3 as the fire has expanded. Because resources are so limited firefighters are having a real problem getting into what has become a very in accessible fire which is good for the fact that its not necessarily bearing down on homes as we speak, but it could it has so much room to expand that firefighters have to play whack a mole theyre doing it with limited resources because firefighters are spread across california and others are deployed to other places that are burning. This is extremely unusual for fire season. Its the primary reason there are so many fires burning out of control when you factor in Climate Change and how much vegetation on a fire like this has room to keep chewing and chewing. Thats what firefighters are dealing with right now, trying to save as many homes as they can. Ayman . Steve, thanks. 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Pennsylvanias state Supreme Court ruled the green partys candidate for president and Vice President will not appear on the general election ballot finding they failed to follow appropriate procedures, filing affidavits and paperwork post master louis dejoy joins a Conference Call with the nations top Election Officials to hear their concerns about Postal Service delivery. A report from Senate Democrats finds that dejoys policies delayed about 7 of the countrys mail this summer in new jersey the Trump Campaign is asking judges to stop the mailin ballots count until the court is settle. Its the latest in the Trump Campaigns fight with Governor Phil Murphy mandating the 2020 election be conducted largely through mailin ballots. President trump is heading to wisconsin for a Campaign Rally it marks his third visit there since august as he tries to lockdown the swing state, one he narrowly won in 2016 joining me now Steve Kornacki and author of finding latinx. Steve, you have some new numbers that suggest which way wisconsin could go this year a lot of eyes on this state. What can you tell us wisconsin, minnesota, a lot of demographic similarity there. This is the arcverage of everything were seeing in wisconsin, a 7point lead for biden over trump whats going into this is interesting. A lot of polling in wisconsin with the president , talking about this issue of law and order, the events in kenosha, what trump pulled off in 2016. This was from a poll from the New York Times this week two things they found a plurality of voters in wisconsin believe that joe bidens position on defunding the police is he supports. Biden says i dont support defunding the police the president s message is he does and a plurality of voters believe that heres what trump is running up against in wisconsin heres another question, kind of along similar lines. Do you think that donald trump has encouraged violence or discouraged violence in wisconsin a majority, 52 , say the president has encouraged violence if the trump folks see an opportunity in this number with biden up here, the opportunity might be blunted by some of the opinions of trump and his leadership 7point lead overall for biden in wisconsin in minnesota this is the average of the polls minnesota was a clinton state in 2016 it was close it was a clinton state in 2016 the average right now is a double digit advantage for biden over trump. Steve, stay with me paula, the president spoke at the National Archives and claim that schools and media are a wash in propaganda. The left wing cultural revolution is designed to overthrow the American Revolution the left has warped, distorted and defiled the american story with deceptions, falsehoods and lies paula, thats quite an incendiary message there what do you make of it it hasnt been resonating for him in the polls. It doesnt resonate we know one thing about donald trump. One of the reasons why were losing people to covid19, one of the reasons why family are dying is because of the misinformation the president put out there. Hes created these false illusions in a lot of peoples head he calls joe biden a communist he says covid19 is a hoax its not resonating because at the end of the day what is in peoples minds and voters minds is who is the person who will make me safer in this country . Who can i survive under . People in wisconsin know it wont be under donald trump. People are going towards joe biden. They understand at the end of the day this election is a matter of survival as much as he tries to put this message out there, it wont work. Steve, i have to ask you about another state. The sun belt state of arizona. What are you finding there on the senate race side between mark kelly and Martha Mcsally and the president ial race . Arizona a trump state in 2016 this is a monmouth poll just out today in arizona biden is ahead by 4 points, 48 to 44 what is driving that advantage it was a 3. 5 win there in 2016 lets compare three big groups in arizona in 2016 white voters without a degree, big margin for trump white voters with a degree trump won narrowly this added up to a trump vict y victory. Trump is now trailing in the polls. What has changed there it is. Donald trump bigger advantage with white voters without a College Degree from a 6point advantage to double digit deficit think of Maricopa County and the suburbs. Ivanka trump was in that state yesterday. Joe biden has yet to travel there in person despite the positive numbers in some perspective creating a vacuum that trump and his allies have sought to fill. What do you make of the state of that race between the numbers we saw from steve and the fact that ivanka trump is heading there to narrow that gap . When he sees that hes losing, he sees states like arizona and nevada, he sees an opening. He sees the opening because of young latino men donald trump is not going to win the latino view. He wants to go for a few he won almost 30 in 2016. Around 42 of young latino men are approving of donald trump in arizona. Over to nevada, 45 of young latino men or just latino men in general approved of donald trump compared to 20 of latinas he sees an opportunity. Well see how it plays out. Thank you for breaking it down for us that wraps it up for me. Ill see you tomroorw at 3 00 p. M. Eastern deadline white house starts after this quick break alright, i brought in ensure max protein to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you dont. [grunting noise] ill take that. Woohoo 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. With nutrients to support immune health. Ensure max protein. 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