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jay sekulow on abc yesterday. >> would that meeting constitute a violation of the law? and what you have is a situation -- and i've said this well over a year. you have to look at what laws, rules and regulation statutes are purportedly violated here. >> he's been saying that for well over a year. well over a year ago, he said the opposite about that meeting in trump tower. remember, it was all about adoptions. i didn't hear anybody talk about babies this weekend. and there are some potentially relevant laws. for example, u.s. code of federal regulations. quote, a foreign national shall not directly or indirectly make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation in connection with any federal, state or local election. and, quote, no person shall knowingly solicit accept or
receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by this section. of course, the president is right that opposition research is done all the time. the potential crime is getting that research from a foreign national like the russians who attended that meeting. and legal experts have argued that dirt on hillary clinton could be considered a thing of value under this statute. as for whether anyone, quote, knowingly accepted it, we should look at the june 2016 e-mail from goldstone. the publicist who set up the meeting. in which he wrote, quote, the crown prosecutor of russia offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate hillary clinton and her dealings with russia and will be very useful to a father. don jr. wrote back, quote, if that's what you say, i love it. in the second part of the president's tweet, he insists the meeting went nowhere. seemingly indicating that because of that, nothing illegal could have happened.
it's the same defense we heard from his son last year. >> there's nothing there. it's a follow up. there was some puffery to the e-mail. perhaps to get the meeting to make it happen. and, you know, in the end there was some probably bait and switch about what it was really supposed to be about. so, you know, there is nothing there. >> puffery, bait and switch. but here's the thing. if you're going to argue conspiracy, the agreed upon crime doesn't actually have to take place. you can be convicted of a conspiracy to commit murder. for example, without actually killing someone. all you need to provide is prove conspiracy is an agreement between two or more people, an unlawful objective an avert act to try and reach that objective. so a meeting certainly could qualify. and we know at this point there have been many lies told about why this meeting took place. i want to go to nbc's peter alexander in berkeley heights, new jersey. what do we make about the president's tweets over the
stops he's going to be hosting over the next several months. this meeting was significant for a variety of reasons. one is if the president met privately with hope hicks, that could be problematic. and the reason why the special counsel would want to find out details. did she coordinate with the president so they could have their stories straight? before he spoke to mueller, either in the form of orl al or written questions. we reached out to the white house for new any details. broadly, about the president's frustrations, we've seen the frustrations. recently saying he's rightfully frustrated by what they like to describe as the fake news media right now. he also perhaps appears a bit fearful amid new reports that he is worried that his son, donald trump jr., may have, perhaps not on purpose, he suggests, walked in to some form of legal jeopardy. the don jr. could face real
repercussions, consequences for hosting that meeting with those ruckuses back at trump tower last year. the president suggesting there's nothing to it. basically saying it's fake news reporting. saying it's a complete fabrication that recent report over this weekend. but the bottom line is we have been witnessing him while on vacation, hardly in vacation mode, lashing out increasingly frequently. the pace of his mistruths or lies has been growing in recent weeks and months. appears something in the president's head, as one person said to me last week, this is something in his head, this russia topic, and he can't erase it. >> the lies or mistruths might work for his base or republicans who want air cover here. the question we need to dig into is was the law broken. because if it does, it don't matter how popular you are. i want to bring in my panel, kim wha waley, a professor at the
university baltimore school of law. excellent table this morning. kim, to you first, bottom line this, did djtj, donald trump jr., break the law by taking the meeting? >> you did a terrific job laying out the law. i start teaching my students in a couple weeks and i couldn't even do it as well as you did. we have a code of federal regulations but a united states statute passed three different times that basically says we don't want foreign nationals mucking around in our elections. it's very broad. it does not require that they actually achieve some kind of benefit from a foreigner. soliciting, meaning trying to get something of benefit from a foreign national is verboten, it's against the the law. so that's one thing. the second thing, you mentioned conspiracy. robert mueller is already indicted. multiple members of the russian intelligence community for hacking into servers and
stealing voter information to the extent to which that conspiracy could be added to. we have a potential conspiracy crime. we have potential obstruction of justice because we have stuff that was covered up. we have a potential perjury charge. so there's a broad range of wrongdoing here. the real question is, what are we going to do about it. jeck sekulow said is there a crime. well, we're answering the question. i think yes. and then what's going to happen about it? is the american public going to tolerate this? we've got this level of wrongdoing at the highest echelons of the office, which quo to the heart of our democracy, and people haare shrugging and i think it's dangerous to continue on this path. >> why would the president be doing this? if it's about popularity and his base or the media? the russia investigation isn't winning trump any votes and it's not losing trump any votes. people feel the way they feel about it. but at the very least what he did this weekend over twitter
could put him in greater legal jeopardy, so why do that? >> because it was stupid. >> technically speaking. because it was stupid. i got it. >> look, you can't always seek explanations for the president's behavior and some form of higher rationality. i mean, there is clearly a pneumonic tick going on here. he is fulminating. obsessing his mind. this is the risk for any administration, a president whose every stray thought goes to twitter. some i think clearly amount to attempts to obstruct justice. he is digging a legal hole for himself that's going to be very deep. the issue, however, is this. i agree with every word that kim said. and you really did lay out the legal facts beautifully. but here's the other detail. bob mueller, according to the justice department regulations, cannot indict the president. so the issue ends up being a
political issue. would bob mueller's, a report from the special counsel lead republicans in congress to conclude that they have no recourse other than the constitutional one to impeach and convict the president for high crimes and misdemeanors? so if there is a higher ra rationality at play here, and there's always questionable with trump, is he is speaking politically to other republicans and the republican base, not playing the legal game with the special counsel. >> okay, so those other republicans who understand the legal game. >> right. >> what is more important to them? robert mueller's report or how the public reads the president's misinformation? >> it depends where you are as a republican. if you're in a safe seat, all you care about is making sure the president's safe. if you're on the line, you may be facing a blue wave, somebody connected to this one way or another, you're concerned about what the president is saying. the president -- it's not just sort of the ure neurotic ticks.
he is consistently conflating political and legal problems which puts everybody who's trying to defend him in trouble. remember, the key thing about the whole adoptions, adoptions are connected to the -- >> it was never really -- even when they said it was about adoptions, adoptions are codes. >> exactly, exactly. like saying i'm going shopping for a car and i'm a getaway driver. to the degree that also leads to look like it was collusion, like they were getting material help, that's where the president gets everybody in trouble. >> speaking of everybody in trouble, let's stick with don jr. kim, you've written in the past that mueller could use don jr. as a way to get to the president. but don jr. ain't your normal con si c conciliatory to the president. >> well, he's not protected by the clause. there's doj guidance that
titled, quote, trump will have bled on his hands. why he is responsible for something someone else might do. walk us through this. that's a heavy -- those are heavy words. >> at the end of may, i wrote a column saying that abc was right to cancel "roseanne" because of a racist tweet. i received a voice mail the next day. a man who sounded to me like white male, late middle aged, slightly southern accent, fantasizing about me and other journalists being killed, being murdered, by people with ar-15s. then that ended in a racist rant with the "n" word used i think about a dozen times, then "have a nice day lover" and he clicked off. that is the third time since trump -- the trump phenomenon began that i have been violently threatened by a trump -- by
someone who's clearly a trump supporter. >> should also remind our audience that you're conservative. >> well, yeah, but foot a fnot the president. the only thing i've been similarly threatened is by someone who later went to jail for supporting hezbollah. so we take this very seriously. now, i put that voice mail to one side for four weeks and then the killing at annapolis, at the capital gazette, five journalists murdered there. then you have the president going on about fake news. i think when the president goes to his rallies and starts screaming about fake news, the most he wants is for people to give cnn's jim acosta a middle finger. that's the emotion. but if 1,000 people are giving jim acosta the middle continuing, some subset of that are people like my caller. some subset of that are people willing to take it to the next step. we live in the age of the active shooter and the president is goading them, inciting them.
dozens of times, both in person -- and i'm going to charlottesville this weekend for the one-year anniversary of the march because i'm also alumni. this is a serious issue. and the president doesn't care. what's more problematic about that, the republican party doesn't care. >> the republican party doesn't care. jamie dimon, for example is a ceo who does a superb job. when i hear him say things like, ignore what he tweets, stop listening to what he tweets, look at the policies, the policies are good. when are we going to see leaders who know better? who know they could not ever say or do things like that, it would cost them their jobs? they would fire anyone in their organizations if they said things like this. when are we going to start to see corporate and government leaders say hold on a second? >> well there are, you know, there have been a few. but look, there's this sort of
higher wisdom that said you should take the president seriously but not literally. but lots of people out there take him absolutely literally. if you are the enemy of the american people, then the logical consequences we have to -- >> we have to say one thing, seth did do an extraordinary thing. but it is a private hedge fund. tell me a ceo of a company who has customers, employees, that span the political spectrum, that have the courage, the decency, to say this is wrong and this is a threat to people. because i don't know what ceos doing that. >> no, that's exactly it. they are not speaking up. it will be too late. should there be a national tragedy for them to speak up or for those nice republicans in congress who have been sort of mutedly saying we don't quite like what the president is saying. this is why you take a moral stand before the tragic event occurs. >> and that's the other thing,
we're going to have a charlie hebdo situation here, without question. it is going to happen. because of the behavior of this president. >> please don't let that be true. >> what disgusts me about it is these are local reporters we're talking about. who have great relationships -- the vast majority -- >> media reporters. >> yes, these are the local community reporters. the republican members of congress -- usually complain about, who turn a blind eye to that high school reporter that they knew when she interned with them and that person may be under threat and they don't care about it. that is why this is a danger. not just national security but our very sovereignty and constitution. >> a conservative friend of mine said, you know what, free speech goes both ways and the press gives trump such a hard time. i said, look, the press has been giving presidents a hard time since the second washington administration, all right? this is the first time the president has answered. by the way, when the president goes out, he's surrounded by a guard known as the secret service. when we go out in the streets with our children, with our
families, we have nobody. this is a demagoguery this country has never witnessed in its history. >> you have this person in congress now who attacked a member of the press and paul ryan and nobody else said anything about it. they could have kept him from being seated. >> body slammed him the day before the election and he won. i got to thank my producer dave murphy. he is the one who helped us lay out exactly what's at stake. up next, the manafort trial enters week number two. his former right-hand man rick gates could take the stand as early as today. why he could make or break the case against trump's former campaign manager. (vo) why do subaru forester owners always seem so happy? because they've chosen the industry leader. subaru forester holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class according to alg. better than cr-v. better than rav4. better than rogue. an adventure that starts with a subaru forester will always leave you smiling.
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and talked about being ordered essentially to commit bank and tax fraud. what they haven't shown is anybody close to paul mannaed for who can speak to his state of mind, his motives and rick gates can certainly do that. rick gates was his wing man. rick gates has already admitted participating in these alleged crimes. here's the danger. he also as mitted he lied to the fbi while negotiating that plea agreement. the defense is going to do everything they can to paint him as a liar who's just talking to save his skin and the way prosecutors are going to counteract that is by asking them hard questions on direct examination forcing him to confront his misdeeds before the jury to build his credibility, stephanie. >> they don't have to paint him as a liar, he is one. walk me through this. you've noted that manafort was deep in debt and desperate for a way out when he took the job with the trump campaign f. for me, it blows my mind a guy who made that much money could blow that much money but that's not for us to judge. why is that fact so important in
this case? >> yes, this is actually the most important revelation -- >> remember, he wasn't getting paid -- >> this is the most important revelation. in terms of what it could mean for the russia investigation. because we knew from the indictment that manafort was in dire financial straights as of 2016 but this trial has offered startling new details of manafort's financial collapse. by 2016, his firm was losing more than $1 million a year. they were having trouble paying their health insurance bills. he came to work for the trump campaign, as you said, for free. here's what else we know, he was in debt to a russian oligarch to the tune of $10 million. his close associate, a man named constantine kaliminik had ongoing ties to russian intelligence services according to mueller. how desperate was manafort when he was working for trump and what would he have been willing to do? that's quote this trial is raising, stephanie. >> desperate times, did they call for desperate measures? ken, thanks so much. i hope you brought a couple extra pens today.
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aftershocks injuring upwards of 200. a small plane crashed in a parking lot in santa ana, california, yesterday, killing five people. according to authorities, the aircraft declared an emergency before crashing and at this point the exact sauce is still unknown. venezuelan authorities have arrested six people after what the government called a failed assassination attempt. president maduro retweeted a video which he and the government say shows a drone exploding overhead. in a speech afterward, he blamed the attack on far right elements and colombia's outgoing president. and charlotte rae, the actress known for her role as mrs. garrett, we all grew up with her, the star of "diff'rent strokes" and "facts of life" passed away yesterday at the age of 92. and since the president first set foot on the campaign trail, we have heard one message over and over.
>> my administration will follow two simple rules. buy american and hire american. okay? because from now on, it's going to be america first. >> sounds great. in theory. but a member of american business owners say they cannot hire american and a limit on visas for legal temporary farm workers, coupled with high demand, have them struggling to even stay afloat. nbc has been reporting on the story. it is so interesting, when we came upon the story, i lived in a small town in new jersey where the season is ten weeks long. our restaurants, who have to pay ten grand just to apply for these farm worker visas, didn't get all of them, would love to hire americans where they don't have to provide housing, they don't have language barriers, they don't have legal fees, and they can't. there aren't enough. and the restaurants can't stay open. >> that's right. i've spoken with business owners
in texas and ohio and illinois and maryland and they all say the same thing. they want to hire american workers, but they can't because american workers aren't attracted to these seasonal jobs, and they go to the h 2 b visa program to get foreign leader. with the trump administration going to a lottery system has really hindered a lot of these businesses and accessing these visas and a lot of them were left without foreign labor and scrambling to save their business. >> what was the administration's explanation for doing so? >> the demand. in the first five business days of this year, they received 47,000 applications to get workers and that exceeded the cap. so they need to shift to find a way to give out these visas. >> would the administration make the argument we have a wage problem in this country, we need to cap the visas in order to get these businesses to pay more and attract american workers. could they possibly make that
argument? >> no, because the businesses pay more then minimum wage and some local and sometimes higher than the federal minimum wage. i've spoken to business owners who say they've gone to job fairs there, advertising wages that are sometimes double the local minimum wage but american workers just aren't attracted to these jobs in a good economy with low unemployment. >> the president promised to support small business owners. >> that's right. >> so from those who you have spoken to, how do they feel? because business sentiment, small business and large business sentiment, is up. >> yes, they feel that this program actually helps american workers because they're employing a lot of american workers, but on the labor end, a lot of americans aren't attracted to that end. and so this program actually supports these american businesses. but they feel that it's being conflated with the immigration debate that immigrants are coming in and taking american jobs. >> all right. this is a great piece, thank you so much for joining me, i appreciate it. coming up, money, power, politics. the president tweets on tariffs
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time for money, power, politics. this morning, we're taking a closer look at the president's claim about tariffs and the national debt. the president tweeted this weekend first saying tariffs are working big time. every country on earth wants to take wealth out of the u.s. always to our detriment. i say, as they come, tax them. if they don't want to be taxed, let them make or build the product here in the u.s. then he claimed, quote, because of tariffs, we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 trillion in debt, adding, the debt is the result of the obama administration. there's a lot of fact checking here. first of all, tariffs are not a tax on other countries. the people who pay tariffs on
exported goods are u.s. companies and suppliers and manufacturers. u.s. citizens pay those tariffs. second, the president has imposed tariffs on about $85 billion worth of foreign goods, amounting to $21 billion raised through duties. that's .1% of our $21 trillion debt. and blaming the previous administration, hey, that's par for the course, we see lots of administrations do it. but the president, he has added about $1.6 trillion to the debt since he took office. joining me now, former chairman of the council of economic advisers jason. to you first what on earth could the president be talking about? >> that tweet was sort of more bizarre than average. if we don't have to pay any interest, we could use these tariffs to repay the debt in 1,000 years.
we do pay interest. so it would only pay a small fraction of that. but i think implicit in this was the admission that this is a tax. and that's important because that's what these tariffs are, that's the right way to think about them. >> all right, kala, when it comes to steel, "the new york times" is reporting that two of america's biggest steel manufacturers, they're knowing what's known as a veto power to block u.s. companies from tariff exemptions on steel imports. what in the world does that mean and how exactly does it work? >> well, it's something that, of course, companies are going to be taking into account as they try to figure out, a, how long these tariffs are going to be in effect, and, b, how they're going to do business as usual with them. i know a lot of companies and a lot of countries are trying to figure out work-arounds to actually figure out what happens from here. but in terms of the president's tweet about exactly what the impact the tariffs have on the national debt, this is something
that while it may be about hbiz it's an argument many administration officials are making behind the scenes. the commerce secretary ross told them in july, don't worry about the effect of steel and aluminum tariffs. because the u.s. is making $1 billion in revenue from this. so they clearly are making the connection between the general revenue that goes into the treasury's coffers from some of these tariffs and the fact that, you know, it all sort of comes out in the wash, even though it is ultimately a drop in the bucket. >> but are they forgetting the fact, jason that treasury coffers are suffering because of the massive corporate tax cut? they're borrowing an unusual amount of money. now we're considering tax cut 2.0 and the administration is turning to us and saying listen, we're going to grow and grow and grow. isn't this a heady argument to make, given the situation we're in?
>> the tax cuts were over $200 billion a year. this, as you said, is about $20 billion a year. so they're putting us much deeper into the red. and what's extraordinary about these deficits now is we have an unemployment rate below 4%. historically when the unemployment rate was that low, the deficit was about .3% of gdp. now it's over 3% of gdp. to have a large deficit in a recession like we had in 2009, that's a normal natural good thing, to have a really large one now, that's quite unusual. >> i know it's a hard question, jason, but let's talk about this wage puzzle. the wage puzzle, and let's tie it to income inequality. the president had the smarts and audacity to say i'm going to fix income inequality. but clearly president trump hasn't. why do you believe we still have such a slow wage growth pace when unemployment's so good?
>> yes, i read something about that for vox last week. one thing i pointed out, it's something a lot of people don't appreciate. if you look at workers at the tenth percentile, lower skilled, their wages are growing a bit faster than workers at the top. that's because 24 states in the district of columbia have raised their minimum wages. so that's one step we could take at the federal level. if we raise the minimum wage, we'd see much faster rage growth for a group of people. unfortunately, it's one that president trump has chosen not to push. >> it's interesting, we hear so much about workforce development, retraining people for better jobs. that's fantastic. companies are committing to hire more. we're not hearing companies committing to higher wages. we're not hearing companies talk about higher wages following the massive tax cut. up next, democrats, they
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you know they're talking about this blue wave. i don't think so. if the democrats get in, they're going to raise your taxes and you will have crimes all over the place and people pouring over the border. why would it be a blue wave? i think it should be a red wave. that of course was president trump in ohio over the weekend cheering on what he hopes to win the red wave in november.net root nations was full on gearing up for 2020. top democrats were testing the waters for presidential campaign theme. early 2020 presidential address rehearsal. here is a little bit of what went down in new orleans. >> it is time for us to say no to politics of division.
to say no to the ugly use of bigotry and fear. we say no you will not divide us. >> russians know racism and other forms of hate have always been america's achille's heels and we need to deal with that weakness. >> it is time for us to work together. >> jason johnson and brett is back with me. jason, i got to go to you first, what is your take away? >> it is the most focused network that i have been to and i have been to about four. there were so many panels there that were specifically taylored to on the ground work. it was not a lot of high-minded philosophical things. it was how to make your voters get up on the role if you have
been purged. if there is a blue wave coming, it is back by a lot of people who seem to have a lot of strategies. i was surprised how focused everybody was. not a lot of screaming. >> i want to start with democrat congressman, tim ryan, from the state of ohio and he opens up his speech calling out the president his tweet for insulting lebron james. here is what tim ryan said. >> i am with lebron james. we are not going to let you come to ohio president trump. do your race debate and make your racial statements against people in ohio or anywhere in the country whether it is lebron james or maxine waters or anybody else, that's not playing anymore president trump. >> so tim ryan said no and other
clip we heard over and over say no to trump. was there a prescription to what people say yes to. many people could find president trump reprehenceable in so many ways. were those solutions offered to those people? >> tim is one of the boast people. he's non biassed. i had students went to work for him. one of the other things he talked about is finding people who are in bad neighborhoods and who are trapped and can't sell their houses. we talk about women who can't move out of their neighborhood. those are people who voted for trump. their house were also worth $10,000 two years ago. >> yes. exactly. he talked about this is how we have to change the values of people lives so they are not trap. i heard a lot of that there. the last network i was at was 2015 when people were shouting down bernie sanders.
this is the one where they are talking about strategies and not just who they like in 2020. >> mr. stevens. in your recent comment you made bold predictions. you said quote, "donald trump has been reelected for 2020, waivering voters saw the democratic party more invested humiliated the president than in helping them." >> that column was dateline november 4th, 2020, it is a warning how donald trump will be elected if democrats move further to their states
constituents. i hate the president even more and i can say it in even more robust. >> cory booker's message. is that a message to people. this is he's calling for new leadership for the democratic party. >> it is time for generation of a new leadership. i have given a lot of thoughts of the kind of leadership that we want. we got to have leaders who have vision and who hawill talk abou the future and talk about what democrats stand for and how we'll bring jobs back. >> you hear that and you say right on. saying that, he's putting up right against the best
fundraiser that democrats have and that's nancy pelosi. what's the future of the democrats? >> i think if democrats win the house, nancy pelosi is out. >> who's in? >> i think tim is going to run. i think you will see a lot of mid western people and tim ryan is going to run. forget the man from the gentleman in california. >> that's what's important. you need guys that can fight. nancy pelosi deserves a gold watch, she has done excellent job. not just about trump but the issues in america. >> when we talk about voters engagement, democrats are seeing a bump in voter turn out, 84% more than 2014 in this year's primaries. is that enough? >> look, it may be. if i had to place a small wage, i would say democrats are going to take the house, fail to take
the senate. here is the problem with democrats, the country is going in the right direction has been rising. it is well below the wrong track, it has been going up from 29% to about 41%. >> we are selfless creatures if we are living from paycheck to paycheck. we are willing to say the president is a foul person but i got tuition paid for. >> that's right. we do have a strong economy and surges. wage stagnations, those are points to be identified by democrats. you have an unpopular president and none the less writing a seemingly positive economic wave. democrats have to find a way to get under that. >> with an economy this good, the democrats should not be winning the way they are. that says there as hunger and frustration of the american
people that transcends the economy because trump should not be in the low 40s. >> are democrats not running a risk they are pushing against the economy going further to the left to a more socialist agenda. >> i think when you look at virginia, people are talking about issues of healthcare and taxes and tuition for schools and the environment. imprisoning children at the board have damaged republicans so much. democrats are in a good position by staying away fwr the economy and talk about what the government should be doing. >> crazy template for testimonies, george w. bush won the presidency in 2000s, he promised to restore honor and dignity at the white house. >> compassion and decency are most hopefully all americans would certainly say we want that. gentlemen, thank you both.

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