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And good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. Date 424 of the trump administration, and the president s response to the Mueller Investigation moves into a new phase. The Washington Post reporting that the president is shaking up his legal team, adding a former federal prosecutor, former u. S. Attorney as well, who is well known to viewers of fox news who says mr. Trump is the target of an fbi conspiracy. More on that in just a moment. We are also learning from the post about how the president s lawyers are trying to curtail the scope of the special counsels potential interview with the president. Two attorneys provided the special counsels office with written descriptions that chronicle key momentsnd investigation in an effort to limit any session between the president and special counsel robert s. Mueller iii to a few select topics. Trump has told aides he is chomp at the bit to sit down with him. Kristen welker reports a source tells her theres ongoing communication between the president s legal team and the special counsel, which includes turning over some documents. Our senior White House Correspondent Hallie Jackson tonight said the two teams met recently and regularly, in other words, theyve been talking and continue to talk. As we mentioned, donald trump has hired another lawyer for the Team Handling the Russian Investigation he is joseph digenova. He made public his allegation of a fbi Justice Department plot against the president. Make no mistake about it, a group of fbi and d. O. J. People were trying to frame donald trump of a falsely created crime. They were going to exonerate hillary and they were going to frame donald trump. What they have done to the department and the fbi is undermine the confidence of the American People in federal Law Enforcement. It is disgraceful and it all stems from their animus towards President Trump. Joe digenova has been around a long time. This quote from a wall street journal oped during the investigation in 1997 of bill clinton is getting a wide circulation tonight, quote, nobody should underestimate the upheal that a progress of the president would cause, but we went through it once before and watergate and survived. The nation, in fact, could conceivably benefit from the indictment of a president. It would teach the valuable civics lesson that no one is above the law. President trump spent the weekend criticizing the investigation and for the first time he went after the special counsel by name. The Mueller Probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime. It was based on fraudulent activities and a fake dossier paid for by crooked hillary and the dnc and improperly used in fisa court for surveillance of my campaign. Witch hunt. Trumps lawyer john dowd also called for an end of the investigation fueling new concerns about the special counsels future. Ty cobb, another member of the legal team tried to allay those fears with a statement saying the president was not considering firing robert mueller. Republican congressman trey gowdy warned of the consequences of moving against the special counsel. I would just counsel the president its going to be a very, very long, bad 2018 and its going to be distracting from other things that he wants to do and was elected to do. There is also more fallout from the firing of former fbi Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe, whom the president targeted before he was dismissed. The Associated Press reporting that mccabe septembkept persona about his interactions with the president , which are now in the hands of the special counsel and are similar to the file made by jo james comey about his own conversations with President Trump. This led to this tweet from the president spent very little time with Andrew Mccabe but he never took notes when he was with me. Can we call them fake memos . We have a terrific starting panel as we start our week here. Philip rucker, sam stein and well call this byline, we begin, trump is not consulting with top advisers, including chief of staff john f. Kelly and chief white house lawyer don mcgahn on his russia Legal Choices or his comments about the probe, according to one person with knowledge of his actions who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive conversations. The president continues to complain his lawyers are not protecting him and that Deputy Attorney general rod j. Rosenstein who is supervising the probe is up to mischief, said the person who spoke to trump in recent days. Can you shed any information on what mischief rosenstein is up to and fill in the blanks here . I think its twofold. The white house staff, the people working in the government, john kelly, don mcgahn and others would frankly not want to be a part with the russian discussions. But the president feels increasingly emboldened to make his own decisions, to act as his own lawyer, his own strategist, his own p. R. Specialist, if he will. He wants to call his shots and handle this Mueller Probe as he sees fit, which is by these tweets hes had over the weekend. I know from my reporting hes been spending a lot of time talking about it on the phone with his friends, less so with his political advisers in the white house but more so with the people that he communicates with, you know, old pals from new york, even some of the hosts over at Fox News Channel and watches a lot of tv commentary about all of this. Hes been using that phrase witch hunt a lot. I would just make a historical parallel, brian. A colleague of my dug up an old clip under the bilines woodward and bernstein from the water game period. Thats what Richard Nixon was doing as the watergate hearings were up under way, he was fuming this was a witch hunt out to get him. You read that story and its eerily similar to what ewoo hwe today. Tamara, lets presume trumps lawyers go back to the white house and break it to the boss that this is not going to be over last thanksgiving or news years and then we see the president go to social media and then we see the president hire the very familiar joe digenova from fox news. I think had it become increasingly clear that the timeline was slipping when it slipped from thanksgiving to new years to, well, its late march now at this point. And President Trump is bringing on this new lawyer who based on all of his Public Comments is very much in line with what President Trump sees of this investigation, which is this idea of it as a witch hunt. And President Trump, as weve well documented, really likes people who he sees on tv defending him. And often tries to find ways to bring them into his circle. Interestingly digenova is not going to be part of the outside team, not part of the inside team. When i asked white house lawyer ty cobb about this, he made it abundantly clear that digenova was not going to be part of his team. Cobb has been more has been this lawyer who has been more about trying to cooperate with muellers investigation in hopes that the cooperation will speed things up and not seeing the benefit in pushing back on it obviously the president and some of his outside lawyers have a very different view how this is going to be approached. Im told well have more reporting on that in about 60 seconds. Sam stein, i want to show an example of the president tweeting something this weekend and an instant Fact Checking of him that was kind of breath taking to read. First from the president s twitter feed, why does the mueller team have 13 hardened democrats, some big crooked hillary supporters and zero republicans . Youve got to admire the capi l capitalizati capitalizati capitalization another dem recently added does anyone think this is fair . And yet there is no kcollusion. And then from glenn kessler. The way trump tweets about how investigators cant be trusted because they donated to the democrats, its easy to forget he donated to Hillary Clinton in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009. Melania, ivanka and don jr. Also made donations to clinton. Sometimes you have to step back and see how loose this president is with the truth. We sometimes forget to notice the clear errors among the tweets. I will say this, i dont think this weekend was a particular great sign for the president and his legal team in terms of the strategy that theyre bringing to the Mueller Probe. First of all, lets step back and just recognize what is sort of a wellestablished truth in this city, which is he already has two lawyers who most regard a little bit long in the tooth, a little bit unable to keep up with the mueller team and a little bit in over their heads. If the reports are true tonight and bringing in this new lawyer is angering the current legal team and potentially compelling ty cobb to resign, that would be a huge setback and youd be starting at ground zero again. They are having impacts on the legal care that i trieyre tryi bring against mueller. After the tantrum of had week on social media, there was a spotlight on Congressional Republican leadership to see whether they o would do anything, whether it was in public reactions to inoculate bob mueller. What we heard is basically crickets. There is disbelief on capitol hill he would actually take the step to fire mule are. So we have no legislative attempt to inoculate him from the fire ing. As you were speaking, you made our printer go off, which ive never seen done before but as you were making the point that had been discussed throughout the day and that is how unty cobbian a guy he is. President trumps legal team was poised for a shakeup on monday as he openly discussed firing one of his lawyers, another considered resigning and a third who pushed theories on television that mr. Trump was framed by the fbi joined the roster. Mr. Trump has weighed allowed in recent days to Close Associates whether to dismiss ty cobb, who had pushed most strongly a strategy of cooperating fully with the special counsel investigation. Heres where it gets interesting. The president reassured mr. Cobb he had no plans to fire him, according to a person who spoke with the president late monday, in part to prevent a narrative that his team was in disarray after the New York Times began making inquiries. Mr. Trumps lead lawyer, john dowd, contemplated leading his post because he concluded he has no control over the behavior of the president. Mr. Trump has reverted to a more aggressive strategy and so on. Tamara, there you have it. What could possibly go wrong . As someone who has covered this white house, this is a familiar narrative applied mott just to the legal team but also to various white house aides. Its why youve had such app incredible level of turnover both in the president s cabinet and in his top aides in the white house, like offthecharts, historically unprecedented amounts of turnover. President trump has not settled on the team that he likes and this is not the first shakeup of his legal team. And we should say we dont know that this is a shakeup just yet. It might be just an addition, but certainly, you know, there was a shakeup not too long ago that put dowd in charge of this team and brought in jay. So it is a cycle that repeats itself with some frequency. Who remains to say, mr. President , its one thing to want the people around you that you want. If there is something about making a hire that gives you the great feeling of a warm bath, thats fine, but please remember that hire may not help to achieve your goal. Well, its a good question, brian. I think President Trump is making a lot of his own decisions at this point. Ty cobb is a lawyer at the white house who is effectively doing a slot of the paperwork. Hes literally responding to document requests at the white house, arranging interviews for white house staff. John dowd is the one dealing with the president personally in his personal approach, but again, i think President Trump is making a lot of these decisions. Hes deciding when to issue these tweets, he deciding to attack bob mueller personally by name as he did over this weekend, hes deciding to call it a witch hunt and hes deciding he wants to sit down for an interview, even though his lawyers are very concerned about what and understandably so because he has a history of exaggerating the facts and sometime outright lying. There is a real genuine concern about whether he can truthfully answer questions face to face with the special counsel investigators. Sam, im reminded over the weekend of what john brennan said on social media. Friday night here we were talking about the words of Barry Mccaffrey and now john brennan on the board with this. Its a sorkinesque statement. When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude and political corruption becomes known, will you take your rightful place as a disgrazed demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat andy mccabe but will you not destroy america, america will histotriu over you. So the former fbi director, going to his counterpart in russia, saying knock it off, something not done in the spy trade very often. I like the use of sorkinesque. You can see it in a west wing episode for show. John brennan got a lot of push back because it was hyperbolic. Maybe thats what the times call for. The firing of Andrew Mccabe is a really interesting case study of what the president has done visavis the entire robert Mueller Probe. He may have been fired for cause. He went through a process within the d. O. J. That did require political im sorry, civil servants, not political hacks, to make a judgment on the case. But because trump had weighed in so heavily and aggressively on this matter and essentially called for his firing and because he tooted his own horn so to speak after the firing was done, it created an aura about this, a bad stench of sorts about the whole firing. Why did he do it in the first place . What was the point two days before he was going to get his pension . He was trying to spoil a witness against him, trying to gas light the process. This is what john brennan was responding to, the gas lighting of the american institutions and the Americans Trust in their institutions. Well find out at some point in time whether john brennan is right or donald trump is. We have only been on the air for 18 minutes. Yet another eventful night on this shift. With our thanks to phil ruker, tamara keith and sam stein for starting us off as we begin a new week. Trump being trump, the president describeds emboldened now, more comfortable in the job as we see tonight, expect to see and hear more candor from the president. And a man who worked alongside mccabe for 20 years weighs in on his firing and the damage being done when the president attacks the fbi. The 11th hour just Getting Started on a busy monday night. Awwwww. 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This weekend he unleashed a tirade on special counsel robert mueller. He said for months President Trumps Legal Advisers implored him to avoid so much as mentioning the name of robert mueller. Ignoring that advice over the weekend was the decision of a president who ultimately trusts only his own instincts hand now believes he has settled into the job enough to rely on them rather than the people who advise him. Were joined by two more friends here to react and join our conversation. Anita kumar, correspondent for mcclatchy and john heilemann. Try not to veer into the he she dr. Phil guardrail but is it possible this president s happiness comes a result of enough rage to cause an jauss burst and ergo the aftereffect . It depends who youre talking to. People im speaking to who are close to the white house take this as a good sign that he is feeling more confident. Would you have thought that he would have felt this when he was coming in, becoming the president of the united states. This is a man who didnt think he was going to be president. He didnt think he would win so he wasnt sort of prepared for that but hes feeling better about it, hes felling like he knows what hes doing and people close to the white house and close to him are pretty happy about it. This is the president they thought he would be, hes taking sort of control of things. You mentioned the firing of Rex Tillerson, thats the thing that i keep hearing over and over, that hes kind of cleaned house into the white house and hes venturing out into the cabinet secretaries. If you talk to the critics, democrats, theyre afraid of what hes going to do next. John, were not here to advise or consent, god knows. We do occasionally judge. What if getting rid of a white shoe legal team is politically suicidal in this case for the president . It could well be. I mean, look, its interesting that in the past, president s you and i have covered, you often see a phenomenon starting with coolidge, guess. A new president arrives in washington, d. C. With a coterie of people from home, theyre loyalists, they arrive in the white house and dont really know what theyre doing but they have some governing experience. One thing they learn in a year or so is that they need to adjust to the ways of washington. You see the chief counsel or chief of staff, who is a vestige of home, arkansas, texas or wherever or georgia. Or georgia, dispensed with in favor of the Old Washington hand. Trum specific like the bizarre owe world president who came to washington with no political background who hired a bunch of people, a bunch of generals in a white shoe law firms or assemblage of lawyers and because he feels more comfortable, hes doing the opposite, getting rid of the experienced hands and bringing in the flame throwers, bringing in the fox news personalities, bringing in the war cabinet, the loyalists who he thinks as things get tougher will be there just to defend him and say yes, yes, yes, your instincts are right. But the basic thing of arriving in the office, being uncertain and getting more comfortable, he has that in common with his predecessors. Its just he came from a different place that his reaction to is t now is exactly 180, opposite from what the other have done. Anita, as is your custom, you have written to remind all of us about the down ballot effects. We think were watching this closely . Imagine having the letter r after your name and being an incumbent member of congress knowing that your neck is going to be on the block come november and you know that its going to feel like we wake up tomorrow and its labor day and the campaign is on, but the down ballot effect is really going to be something dramatic to watch. It is. I mean, it already was, right. This is a president who is not doing well in the polls. We already didnt know exactly what was going to happen except things are not looking good for republicans, but now hes actually making it worse. Hes feeling better, doing what he wants to do but hes making it worse because they really dont know whats coming. Republicans who want to say depending on their district, fund raise with him or campaign with him or not run away or doesnt know wheth dont know whether to run towards or away from him are going to have a president who they dont know what to expect policiwise. His aides said lets not do the tariffs but he didnt listen. He went against something the bulk of the Republican Party is opposed to. How is this going to be for the people on the ballot that this is the thing that President Trump is pushing right now, the tariffs, theyre opposed to that. So theyre not going to know what to expect and it going to pose them a lot of problems. John, i mean seriously, how did the trump agenda advance today . Not at all. I dont think it advanced at all today and i think in some ways to go back to your original point, think the president is in greater legal jeopardy today than yesterday. I had a point i wanted to make but the point you were trying to make which i think is a good one to return to here, it is one thing to bring in people who will encourage your instincts, even if your instincts are at odds with the conventional wisdom. When it comes to legal jeopardy, theres a reason why you surround yourself with good lawyers, because of that old adage about how a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. You dont want to give he doesnt know the law. He doesnt understand the jeopardy hes in. None of us do when we go before a tribunal, a judge, let alone a special prosecutor. So thats where you have to say my instincts are not all of us, my instincts are not going to be the right instincts, i have to trust someone here because this is the future of my presidency at stakes and my instni instincts are not going to be the right instincts. I think he puts himself in enormous risk because hes going to be bringing in essentially yes men into the one arena where being a yes man is not rewarded typically in the realm of law and high, high stakes politics. Thanks to two very smart friends of ours, anita kumar and john heilemann. The president goes after robert mueller, by name. 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Were you surprised to learn both sides and both counsel and we dont know what the Trump Legal Team is going to look like by close of business tomorrow have been meeting for some time and its on a continuum, theyve kept talking . No, i think they need to be talking. Its a good thing for them to be doing it, though i would say mueller has the upper hand in this. He is really in control bass he has t because he has subpoena power and can bring in the president any time he wants. The president would have to then claim a fifth amendment privilege or answer the questions. Im not sure what they are still negotiating. Obviously you want to be kind to the president , you want to agree on a time thats convenient so that the business of our government can continue, but in terms of whether it happens or not, its really not a question that his lawyers can be negotiating, and especially when theyre attacking mueller at the same time as theyre negotiating with him. When you read the reporting, and you really do kind of do have to set aside of your day every day to read the journalism and then you need to read a second wave every night. When you read that the mueller attorneys report back there theyre really honing in on the flynn and comey dismissals and that that was what they brought back to the white house, what does that tell you about the Mueller Investigation . Well, that could mean that theyre looking at obstruction because theyre focusing on the actions that happened while he was in the white house, as opposed to during the campaign. But i you know, were basing this on reporting that we dont know how complete and accurate it is. Im sure its not coming from muellers office so it may be in the best interest of the president to have us believe that its a narrow thing, that they arent looking at, for example, follow the money and that they arent looking at the conspiracy with the russians. So it may be that we are being a little misled by this. We dont know. Its also curious about what theyre saying that were providing documents in the hopes that it will limit the scope of the interview. Im kind of surprised about that. One report actually said that the documents were summaries of things, and i can tell you that during watergate, we were offered summaries of the tapes and we said absolutely not. And that is actually what really led to the saturday night massacre was our saying we have to have the original tapes. We cannot have a summary of them. Y we need admissible evidence and a summary is hearsay, it not admissible evidence so it does us no good to get a summary. I was very curious as to whether that was something they are seriously trying to offer. It wouldnt be a monday night if i didnt ask you about a porn star. Im going to ask you to watch an exchange on this network tonight between ari melber and her attorney. Well talk about it on the other side. Mr. Trump has been fully aware, you allege. Does that mean you have evidence or reason to believe he was aware of the threat against miss daniels . Yes. And what does that say to you . Well, i think its serious. I mean, theres no question that its serious. You think his threat to her was made on Donald Trumps authority . Again, i dont want to get into the details and my opinion of this threat. Were going to let the American People judge for themselves as to what happened and judge for themselves as to what my client says and her credibility. So, jill, you may not want to go near that, but what was being alleged there, a threat being made to stormy daniels. Thats a heck of a charge that were going to learn about, apparently. I cant wait to learn more about it. I also would like to know what the timing of the threat was. Because of course if the threat preceded her signing the nondisclosure agreement, it completely voids that agreement. You cannot reach a fair contract if you are doing so under the duress of threat. But even if the threat came afterwards, it is a serious allegation that the president is involved in threatening witnesses. So we know that its happened before and its almost not surprising. The president himself has said that he could do almost anything and wouldnt lose political support. So maybe hes trying to prove it to us. I think well all know a lot more after the sunday night interview, which im sure all of your viewers are looking forward to as much as i am. Oh, the things we talk about around here these case. Jill winebank, you always have our thanks. Thank you very much for joining us on this monday night. Thank you. And coming up, well talk to a former fbi official who has none Andrew Mccabe for two decades. Well talk about the president s continued attacks on the fbi as now hundreds of federal agents swarm to austin, texas to help stop a serial bomber when we continue. 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President trump praised the dismissal of former fbi Deputy Director Andrew Mccabe over the weekend, writing this on twitter, Andrew Mccabe fired, a great day for the hard working men and women of the fbi, a great day for democracy. With us tonight is robert anderson, former fbi director of the criminal, cyber and services branch. Hes known Andrew Mccabe for 20 years. He was the assistant director of counterintelligence while mccabe was the assistant director of counterterrorism. I note that you got up either very late or very early for us in london to do this and i thank you for doing that. I ask you to describe the andy mccabe you know and part two of that is how do you square the fbi internal findings against him . Thanks, brian. Great to be with you here tonight. The one thing ill tell but andy and i dont think people have said this enough on television. Ive worked with him for a number of years on the highest level of the fbi and what people dont understand in those jobs as you pointed out when he was the assistant director of counterterrorism and i was the assistant director of counterintelligence and we were both as soon sistant director o operations, you split the job and he was running one side of the fbi and i was running the other. You ha whether it was meetings with eric holder, jim comey, ive always found andy to be not only a trustworthy individual but a man of honor and integrity. And i think it cant be said enough about that. I want to read you one of the many tweets of our president over the weekend about mccabe and specifically mccabe shares with comey and some of you know reflebsively, and thats note taking, contemporaneously dictating notes to file. The president kind of expressed doubt spent very little time with Andrew Mccabe but he never took notes when he was with me. I dont believe he made memos except to help his own agenda. First of all, theres no way someone would take notes in the middle of a conversation, but it is a skill set and a mindset that seems to confound the president. He hasnt been around that ethos before. No, but i got to tell you, its fbi agent 101, especially men and women that came into the bureau 20plus years ago like myself or andy or others. You took notes on everything, whether it was interviews or interrogations or investigational leads, its actually quite routine. Back in the old days we used to put thome into a 1a envelope. And later on if you developed material or evidence or testimony yal information you would pull information from that and write fd302s, which is the report an fbi agent would testify from court. So in our side of the world when it comes to Law Enforcement and especially in the fbi, its quite routine. I have to ask you about austin, texas. As a citizen, its calming to see the pictures we keep showing of all those people arriving and putting on that blue fbi or atf jacket in many cases because this is terrorism by a different name, four bombings around that community. Isnt it the danger of having a president diminish Law Enforcement at the federal level, these men and women we now ask them to go into a dangerous place, calm down an entire met poropolitan area and oh, by the way, could you please find this serial bomber before he or she strikes again . I think its a great point, brian. I think the tweets unfortunately are odd at best and at worst they make bad influences on people that dont staunderstand what youre talking about. People need to understand the men and women in the federal Law Enforcement, state and local Law Enforcement and really ever since 9 1 happened in this country, there is a huge bond between all those inner agencies Operational Task forces and really this is when you see it shine, in times of tragedy like this, whats going on in texas, the men and women come together and theyll find whoever has been doing this and i really think we need to hear more about that. Robert anderson, who has been terrific with us and very generous with your time in joining us so early in the morning from our london bureau. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, brian. Coming up for us, how one american company, a big one at that, managed to lose more than 36 billion in market value just today. Were back with that after this. A wealth of information. A wealth of perspective. A wealth of opportunities. Thats the clarity you get from fidelity wealth management. 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I understood early that facebook was how donald trump was going to win. Twitter is how he talked to the people. Facebook was going to be how he won. And facebook is how he won . I think so. I mean, i think donald trump won, but i think facebook was the method. It was the highway in which his car drove on. That was the Trump Campaign digital director Brad Parscale appearing on 60 minutes. He has already been put in charge of the trump reElection Campaign. And were learning more about a company that was hired by the Trump Campaign. Cambridge analytica allegedly harvested the data of millions of facebook users in the months leading up to the election. And now facebook is under heavy pressure to provide answers. Facebook has always maintained its just a platform, a massive one at that. The problem for facebook is they were used by some as a propaganda platform to get donald trump elected. And big tech might be looking at some bigtime regulations. We get our report on it tonight from nbc News Business correspondent jo ling kent. Reporter tonight Facebook Stock tanking, dropping nearly 7 after allegations that Data Firm Cambridge Analytica secretly harvested the personal information of 50 million unsuspecting facebook users. They are not just a social network. They are also an information battle space. Reporter whistleblower christopher wily helped find cambridge, which later was brought on to help the Trump Campaign. The firm hired by jared kushner, who oversaw the digital operation, and by Brad Parscale, who is now running the trump 2020 reelection efforts. Its really important that americans understand what has happened with their data, their private information. Reporter starting in 2014, Cambridge Analytica funded a Personality Test on facebook and paid people to take it. This allowed the company to gather personal information from participants facebook feeds. But what users didnt know, the company was also collecting data about their facebook friends. The alleged goal, influence the views of the american electorate. In hidden camera video from our british partner itn channel 4, a Company Executive told a reporter posing as a perspective client about the companys edge in politics. Its no good fighting an Election Campaign on the fax, because actually its all about emotion. Reporter another executive brags about the lengths they would be willing to go for a client. Girls around to the candidates house. We have lots of history of things. Reporter tonight Cambridge Analytica denies misusing facebook data, and says we entirely refute any allegation that Cambridge Analytica or any of its affiliates used entrapment, bribes or socalled honey traps for any purpose whatsoever. Facebook, which also owns instagram banned Cambridge Analytica from its platform and hired a Digital Forensics firm to investigate, saying we remain committed to vigorously enforcing our policies to protect peoples information. Amid new calls for more regulation of social media companies. Were seeing the beginning of the breakup of big tech. Big tech has not been held to the same scrutiny as the rest of corporate america. Reporter brian, privacy experts warn that anything you post to facebook, whether its a like, an update, a photo, a video, can be used to target you. It can reveal your location, your political preferences or what you like to shop for. And this has capitol hill on alert. What has happened with Cambridge Analytica is drawing more scrutiny. Now senators klobuchar and wyden want more answers from the founder and ceo of Facebook Mark zuckerberg. Brian . Nbc news correspondent jo ling kent reporting for us tonight from our los angeles bureau. Well take another break. 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And some have theorized this new map could result in a net gain of anywhere from two to five more democrats in congress representing the commonwealth. The next Government Shutdown deadline is looming. Our kick the can congress has passed five spending bills so far this year, all of them just long enough to put off the larger conversation of funding the government. Last one temporarily funds our government only three this coming friday. This time around, there is an effort to actually fund our government all the way to september. Can you imagine that . As we mentioned, the bombings continue in austin, texas after another blast there last night. The toll thus far two dead, four injured. 350 fbi special agents have arrived in austin. 500 total working on the case. They believe this is the work of a serial bomber who is now emboldened using a trip wire on this last bombing. The reward for information standing at 100,000. Thats our broadcast for this monday as we start off a new week. Thank you so very much for being here with us. Good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. In watergate, its still not totally clear looking back why the Nixon White House didnt just destroy all the oval office tapes. They knew what was on them. Why didnt they just barbecue them . Frankly, looking back, its still not clear why they made those tapes in the first place, but they made them. And by the time the special prosecutor was closing in, nixon and the white house knew if those tapes became public, that would be the end. So they fought to keep the tapes