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Really believe hes up 11 points in florida . Hint, not really. And a stillinfected President Trump makes his way down to the oval office, even as the white house covid outbreak continues to expand. The question is, why wont the white house say when the president last tested negative . Its definitely way too early for this. Good morning and welcome to way too early, the show that catches more flies with honey than vinegar. I am kasie hunt on this thursday, october 8th. We will start with the news. The coronavirus pandemic was center stage at last nights Vice President ial debate. Vice president mike pence and senator Kamala Harris, both behind plexiglass and standing 12 feet apart, clashed over the Trump Administrations response to the crisis. Harris called it the greatest failure of any president ial administration in the history of our country, while pence defended both the administrations response and the rose garden event that may have sparked the ongoing outbreak at the white house. If i may say, that rose garden event, theres been a great deal of speculation about it. My wife karen and i were there and honored to be there. Many of the people who were at that event, susan, were actually tested for coronavirus, and it was an outdoor event, which all of our scientists regularly, routinely advise. The difference here is, President Trump and i trust the American People to make choices in the best interests of their health. Joe biden and Kamala Harris consistently talk about mandates, and not just mandates with the coronavirus, but a government takeover of health care thank you, thank you the green new deal, all government control. Were about freedom and respecting the freedom of the American People. Lets talk about respecting the American People. You respect the American People when you tell them the truth. You respect the American People when you have the courage which weve always done. To be a leader, speaking of those things that you may not want people to hear, but they need to hear so they can protect themselves. But this administration stood on information that if you had as a parent, if you had as a worker, knowing you didnt have enough money saved up, and now youre standing in a food line because of the ineptitude of an administration that was unwilling to speak the truth to the American People. If the Trump Administration approves a vaccine before or after the election, should americans take it . And would you take it . If the Public Health professionals, if dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, ill be the first in line to take it, absolutely. But if Donald Trump Tells us i should that we should take it im not taking it. The fact that you continue to undermine Public Confidence in a vaccine if the vaccine emerges during the Trump Administration i think is unconscionable. And senator, i just ask you, stop playing politics with peoples lives. The reality is that we will have a vaccine, we believe, before the end of this year. Joining us now, nbc news and msnbc contributor shawna thomas. Shawna, thanks so much for getting up extra early with us this morning. Its really great to have you to break down this Vice President ial debate. Setting aside the fact that at the end of the day, its possible the fly will become the most memorable piece of what we saw last night, that remark that we just heard there from mike pence raised a lot of eyebrows, where he said, stop playing politics with peoples lives, considering and they talked about this later on in the debate what we learned from bob woodward about the president saying that he always wanted to downplay the virus, and harris talked a little bit about that there. What were your Key Takeaways from last night, especially on the question of the coronavirus . I think on covid19, which we all knew would be the first question out of the gate, is the plexiglass made it a part of the debate stage, basically. I think one of the things that struck me is that senator harris kind of just had to list the facts on this one. Now, later in the debate, theres a lot of going back and forth and a lot of questions that both candidates didnt answer, blah, blah, blah. But on this one, she basically just had to say things like, rose garden and how many people have died in america in comparison to the rest of the country. I think in some ways, susan page had it in her question how many people have died in america in comparison to the rest of the world, and that was already bad for Vice President mike pence. So, it struck me that this isnt sort of a situation, especially because the president has contracted it, especially because there were questions around whether Vice President mike pence, second in line to the presidency, should even be on that debate stage in a room with a bunch of people, it didnt have to be spun in some ways. It just kind of, you lay out the facts and then sort of what senator harris said was, looked at the American People and said, you decide if you think this was a good response or a bad response. And on top of that, Vice President mike pence was the head of the coronavirus or i guess is, sorry the head of the Coronavirus Task force. So, it does command some of the responsibility on him as well. I think with respect to the debate as a whole and im curious about your take on this, kasie im not sure this changed a lot of minds. I do think its worth remembering that there are people out there, people who are going to vote, who are americans, who dont really know who senator Kamala Harris is, who may not have been paying as much attention in the democratic primary the way you and i were paying attention, who dont really know who the senate dworm california is because they dont live in california, and so she had to use it to tell people about herself. She answered a question with her bio. She didnt answer the question that susan page asked, but she did give a lot of information about herself. So, this was an introduction to her. This was something to cleanse the palate, to a certain extent, from the debate last week, but im not sure it pushed anyone towards or away from either candidate, if youve already decided to support President Donald Trump or former Vice President joe biden. It did seem, shawna, to me, as though both candidates went in there and basically did what they needed to do. Senator harris, as you point out and it is easy to forget sometimes that these events are often viewed by a much wider audience than the one, certainly, that may be tuning in to every single backandforth in this president ial campaign. And so, she did have to use the moment to introduce herself, and she did it without making any major mistakes, which is something i think people were watching for a little bit with her. I have to say that the semiyachtics of watching mike pences performance, too, i think underscored the state of the race in a way that i dont know that i should have been surprised by it, but i was a little bit. I mean, he almost when he didnt have his answer right to hand, its almost as though you could see him think about where to go. There was kind of a sense of weariness to him at some points in the course of the debate that seemed to me to reflect the state of a race that they are losing, if that makes sense. What are your thoughts . Yeah, i mean, it did sort of look like he was calculating, what can i say to make sure, one, i dont contradict the president of the United States, and that also sounds good and reassures the people who i was brought into this campaign originally to reassure. I think we should remember in 2016, when he became the Vice President ial nominee for President Donald Trump, it was because they felt he needed to shore up their base when it came to, you know, evangelical issues, christian issues, being prolife, abortion, all of that. So, i think he was like, i need to make sure i reassure the people who like me and who came to President Trump because of me that i still am on their side. I need to look calm in comparison to how the president looked last week, and i have to make sure i do not contradict him. And you could sort of see those wheels turning. I think thats a great point, and thats why you saw references to groups like the knights of columbus. There were definitely signals to that group of people, hey, were still here, stick with us, like you did last time. Shawna thomas, we will see you again on the top of the hour on morning joe. Thank you again for being here way too early. I really appreciate it. And in his first appearance since returning to the white house on monday evening, President Trump tweeted a video yesterday where he called his Coronavirus Diagnosis a, quote, blessing from god, and insisted he was cured, thanks to an experimental antibody cocktail by regeneron. I got back a day ago from walter reed medical center. I spent four days there and didnt have to. I could have stayed at the white house, but the doctors said, because youre president , lets do it. I said, fine. They gave me regeneron. Its called regeneron, and other things, too. But i think this was the key. But they gave me regeneron. And it was like, unbelievable i felt good immediately. I felt as good three days ago as i do now. They call them therapeutic. But to me, it wasnt therapeutic. It just made me better, okay . I call that a cure. I want everybody to be given the same treatment as your president , because i feel great. I feel, like, perfect. So, i think this was a blessing from god that i caught it. This was a blessing in disguise. I want to get for you what i got, and im going to make it free. Cant help but think of all the families who have lost loved ones when he says catching this disease was a blessing. We know as part of the treatment, the president has also taken remdesivir and the steroid dexamethasone, which is typically used to treat severely ill coronavirus patients. In that video, which was tweeted by the president , he says he specifically asked doctors to give him the regeneron treatment. President trump returned to the oval office yesterday, despite his Coronavirus Diagnosis, sparking new concerns over infection risks. The Senior Administration official tells nbc news that trump went to the office for a briefing on hurricane delta and on stimulus talks. What stimulus talks . The official added that white house chief of staff mark meadows and social media director dan skoeveno were the only staffers to join him in the oval. Trumps presence was tipped off by the sight of a marine guard standing outside, who, of course, was not wearing a mask. You can see him there. Thats traditionally how you know that the president is in the oval office. Trumps move is precarious, considering the oval office is opposite the white house residence. That means the contagious president had to walk across the property in order to get there. It wasnt necessary for the president to make the trip, since the east wing where the residence is also has an office. Yesterday, the chief of staff didnt explain any specific precautions being taken to protect staffers as the sick president returns to work. His schedule right now is fluid. Were looking at his prognosis from a health standpoint. He wanted to go to the oval yesterday. If he decides to go to the oval, weve got safety protocols there that are not only from a ppe standpoint but from a ventilation standpoint in the oval where we can actually work to that end as well. All right, still ahead, the president is reportedly ready to get back on the campaign trail. What nbc news is learning about possible events as early as next week. 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As the season continues, so do the leagues coronavirus outbreak troubles, with an additional two players on the Tennessee Titans testing positive yesterday. The sustained infections are raising more questions about the possibility of a pause, an option that the nfls chief medical officer says is still on the table. Asked about a temporary pause to the regularseason schedule yesterday, allen sills told the nfl network, weve never taken any option off the table, which includes some type of pause or reset or any other type of alternative arrangements. Time now for weather. Lets go to meteorologist bill karins for a check on the Severe Weather thats moving toward the Southern Coast this morning. Bill . Yeah, good morning, kasie. We just have a new update in from the hurricane center, some good, and of course, some bad on this one. And our thoughts really just have to get out to the people at lake charles. The fact that they dealt with laura, one of the strongest hurricanes theyve ever experienced, and now six weeks later they have another one coming is just unimaginable. So, lets first talk about yesterday with delta. Went into the cancun area, cozumel. It was a category 2 when it made landfall there, so theres a lot of tree damage, there was Power Outages throughout the city. We had some problems with some water and some flooding, some minor structural damage. But this wasnt a devastating blow thats going to, like, you know, make it where, you know, tourists dont return for, like, years. So, were talking a cleanup that will take a couple weeks and months and get power back. But you know, thankfully, it was not as bad as it could have been. Lets get into the forecast now. Lets talk about louisiana. Now, we had hurricane warnings that are in effect for the lake charles area, all the way from Cameron Parish to abbeville to morgan city, backwards lafayette to alexandria. Outside of that, we have Tropical Storm warnings in effect for galveston all the way to new orleans. As this storm has gotten larger, it hasnt really gotten stronger. It is a category 2, 100mileperhour winds. This does not look like its going to become like one of those huge beasts of a storm, where its category 4. It does look like it could maybe take a shot at category 3, but likely, it will be a category 2 or a strong category 1, as it approaches southwest louisiana. And as i had mentioned, this is almost the exact same spot that laura made landfall. So i mean, just unimaginable that two strong hurricanes in one season that close together. You know, it would literally be about five miles away from where laura made landfall. All of our computer models are in excellent agreement with that path going almost towards lake charles, maybe just to the east of lake charles, so some of the highest water levels would be to the east. So, the storm surge is going to be a problem. This storm is growing larger. Its almost going to be 800 miles wide later on today. Thats not intensity. Thats just how wide it is. And the bigger the storm is, it could actually push water towards the coast. So, kasie, were going to have issues with this storm, but i mean, just the biggest thing with this is for the people of lake charles. They havent recovered yet, kasie. Theres blue tarps everywhere on the roofs. Yeah, thats really, really tough. Our thoughts definitely with them this morning as that hurricane bears down. Bill karins, thank you, as always, my friend. Still ahead here, we are breaking down the latest battleground polling that shows joe biden widening his lead against President Trump in several key battleground states. Were back here in just a moment. Battleground states. Were back here jinust a moment as a barber, nothings gonna beat my shave. Especially for guys who tend to get razor bumps with ordinary razors. But now theres gillette skinguard. 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Try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. Welcome back to way too early. Lets take a look at whats driving the day here in washington. Just one day after President Trump flipflopped on coronavirus stimulus talks, House Speaker nancy pelosi and treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin discuss the possibility of a standalone bill to help the airlines. According to the New York Times, during a conversation yesterday morning, mnuchin asked about the possibility of a standalone bill after a Payroll Program for Airline Workers lapsed last week and airlines have warned of tens of thousands of more furloughs and layoffs without federal intervention. Pelosi and mnuchin talked again for about 20 minutes yesterday night and agreed to talk again at some point today, according to the speakers deputy chief of staff. A lot of people watching that very, very closely. With 26 days until the election, new polling gives joe biden a doubledigit lead in some key battleground states. In pennsylvania, the latest quinnipiac poll shows biden with a 13point advantage, 54 41 . My sense is its actually closer, when i talk to sources, but thats quite a poll. In florida, that same poll shows biden with an 11point lead, 51 40 . I also struggle to find anyone who thinks the gap is that wide in florida. Thats probably a much closer race. In nevada, the latest the New York Times Sienna College poll shows biden up by six, 48 42 . And in iowa, the quinnipiac poll shows biden with a fivepoint lead, 50 45 . Out in wisconsin, the latest Marquette Law School poll shows biden with a fivepoint lead, 46 41 . That is basically what amounts to good news for President Trump at this point. But in ohio, the New York Times Sienna College poll shows biden and trump in a statistical tie, biden 45 , trump 44 . If you had told me that we were going to be talking about ohio at this stage in the game a year ago, i would have said that would be a real problem for the president. Meanwhile, the latest Fox News National poll shows biden up by ten, 53 43 . Its clear that the debate had a sizable and measurable impact on where we stand right now, just a few weeks out from the election. Still ahead here, weve got much more from last nights Vice President ial debate, including the moment that trumps finances came up and senator harris warning about health care. Plus, the white house physician calls President Trump symptomfree from the coronavirus, but there are still a number of Unanswered Questions about his health. Well talk about that. But before we go to break, we want to know, why are you awa awake . Email us your reasons for being up and watching waytooear watching waytooearly msnbc. Com or tweet kasie, and we will have your pictures coming up later in the show. E will have your pictures coming up later in the show. However, there is one thing you can be certain of. The men and woman of the United States postal service. 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Im kasie hunt. Lets start with last nights showdown between the Vice President ial contenders. At one point during the debate, senator harris brought up the president s finances and called for transparency on the issue. Watch. We now know because of great Investigative Journalism that donald trump paid 750 in taxes. When i first heard about it, i l literally said, you mean 750,000 . And it was like, no, 750. We now know donald trump owes and is in debt for 400 million. And just so everyone is clear, when we say in debt, it means you owe money to somebody. And itd be really good to know who the president of the United States, the commander in chief, owes money to, because the American People have a right to know what is influencing the president s decisions. The American People have a president who is a businessman, is a jobcreator, whos paid tens of millions of dollars in taxes payroll taxes, property taxes. Hes created tens of thousands of american jobs. The president said those public reports are not accurate, and the president s also released literally stacks of Financial Disclosures the American People can review, just as the law allows. But not his tax returns for the millionth time. When focusing on perhaps the most crucial policy of the election to democrats, senator harris gave a Strong Defense of the Affordable Care act and added what a Biden Administration would do to expand it. If you have a preexisting condition heart disease, diabetes, Breast Cancer theyre coming for you. If you love someone who has a preexisting condition thats nonsense. Thank you, senator harris theyre coming for you. If you are under the age of 26 on your parents coverage, theyre coming for you. But lets look at what also is before the court, its the Affordable Care act. Like, literally, in the midst of a Public Health pandemic, when over 210,000 people have died and 7 Million People probably have what will be in the future considered a preexisting condition because you contracted the virus, donald trump is in court right now trying to get rid of the Affordable Care act. And i said it before and it bears repeating, this means that there will be no more protections, if they win, for people with preexisting conditions. This means that over 20 Million People will lose your coverage. It means that if youre under the age of 26, you cant stay on your parents coverage anymore. And heres the thing, the contrast couldnt be more clear. Theyre trying to get rid of the Affordable Care act. Joe biden is saying lets expand coverage, lets give you a choice much a public option or private coverage, lets bring down premiums thank you, senator harris. Lets lower medicare eligibility to 60. Joining us now, republican strategist michael steele. He served as a top aide for former House Speaker john boehner. Good morning, mike its great to see you so early. I really appreciate you getting up to talk through this with us. And the one thing i couldnt help, as i was watching this debate but notice is that it almost felt normal, like what normal used to be, back before donald trump was on every debate stage and everything just seemed to go completely hay wire. What were your top takeaways from last night . Do you think harris did what she needed to do . And what do you think mike pence accomplished or didnt last night . Well, first id like to thank you. Recognize im here because you were unable to book the fly. Thats true. Second, like millions of republicans, i woke up wishing that i could vote for the Vice President rather than the president. He was simply more disciplined, more methodical, more hinged than the president has ever been in these encounters. And the final thing i think that senator harris, on her first really big stage like this, the first oneonone nationally televised debate, she was less prepared than i thought she would have been, not on the Affordable Care act, where she was definitely ready for bear, but in talking about the covid pandemic and the economic crisis that has resulted. The narrative that the Vice President laid out on covid sounds very compelling. It is misleading in a number of ways, but senator harris didnt seem to be prepared for the arguments that he was going to make, and hes been making those arguments publicly for quite some time now. So, i think a good debate prep team would have researched his narrative on this issue and prepared her in a way that was far more effective on what is really the most, the Biggest Issue in this election. One question i think people had behind the scenes about harris and i take your point on the coronavirus question. But you know, joe biden has been running the kind of campaign that basically says, i am the safe and normal choice. I am a return to normalcy, i am a return to calm. He has been very careful not to do anything, either in the way that he acts, but also in the way that he approaches policy that would scare off independent voters or even former republicans from voting for him. And it was pointed out on stage last night that john kasich, the former republican governor, cindy mccain, others are supporting the biden campaign. Do you think harris managed to maintain that piece of their Campaign Message . Do you think that she sent that same message to voters . Because i do think there were, at least there was at least some focus on whether she, and how she laid out her own president ial campaign, would distract from that overall biden Campaign Message. Yes, but really only because people dont vote for the Vice President. Theyre voting for the top of the ticket. And fundamentally, donald trump is the republican candidate and mike pence cant do anything to change that. I thought that she was unnecessarily evasive on the question of packing the court. I think that the biden harris ticket in general would be well advised to pick an answer on that and give it, rather than continuing to dodge the question. I dont think fundamentally the Vice President ial debate changed the contours of this race, but i dont think that it increased the margin that former Vice President biden has in this race right now. Certainly, it seems like the standout night was for, as you pointed out, the fly on mike pences head, which may be something that we are all remembering many years from now once this is long past. Michael steel, thank you very much, my friend. Appreciate you getting up early. Hope to see you again soon. It has been less than a week since President Trumps diagnosis, if you can believe that. And while the white house physician says hes symptomfree, he offered no further details about the president s treatment. The Statement Released by dr. Sean conley also revealed that trump has antibodies to the coronavirus. However, some immuneologists argue those results are virtually meaningless, since days earlier, the president received a large dose of regeneron, an experimental antibody cocktail that would show up in his bloodstream, this as questions continue to mount over the timing of trumps infection and whether he was contagious during his debate with joe biden last week. The white house declines to say when trump last tested negative for the virus, and his medical team hasnt provided the results of chest xrays or lung scans that could give us a better sense of how sick he really is. Dr. Zeke emanuel tweeted in part, the fact that they tested for antibodies not a routine test thursday night suggests that white house docs knew that trump was covid positive. President trump, meanwhile, is reportedly eager to resume campaigning. A person familiar with the matter tells nbc news that the Trump Campaign is discussing possible travel events for next week, before and after the debate in miami, in which the president still intends to participate. Would you go to a Trump Campaign event just days after he was diagnosed with covid . Still ahead here, to be a fly on the wall, or, rather, mike pences head. Oh, dear. The closer look at what is likely to be the most memorable moment from last nights Vice President ial debate, coming up next in the cooler. Way too early back in just a moment. Tired of clean clothes that just dont smell clean . What if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks . Now they can this towel has already been used and it still smells fresh. Pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load and enjoy fresher smelling laundry for up to 12weeks. Sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. Shes confident, protected, her strength respected. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. Time now to gather around the water cooler to talk about the one and only thing that people will be talking about today, the hot topic issued from last nights debate were not the only things that were causing a buzz. There was the fly. A fly flew around the debate stage and eventually landed on mike pences hair. Yes, you heard me correctly. If you saw the debate, its probably all you could see as well, a fly. There it is. Theres the fly. The Vice President and senator Kamala Harris didnt seem to notice, and they kept on with the conversation. The fly hung out there on pences head for, if you can believe it, two to three seconds before flying away on its own. There it is, look, just hanging out. Of course, social media, twitter had a field day with the fly. Accounts were created in the flys honor. Celebrities and politicians added their two cents. And latenight hosts seized on the moment. mikepencesfly, the new account created last night, with over 90,000 followers already lord of the lies. Monica lewinsky tweeted one fly over the couckoocuckoos nest. And Julia Louisdreyfus said, i wish we had thought of this on veep, who controls the fly . And tweeting if this happened to trump, hed deduct it for 70,000. But perhaps the best response of the night came from the biden campaign, less than five minutes after the end of the debate. They tweeted, pitch in 5 to help this campaign fly, look at that. There is naturally a photo there of the former Vice President with a fly swatter. And they actually took that fly swatter and added it to its list to their list of merchandise. It says truth over flies, and its already sold out. I think we could keep we could keep up with these tweets and jokes all morning. Overall, a very buzzworthy evening, as they say. Still ahead here, weve got an early look at whats driving the day on wall street. 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They obviously took a sharp dive when the president killed off those stimulus talks, but now there is the possibility that they might do something at least for the airlines. What do you know . Good morning. Well, at this stage, we are setting up for another positive session on wall street, following the best trading day for the dow since july yesterday. This commentary around the piecemeal approach targeted support for the airlines has been welcomed by investors. Keep in mind, there was that initial disappointment when it seemed unlikely that were going to get a big, large, fiscal stimulus package to again support the economy pre election, but investors are comfortable with this coming of after the election. A lot of trading is around the inflationary feeling that if there is a blue wave victory for the democrats, it could be supportive of various sectors of the economy some materials, technology, and banks have all been moving on that. And of course, any talk of fiscal stimulus is just positive for the overall market direction, even if its smaller than anticipated. Keep in mind, many are now also looking towards earnings season, so thats another factor as we look for recovery in some of the profitability of hardhit companies. In terms of what companies. In terms of today, markets are focused on the data and this as the fed is communicating in the latest minutes from september they are concerned about whether the economy does lose momentum if there isnt more fiscal support forthcoming. So keep an eye out for that. Some disappointed in the market not targeting the inflation framework. Thats been targeted in recent weeks. Can we talk about facebook as well and they announced yesterday theyre going to suspend all political ads on and of election day. What can you tell us about that decision . Its a strong move by the social media platform that has been criticized for its handling of political information in recent years. So there will be a pause on all political ads until after the election. Mark zuckerberg commented there was a potential for civil unrest given how deep the divides are and a delayed outcome. The president is throwing some doubt as to whether hell accept the election outcome. So its an effort to stop any premature calling of the election. You see the boycott of spending on the platform, so these moves are seen as a way to target some of the concerns. Back to you in the studio. All right. Cnbcs karen cho, thank you very much. Earlier on in the show, we asked why are you awake . Liz is up and hitting the treadmill before heading off to teach fourth grade. One of the heroes among us. And trying to figure out which snl cast member will play the fly on the debate skit this saturday. Excellent question. Janet is up because of this little guy named miles. 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What is your 1 big thing for this morning and i dont think i think we have talked enough about the fly even though that probably is the big thing. Im hoping you have Something Else. Its the 1 big thing, the return of normal politics. I felt like i had been watching a Vice President ial they were polite and twitter mentioned this morning all about the fly. Were just focusing more on memes and the policy debate and it was a return to normal. Both candidates did a great job of not answering questions. They didnt want to answer from Climate Change to china. They did a good job of ducking and dodging. One of the most important one of those is when both candidates was asked about what it is like being the Vice President of the oldest president s and if theres any talk of contingency plans, they ducked that one. I think two takeaways for from each of the candidates, mike pence no daylight between him and the boss. He praised President Trump repeatedly for the handling of the coronavirus pandemic and of course senator harris she was ducking and dodging on a big issue on the democratic side about whether to pack the court, adding justices to the Supreme Court. I mean, the bottom line on all of this is that we didnt learn a ton and probably didnt change a whole lot of the structure of the race. I mean, its hard to find a Vice President ial debate in the past that has fundamentally changed things but it does seem like both of these candidates showed up and did what each side perceived they needed to do without any major mistakes or problems for either one. One thing kind of overlaying all of this and of course the visuals on stage underscored the reality were all living. The plexiglas that was put up between these two, the questions about whether mike pence had been exposed. Hes the head of the Coronavirus Task force and we know that cases of the coronavirus are up in at least 23 states. Only going down in about four. I mean, that seems to me that voters are being reminded about this pandemic and the administrations failures to get it under control just as theyre making their decisions about how to vote. 100 . You saw that in the debate yesterday with Kamala Harris repeatedly drawing the debate back to the coronavirus pandemic and we have another weekly update of the famous map of the United States on the axios. Com this morning looking at that almost half of the states the case rates are going up. Increasing broadly. The United States does not have this virus under control and with 40,000 plus each cases each day, were a long way from where dr. Fauci says we need to be. Its october were headed into the flu season and as the weather gets colder, 40,000 cases is not a good place to be as we head into the winter. This has been sort of the standard map for us. The big spike earlier this summer and we saw some good news in the late summer but now we seems to have flattened which is not showing a lot of improvement at all. In the state of wisconsin, it stood out as thats been a state that we obviously have been watching. The race has moved out of the midwest a little bit but its spiking there. Let me ask you about the vaccine question. Because we saw this video from the president where he said he had been cured, then on the debate stage of course there were questions and Kamala Harris said i will absolutely take a vaccine if the Health Officials say i should but not if the president says i should. Is the white house still banking on a vaccine or a quote unquote cure ahead of the election as the solution to their problems in this regard . In President Trumps remarks yesterday, these taped remarks he said well have some kind of therapeutic or cure, but the companies are saying dont expect a widespread rollout or approval of a vaccine until late in the year. Thank you very much. Well be reading axios a. M. In a little bit. My question is that last one in the debate that mike wednesday didnt answer what is he personally going to do if there is no peaceful transfer of power . Something im looking out for today. That was way too early for this thursday morning. Thanks for being with us. Morning joe starts right now. Every major its a nasty fly. I dont like those suckers. I dont know about you in but im not into flies or mosquitos. Im the only one on this stage whos prosecuted the big banks for