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About it. Ive seen zero intelligence that russia is doing anything to help to help to help President Trump get reelected. Projected winner. Whos happy and whos getting worried about Bernie Sanders momentum. A mystery in palm beach athat hthat has slipped under the radar, where six Chinese Tourists or were they spies from china . New reports of russia again attempting to interfere in u. S. Elections. Democrats sounding the alarm. The russians never stopped interfering in american politics. They dont just get involved in elections. They are involved every sing day. And analysis of what theyve been doing on twitter since 2016 has been pretty clear. They are weighing in over and over again in support of right wing causes, in support of Donald Trumps political agenda, and of course it stands to reason that they want donald trump reelected because he has been a gift to russia. Meanwhile, the white house denying reports the kremlin is trying to help trumps reelection and that contradicts the findings of u. S. Intelligence officials, also according to reports. As for the president , who is on his way to india for a state visit, also weighing in on the subject a bit earlier on the south lawn. Lets go to nbcs hans nichols joining us from the white house. Hans, good sunday to you, what did the president say about this . Roer reporter the president is, number one, accusing adam schiff of leaking all this, hes saying the democrats are doing this to somehow sabotage or sandbag Bernie Sanders chances for the nomination. Hes saying he has no inside knowledge and he hasnt been briefed on any of this intelligence. I asked him that question directly. Have a listen. Nobody said it. I read where russia is helping Bernie Sanders. Nobody said it to me at all. Nobody briefed me about that at all. The uh, what they try and do is, uh, certain people like certain people to have information. No different than its been. But i have not been briefed on that at all. Nobody told me about it. Reporter so alex, the rhetoric across the administration is consistent this morning. You have the president saying he wasnt briefed. You have marc short on the sunday shows saying they didnt receive any intelligence. And Robert Obrien, National Security adviser, is also saying the same thing. We dont know to what extent there may have been a key briefing that people were involved in. But theres flat denial across the line from the president. The president , when he walked over to us a couple of hours ago, he made a point of congratulating Bernie Sanders and made a point of trying to foment extedissent within the Democratic Party, saying it may be rigged against Bernie Sanders, like people tried to rig things against me. So the president , in perhaps the clearest hes been, says he thinks bernie will be the nominee and hes preparing to meet him in the general election, alex. Okay. Hans nichols from the white house, getting us started, thank you so much. Joining me now, msnbc contributor charlie savage, also the washington correspondent for the New York Times. Charlie, can you clarify what is really going on here as we have the president s National Security adviser saying he has seen reports that russia wants sanders to be elected president but also said he has not heard anything to suggest russia is trying to get trump reelected. What is your take on this . I think theres a lot of murk around this and obviously reporters on the outside are trying to see this through a glass darkly. What theyre trying to see, through leaks and fragments of information that we mosaic together, is what the Intelligence Community is also struggling to understand about what russia is up to, through its own imperfect mix of intelligence and analysis. The Intelligence Community should put out an Intelligence Community assessment saying exactly what they think is happening in a declassified form and then we dont have to say do we believe trump or his National Security adviser or not. Lets hear what they have to say. But right now the imperfect information is allowing spin for political purposes in all kinds of directions. Okay. I want to parse words here and get really detailed because Trump Administration officials, and specific to the president himself, lets say, they say they havent seen the intelligence showing that russian interference is evident in the campaigns. What does that mean . Does it mean the president has not actually laid eyes on the intelligence . Hasnt he been briefed on this . Reporter one would hope. Of course we also know, though, that trump doesnt necessarily like to hear intelligence, whether its about 2016 or 2020, about russian interference. He still is smarting over the implication that even if there was no proven conspiracy with his campaign with russia, nevertheless russia was trying to help him win in 2016. He thinks that takes away from the legitimacy of his narrow election back then. There are plenty of reporting streams from all directions about how this is not something you want to bring up with the president. So i dont know whats going on in 2020. We do know that Joseph Maguire was just ousted from the dni position surrounding this and concurrent with this blowup over what the House Intelligence Committee was told. And the whole thing looks very troubling from a perspective of whether candid intelligence that may not be what the president wants to hear is going to reach congress and even reach the oval office. Suffice it to say, the president and his advisers are brushing off this threat. But what kind of message does that send and how damaging could that be . Right, well, one of the difficulties of all this is both in 2016 and now, is the conflation of different insights. Did russia attempt to interfere in the election . Did it attempt to do so in favor of a particular candidate . And what do we make of that now . The trump world message of the russia hoax and the russia hoax is happening again tends to conflate the whole collusion question with the pretty much undeniable, entirely undeniable fact that russia did in 2016 at least attempt to manipulate our electoral process. And i think that same disinformation or confusion or murkiness is now clouding our attempts to understand whats happening in real time at this moment. So if i ask you what is happening right now in terms of where does the truth lie, can you answer that . I would be lying if i said i did. I think a lot of the people putting out hot takes in all directions, speaking on sunday shows with great confidence and authority that this is whats happening, everyone should look at all of those across the spectrum with a grain of salt right now. The whole thing is extremely troubling and extremely difficult to parse. And i think even inside the use government, they may not fully understand what theyre looking at, if theyre honest with themselves about it. Charlie savage, what are you doing here request with me . Get back to figuring it all out so we can answer the question. Thank you, my friend. Nbc is projecting Bernie Sanders will win the nevada caucuses. Hes been awarded 13 of the 36 nevada delegates. The key groups supporting sanders, voters under age 30, lati latinos. Joe biden has 19 , Pete Buttigieg 15 . Now Bernie Sanders and his wife celebrating with supporters in texas last night, the crowd cheering and chanting as he pushed his campaign message. Brothers and sisters, if we stand together, we will not only defeat trump, we will transform this country and create a government and an economy that works for all of us, not wealthy campaign contributors. Thank you all very much. Today the candidates are spread across the country, covering eight states in a campaigning brilitz ahead of soh carolinas primary, where joe biden is leading. Biden is campaigning in South Carolina today. Earlier he was asked about his support in the state and whether he can hold onto it. Pete buttigieg also in South Carolina today, hes raising questions about the results from nevadas caucuses. In fact his campaign sent a letter to the States Democratic Party alleging errors in caucus reporting of early voting, asking that they release those totals, correct alignment errors and explain anomalies in the data. And the next nine days are critical for the eight Democratic Candidates starting with tuesdays debate, then to saturdays South Carolina primary, then on to super tuesday were over 1,300 delegates are up for grabs. Joining me now, nbcs garrett haake, live still in las vegas, youve been there for a bit now, garrett. What all is at stake over these next nine days . Reporter oh, just everything, alex, in the democratic primary process. Look, the convention is not until this summer but this race could effectively be over come super tuesday if Bernie Sanders continues on the trajectory hes on now. Hes put together a coalition that none of the other candidates can match right now in terms of young voters and latino voters, breaking into the margins of older voters which had been the strength of joe biden and other rivals. Hes in texas yesterday and today, he spent a good portion of the leadup to nevada campaigning in california. These are the big delegaterich super tuesday states where he hopes the machine that he has built can give him a nearly insurmountable lead. Here he was last night in san antonio. What we showed is that our volunteers are prepared to knock on hundreds and hundreds of thousands of doors. [ cheering ] that no campaign has a Grassroots Movement like we do. Which is another reason why were going to win this election. Reporter and alex, it really is the case that no other candidate can match sanders army right now and the way hes able to compete nationally in all these states at once. If you look at the map and you see where these candidates are campaigning today, trying to make inroads in states where they think they have specific strength. Amy klobuchar in places like oklahoma and arkansas, north dakota today, those are super tuesday states many other candidates wont venture there, theyre more conservative, they may play well to her more moderate politics. Pete buttigieg has more in stake in North Carolina, he has to continue to use the early states, one into the next to the next. If youre joe biden, youre happy to come in second yesterday, albeit a distant second. Well know a lot after South Carolina. Super tuesday is just a few days after South Carolina, a very narrow window where we could see this race change dramatically or lock onto this course where Bernie Sanders is walking to the nomination. Given the fact that you have eyes on all these different candidates and campaigns, can you give me a sense what have the sentiment was from everyone but Bernie Sanders and joe biden with whom you referenced there, what they felt like leavining nevada . Reporter i think if youre Pete Buttigieg, there was some frustration. They thought they were going to come in around third place, they thought if they had a really good night they could get into second. Thats why you saw them releasing that letter, a complaint to the nevada Democratic Party about how the votes were counted. Theyre going to continue to fight this out. Elizabeth warrens campaign hoped they would get more of a bounce out of her debate performance, but you didnt see it reflected in the final count in nevada. Part of the reason four that may be that so much of the vote was in the early vote by the time she had that moment, the voting process was partially over. In New Hampshire claim banked votes from her great debate performance. Amy klobuchar put a lot of time and resources in nevada and she has the least of the three major remaining candidates. They were hoping to do better in reno and northern parts of the state. She has probably the toughest path and toughest argument to make of any candidate thats spent considerable amounts in the campaign, except possibly for tom steyer. Okay, garrett haake, you tth you so much. 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And here is what democratic strategist James Carville told my colleague Nicolle Wallace last night. If youre voting for him because you think hell within the election because hell galvanize heretofore sleepy parts of the electorate, youre a fool. Sounds like political suicide. It is. Joining me now, danielle moodiemills, host of woke a. F. Daily, don callaway, former Campaign Aide for due value patrick, and susan del percio, republican strategist. Danielle, what due make of what James Carville said there, is it political suicide for democrats potentially nominating sanders . No, i dont think its political suicide. I think what its showing is there is a deep fracture within the Democratic Party. There are folks that want us to continue along with the moderates and sevn centrists an Bernie Sanders represents the overhaul. Hes talking about big, substantive, ideological change. And young people, who frankly are struggling in this country, are grasping on to what hes saying in a very big way. Susan, the argument by the establishment democrats that bernie cant win, didnt republicans say the same thing about donald trump in 2016 . They sure did. But there is one different dynamic that were looking at right now, and its whoever the democrat nominee is, they will not have the same baggage as Hillary Clinton. And its not a knock against Hillary Clinton, its just a reality. She had one of the highest negative and untrustworthy numbers only to donald trump in 2016. But, you know, to danielles point, theres never a good time for a revolution if youre the establishment, tblit just doesn work out that way. If thats where the party is going to go, so be it. But it does come with consequences. And i think what James Carville is talking about, and someone like me who has worked in districts that are swing districts, is that it will be very hard to keep those swing districts, especially in the house, when you have a candidate that is for open borders, is for taking away health care, private insurance, from 150 million people, especially those in the suburbs, and youre going to provide a lot of free stuff while all these people in the suburbs are trying to make ends meet for their children. So its not necessarily im not saying its good or bad, but that is the reality you have to face. If you have a revolution, there are consequences. Look, to this revolution time that both you ladies are talking about, lets look at what sanders tweeted on friday. Ive got news for the republican establishment, ive got news for the democratic establishment, to a stop us. This strategy has proven fruitful because sanders has gained supporters here. But when it comes time to win the election, wont he need the socalled democratic establishment . Of course he will. And hes going to have to have the support of democrats writ large who decide to do the pragmatic thing and vote for the democrat or even hold their nose to vote trump out of there, which is ultimately all of our goals. Since its sunday, the word of the lord, putting new wine in old wine skins, eventually it wont work, thats the existential dilemma the Democratic Party is facing right now. You have young voters who came up with the idea of barack obama being a centrist, now the bernie revolution happens and the old wine skins are the Democratic Party represented by James Carville. The mix wont work. We have to find a new establishment, new leaders, new operatives who step up from this new generation of folks. And James Carville, no personal diss to him, but he is a personification of those old wine skins. He will never embrace a bernie. What he doesnt realize is the same thing that happened with the Republican Party in 2016, that the bernies and the trumps of the world have tapped into something that is happening outside of the acela corridor, outside of the political chartering class. And we has democrats simply were not ready for the movement bernie built. But he is winning this thing fair and square. The question is not whether bernie will win this nomination. Its his nomination. The question is is this bernies party. Youre calling James Carville old school, and when you look at who breaks for bernie, its the young generation by a long shot. The older generation, from what we got from exit polls in nevada, they tended to vote for joe biden. Susan, as you look at these results, Bernie Sanders has 47 , but if you combined biden, klobuchar, buttigieg, all of their percentages add up to 39 . And we should say theres only 50 reporting at this point. But at this point, you have these three candidates splitting the moderate vote. So does that in turn boost sanders . It depends. There is one thing i would like to point out when you talk about older and Younger Voters. The difference were seeing in this cycle, so far, and granted its only the third contest, is the Younger Voters this time are showing up. Usually the establishment relies on them not showing up, and thats why they tend to hold in the moderate zone because they play to older voters. If younger folks show up, then it is no longer the party of the establishment. It is that revolution. But the question is, for Bernie Sanders, is can he break more than 35 of the delegate count going into super tuesday or i should say super duper tuesday which is on march 17th, as im calling it, because it is another critical contest where 15 of the delegates will be up, and finally putting the delegate count over 50 . So thats going to be critical. But to me, im looking towards what happens on tuesday. Will the democrats, the other democrats say, okay, this strategy is not working for me, we need to go after Bernie Sanders . Lets take a look at a candidate on the ballot in nevada not being on the ballot, mayor Mike Bloomberg. Here is some of what he said to my colleague reverend al. Stop and frisk, youve apologized, youve said you regretted it. How do we repair some of the damage . Part of the answer is, ive sat down with groups of clergy and business people, africanamericans mostly, and asked their advice and asked for forgiveness. But i listened to what they had to say. And everybody has different views. I think what is clear is we had a policy, i was trying to stop 650 murders in new york city. The policy got carried away. And when i realized it, stopped it, cut 95 of it, and apologized. Ive tried to meet with people who have been stopped and people who their friends have been stopped to learn what its like. I never had the experience, and my daughters were never stopped, so i cant tell you that i was that close. And thats what im trying to fix. Danielle, look, ive spoken with you before and gotten your sense, you think that is a wholly insufficient answer there. But what do you need to hear from Mike Bloomberg to potentially throw support by him . I mean, look, im listening to that and i just hear how disingenuous it is. Like, i had no idea what it was like to be stopped. Of course you wouldnt because you were targeting black and latino men. And i think that honestly what i want to hear from Mike Bloomberg is the truth. We went forward with this policy, the only reason we stopped it is because of the federal government and the court cases that told us it was unconstitutional to racially profile people. And at the end of the day, now that im going after the presidency, im looking at this and saying to myself, yeah, it was wrong and we need to move forward. But i want to see policies that bloomberg is going to put forward for the africanamerican community. Ive constantly said the only person in this race who has a really good social justice and Racial Justice framework is elizabeth warren. She talks about the effects of Climate Change on marginized communities, on people of color, she talks about that as it pertains to health care and black mothers dying at a higher right than white mothers. So i want bloomberg to have a much better Racial Justice framework around his policies. And he doesnt. He talks about the racial wealth gap because he just learned about the burning and the massacre that happened in tulsa. Im thinking to myself, youre supposed to be an incredibly smart man, right . A multibillionaire over and over again. The idea that youre just learning about how these policies were traumatic to an entire generation of people i find problematic, incredibly disingenuous. And i want to see his policies that hes going to put forward that are actually going to remedy what he did in new york city. Avenuim going right to you, because you nearly fell over to that answer. I did. And i have dear friends on the Bloomberg Campaign. The thing i dont think Mike Bloomberg gets, if you hear him talk about it, he ultimately gets around to, but we did bring down crime. Thats unacceptable. There are other ways to bring down crime. Police accountability, community policing, give them books and love and attention, thats how i bring down crime, not pulling over black folks, like myself, and throwing them against the wall, his term, not mine. You have to go find 100,000 black and brown men and find and remediate their records. How many of them lost jobs, how many of them lost childcare and custody because of criminal records that emanated from unconstitutional stop and frisk . There is no way to fix it. Sitting down with reverend al or other africanamerican leaders is not going to get it done. Thats not a knock on Michael Bloomberg, its a knock against a really bad policy. When it comes to the debate, i actually agree with the two other guests. He doesnt have a very good answer so he has to pivot off of it. He has to stick with the apology. Im not suggesting its sufficient. Im saying a good debate strategy is to pif on t positiv pivot off of it. He can talk about other policies he wants to bring forward and work within the community. But thats not going to all happen in the debate. When hes there on tuesday night, hes got to be able to pivot off that question, frankly. Danielle, don, and susan, always good to see all three of you, thanks so much, guys. New insight into what russia is doing right now to affect the election. Do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging . Prevagen is the number one pharmacistrecommended memory support brand. 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Breaking news at this hour, white house officials denying today that russia is trying to help President Trump win a second term in office. On the sunday talk shows they questioned what officials told the House Intelligence Committee including whether russia is interfering in the 2020 election. The president last week called it democratic disinformation and today white house officials appear to be accepting the report about the Sanders Campaign but question whether analysis about the president even exists. How is russia interfering in the 2020 election . Well, there are these reports that they want Bernie Sanders to get elected president. Thats no surprise. He honeymooned in moscow. Have you seen analysis from the Intelligence Community showing one of russias aims is to republican President Trump . Yeah, i have not seen that, and i get pretty good access, as you know. Ive seen reports from that briefing at the Intel Committee, i wasnt there, but ive seen no intelligence that suggests that. Ive heard from the briefers thats not what they intended the story to be. Look, who knows what happened at the house, in the intelligence committee. I havent seen any evidence that russia is doing anything to attempt to get President Trump reelect reelected. Joining me, ned price, and former special assistant to president obama and a msnbc National Security analyst. Big welcome to you, ned. How do you interpret what Robert Obrien is saying today . Alex, my jaw dropped when i heard that from our National Security adviser. It is both inappropriate for a senior National Security official to be weighing in on domestic politics the way he was in that statement, essentially invoking something from senator sanders past and making it seem like it was purchaerfectly logi that the russians would be intervening on his behalf solely because of that. The executive branch has powerful antidote to russian disinformation and misinformation and the type of covert operation the russians ran against us in 2016 and that is public attribution, and what i mean by that is naming and shaming, including those from the Intelligence Community explaining to the American People at an unclassified level precisely what it is were seeing the russians do at this moment. It is not helpful for the National Security adviser to come on to dismiss one allegation but then to fuel the flames of another. It is not only reckless, as i said before, its actually dangerous because it actually helps the russians and does their job for them. Logistics here, Robert Obrien says he was in the meeting when the president was briefed one day after the Intel Committee briefing. Is it even possible, ned, that intelligence officials would give different information to the house and the president . Why is there such disparity in these positions . My suspicion here, alex, is that members of congress are listening to this through their partisan ears and seeing it with their partisan eyes. I think it is quite possible that a nuanced intelligence briefing was given in which there was discussion of russian motives and objectives and republicans heard it one way and democrats potentially heard it another. And it seems like President Trump heard it a third way, in a way that forced him or that at least led him to dismiss his National Intelligence director. But ned, so if youre getting an intelligence briefing, would it not be commonplace to name trump, name sanders, if youre trying to reveal this, youre saying nuanced things, but really, without attribution . Theres a lot of this that doesnt make sense to me. Look, when i worked at the cia, we were told to do three things in intelligence briefings. One is to tell the policy customer what you know, tell them what we dont know, and to tell them what you assess. And so i would be very surprised, if not shocked, to hear that a Senior Intelligence official, someone who has been around the block with years of experience under her belt, to hear that she went to congress and gave a muddled message on something this politically sensitive. I suspect that the briefing she gave was informed by the latest intelligence, it was predicated on the best analysis, but that republicans heard it in a way that really got their political hackles up. And that is incredibly dang dangerous, because look, we know Vladimir Putin is not a republican, Vladimir Putin is not a democrat. He is an opportunist. If we are going to combat russian interference in 2020, we need to take this on as americans. Chiefly we need a president who will cast aside his desire for reelection to treat this with the severity and with the importance and priority it deserves. Calling together his departments and agencies and making clear to Vladimir Putin that he will not accept this interference on his behalf, full stop. Whether or not thats going to happen, i guess the indication is this, the National Director of intelligence Robert Maguire was replaced. Anyone would look at the timing and think its curious, i guess we could describe it. One official said the president was not angry about the briefing, he had issues with the leaks. Lets take a listen to that. The president s frustration was that he wasnt briefed before they were briefed. So you had midlevel people going up into a very partisan environment that is supposed to be behind closed doors, chuck, that was supposed to be classified information, and yet it still was leaked out to the American People. Does that make sense to you . What do you take away from that . It really doesnt. I think the president is using this as a convenient excuse to replace the dni, a career professional, someone who had been a career professional, with someone who is nothing more than a fierce loyalist to donald trump. I think in the appointment of ric grenell as acting director of National Intelligence, President Trump has made clear he doesnt want a dni, he doesnt want someone to be his principal intelligence adviser, someone to lead the 17 departments and agencies that comprise our Intelligence Community. He wants a bill barr for the Intelligence Community. He wants someone to be there to protect his own interests, even above the national interests, even when President Trumps interests conflict with our National Security. What ric grenell lacks in intelligence experience, he effectively has none, not one day, he makes up for in fierce partisan loyalty in spades. I think that is precisely what President Trump wants out of this position. We have seen him prize loyalty, we have seen him prioritize allegiance across his government. Now i fear were seeing that within our Intelligence Community. Ive got a oneword response to that yikes ned price, thank you so much. Sobering. The gloves are off. Pughs n Pete Buttigiegs new strategy. Is he running out of time to close the gap . Butter poached, creamy and roasted. Or try lobster sauteed with crab, shrimp and more. So hurry in and lets lobsterfest. Or get it to go at red lobster dot com how we worship, or who we love. And the 2020 census is how that great promise is kept. Because this is the count that informs where hundreds of billions in funding will go each year for things like education, healthcare, and programs that touch us all. Shape your future. Start here. Learn more at 2020census. Gov youve been hearing a lot about 5g. But theres 5g. And then theres verizon 5g. Were building the most powerful 5g experience for america. 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As the Sanders Campaign celebrates a projected win in the silver state, other candidates are looking to the next primary contest, South Carolina. Thats where we find nbc road warrior priscilla thompson, priscilla, big welcome to you. Mayor pete has some issues with the caucus results. Whats that all about . Reporter yeah, thats right. So he started his day here in South Carolina attending Church Service after hopping off of a flight at around 4 30 a. M. But nevada is not far from his mind. His campaign actually sent a letter to the nevada Democratic Party late last night, early this morning, calling into question some of the results, outlining some discrepancies they saw. Theyre saying this is going to be a very close race between second and third place and theyre calling on the party to ensure that these results are accurate. But with that being said, hes got to turn his attention to this next contest here in South Carolina. So he attended Worship Service at the predominantly africanamerican church and he pitched a message of humility, saying he came before these voters, humbly asking for their vote. He also made a promise to them. Take a listen to what he had to say. My point standing before you is not to claim that i understand more than i do but rather to promise as the scripture says, not to lean onto my own understanding too much but to do a lot of listening along the way, not to say that i get it, but to promise to always surround myself with people who will let me know when i dont. Reporter i spoke to a pair of women as they left the Service Today and they said buttigieg is definitely in their top two and that they felt his message was authentic. Thats going to be the type of impression he hopes to make over the next few days in South Carolina before this race becomes a National Primary with super tuesday. Can i ask, priscilla, who their number one was, when you said those two women, he was in their top two, who else they were voting for . Reporter so one woman is also considering tom steyer. And the other woman would not share with me who she was considering as her second choice but i did ask, is it joe biden, hes been polling well here, and she says no, she wont be voting for joe biden on saturday. Very interesting. Priscilla thompson, well see you again, thank you so much. Lessons from democrats saying, please, not bernie. Were making it an even better deal. Now you can get two lines for only 55. That includes unlimited talk, text and data. With no annual service contracts. It also includes talk, text and data when traveling in mexico and canada. So if youre 55 and up, you can now get two lines for only 55. Because at tmobile, we have a plan designed just for you. You cant always stop for a fingerstick. 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He writes, the party actors who dont want to see sanders nominate ready finding like never trumpers before them that its awfully hard to stop a candidate if you cant agree on the alternative. Joining me now is rick wilson and amy alison. Welcome to you both. Rick, im going to ask you, do you see parallels in this evolution of sanders 2020 campaign and trumps in 2016 . Do you agree with that column . I think there are striking parallels. Look, the calculus in 2016, guys like jeb bush thought, i will wait until trump takes out marco. Marco, thought i will wait until he takes out ted cruz. All that, they all divided up a larger piece of the mipie. Its the same thing here by a person who is not a democrat, who does not share a lot of their goals to elect democrats up and down the ticket and who will do as trump has done. Trump cost the republicans 650 seats since he was elected. Bernie will make the senate out of reach and may put the house in danger if he is the nominee. The rest of the guys are so divided they cant focus on the fact that he is their main target right now. Look, trump won the presidency. Right . Well, look, he won against Hillary Clinton who had we ran a 30year campaign against hillary and so it became this binary choice that republicans swallowed hard and went to school on it. Amy, as we look ahead to super tuesday, here is what you tweeted on sanders. He has so much momentum in california. See how many people of color he is organizing there. His campaign learned a lot of lessons from 2016 and they invested a lot in california this time. Other campaigns will be hard pressed to catch up. What do you think his win in nevada means Going Forward for his campaign . Is he clearly the frontrunner to take on trump in 2020 . I think what we know for sure is the momentum is on progressive side. Thats what the base of the democrats, including women of color want. I have been here in nevada all week talking to women of color who are the base of the party. These are women who clean hotel rooms and are teachers and are grandmas. Many of them were Bernie Sanders supporters. What nevada showed was that the Sanders Campaign, with investment in people who look like them, organizing their own communities, holding a set of policies that really appeal, including health care among others, and a really topnotch organizing to get people to the polls, including early voting, those three make the Sanders Campaign formidable in my home state and the states to come. Its not a guarantee. States that have the next eight states that have substantial black population, black women, which has historically been a weakness for him, but in the last four years, they have made gains. If you look at South Carolina, he is almost neck and neck in terms of black support with biden. I think that lesson we cant take lessons from republicans who are upset about what trump has done to their party and still assume that moderate and white voters will win the day. Its with women of color. People of color and organizing on the ground. What do you think about what shes saying . If women of color show up and they vote for Bernie Sanders, that he can take out trump. Well the problem is this battle is waged in the Electoral College. We know how california will vote. There are 15 states, seven hotly in contention, wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, florida, those states are not as woke. They tend to be, the Northern Tier and industrial states, they tend to be moderate. They tend to be older, whiter. You will end up giving a lot of those people who switched from obama to trump, from bernie in the primary to trump in 2016, the same pathway to go down again, because theres an illusion out there that the midwest is this hot bed of hyperphyper progressivism. Trump can exploit those states that other Democratic Candidates could overcome. I think its going to be a great risk. The election california is what it is. New york is what it is. We know how they will vote. Those swing states are not as woke as the places where the democratic pry pimary is won. What do you think of his Electoral College math . Yeah. I think that argument is based on bad information. When we look at the numbers in places like arizona, texas, florida and georgia as well as the midwest, pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan, women of colors turnout up 3 to 5 , matching turnout rates when obama was reelected would win those states and win the Electoral College votes. Its not about woke. Most people of color and women of color, the most progressive voters and the most loyal democrats, what the Democratic Party and every campaign should be doing is having hundreds of millions of dollars in organizing and turning out the base. Thats people of color. Its not a occcultural shift. Its people most likely to support the democrats engage to the polls. Thats the path to winning. It isnt about some cultural mystery. Its about getting people of color organized and into the polls. I will let that be the last word. Thank you so much. The hypocrisy of the Trumps Administration deny of russian meddling. Oh, oh, oh, ozempic® announcer onceweekly ozempic® is helping many people with type 2 diabetes like james lower their blood sugar. A majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Heres your a1c. Oh my a1c is under 7 announcer and you may lose weight. Adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds. I lost almost 12 pounds oh announcer ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. Theres no increased risk. Oh and i only have to take it once a week. 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A clear frontrunner appears to be emerging in the 2020 democratic dog fight. 50 of the results in, its Bernie Sanders. Nbc is projecting he will win the nevada caucuses. He has been awarded 13 of those 36 nevada delegates. As for the other candidates, joe biden has 19 of the vote, Pete Buttigieg has 15 , warren has 10 , klobuchar has 5 . Sanders celebrating in texas last night, thanking his supporters and volunteers. In nevada and in New Hampshire and in iowa, what we showed is that our volunteers are prepared to knock on hundreds and hundreds of thousands of doors. That no campaign has a Grassroots Movement like we do, which is another reason why were going to win this election. The Buttigieg Campaign has questions about the nevada results. It sent a letter to the States Democratic Party asking that it release the totals. Correct alignment errors. Explain anomalies in the data. The candidates are back out on the campaign trail traveling across the country. They are covering eight states ahead of saturday South Carolina primary. A new poll shows joe biden leads followed by sanders. This morning, some candidates are touting their relationship with voters in the state and pointing to the importance of black voters. Whats happening is you if steyer spends tens of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars out campaigning. I think a lot is happening in terms of the amount of money being spent by the billionaires. To try to cut into the africanamerican vote. I think that has a lot to do with it. It is especially humbling in the middle of black History Month to think about what it means to stand before africanamerican voters and ask them for their vote. Because i know that that vote is not just an expression of a political preference. It is something that was hard won. That that vote is something that was kept often through violence out of black hands. I think i have done best with black people, i have done best with latinos. I think that when we get to the diverse democratic electorate, when we get to the diversity that is america and the Democratic Party, i do a lot better. South carolina happens to be a place that has a pretty high concentration of africanamericans. Those happen to be people that i talk to a lot and have a lot of have a long history of working with. With this hours reporters and analysts, we will explore the implications of the nevada caucuses and the way forward. Lets go to shaquille brewster. Its the day after Bernie Sanders projected win. He is looking beyond this coming saturdays primary in South Carolina. Whats he doing in texas ahead of super tuesday . Reporter he is spending a lot of time here. Yesterday, it was san antonio and el paso. Today, houston and austin, texas. You see the arena behind me. The supporters are starting to fill in now. I spoke to people who are standing in line as early as 8 00 a. M. This morning. When you look at those nevada entrance polls, you see signs of growth for senator sanders. He had 51 of latino voters in that Democratic Caucus there. 44 of all nonwhite voters. He was competing among people who consider themselves moderate voters. Thats a formula this campaign feels is a winning formula for them not only in nevada but can be successful beyond. Listen to what senator sanders said the last time we heard from him last night. In nevada, we have just put together a multigenerational, Multiracial Coalition which is going to not only win in nevada, its going to sweep this country. Dont tell anybody i dont want to get them nervous. We are going to win the democratic primary in texas. Reporter you see senator sanders making a strong super tuesday statement. These are the bigger, more delegate rich states he is going to. He is in texas today. He is going to South Carolina. You throw in North Carolina and virginia in there. Its very clear, this is a campaign that feels good about nationalizing their message. Of course, with all this attention and this clear frontrunner status, there will be more scrutiny coming his way. I talked to his supporters. They said, they are expecting that. They know knives may be out from other candidates. They reference the democratic establishment. They feel like the democratic establishment, as sanders said, may be getting nervous with his success. Something many of his supporters believe is they see with him winning, they feel like he is three for three at this point. He won the popular vote in iowa, did well in New Hampshire, won in nevada. They feel like this streak of winning will lead to more people coming to his side, more people growing into his movement. They feel like winning leads to more winning. Thats what this campaign is hoping for. Shaq, thank you very much for that. Lets go and head over to lee aleeann caldwell. How are democrats reacting to sanders being the one to beat . Reporter sanders success in nevada its this momentum that he has moving forward. Its forcing democrats, especially the democratic establishment, to realize he could be the nominee. The reason that is causing some jitters among democrats is because they are not only worried wondering if he is the right person to beat trump but also if he is the right person to help democrats down ballot. Chuck todd asked the congressman from South Carolina that on meet the press. Here is what he had to say. I think that Bernie Sanders brings a lot to the table for people to consider. I know why he is nervous like that. Anybody who refers to themself as a democratic socialist. That word has had a really dire consequences tlou s throughout carolina. Reporter that word democratic socialist is what is most concerning for so many democrats. When you look down ballot, they are trying to maintain their majority in the house of representatives. They are trying to maintain or win the majority in the senate. They are worried the voters that they need to attract, especially the suburban voters that propels democrats to victory in 2018, might not get on board with sanders message, that democratic socialist, a wholesale change to how the government works, bigger government programs, medicare for all, changing the economy. So whether they have to go compete in these red districts, red states or purple and swing districts, democrats are concerned about sanders at the top of the ticket. Sanders is going to have to do a lot of work to convince these democrats should he be the nominee he will be able to propel them over the finish line. Nobody is taking anything for granted at this point. Thank you very much. Lets turn now to the candidate not on the ballot in nevada, Michael Bloomberg, still nine days away from appearing on his first ballot. He remains a large presence in the race. Joining me is sabrina singh. Welcome to you. Lets get into it here. Im sure you are familiar with the new cbs poll. It shows that if bloomberg were campaigning in the South Carolina primary, he would have a full 41 of democratic voters there considering voting for him. 59 say they would not. Does the Campaign Wish it had reconsidered campaigning in South Carolina . Thank you for having me this weekend and on a sunday. No. We dont regret anything about this. Our strategy has been to look ahead at the super tuesday states and beyond. You have to remember that mike only got into the race late november, i believe november 21 was when he actually announced his candidacy. It was not going to be enough time to lay a Grassroots Network and put an infrastructure into the early states. We have had the benefit of traveling to the super tuesday states and beyond to not only the delegate rich states but to continue campaigning across this country while the other candidates in this race have only been able to focus on the four early states in this primary. Interestingly, sanders projected win in under never comes days after axios reported on the memo released by the Bloomberg Campaign. It warned sanders would gain a seemingly insurmountable lead. Is this still the Bloomberg Campaign position after nevada . If so, why should it be that those moderate candidates drop out . We are the only campaign in this race right now that has the resources and the infrastructure in all the super tuesday states and beyond to compete. Not only against donald trump but against sanders. I think leigh ann was talking about this. Sanders will be a drag on the down ballot races, particularly in house races that were won by a few points. We need someone that can bring this party together, that can appeal tore m not moderates and independents. We need a candidate that can reach across to all voters. The only candidate its not a democratic socialist. Its someone like Mike Bloomberg. With regard to the debate the other night, in terms of the performance by Mike Bloomberg, was he able to reach out to those people that you are specific trying to get . Since it doesnt appear that he did that well in the debate, why should he be telling those moderates, you guys, move aside for me . He has yet to prove himself that he would be able to reach those moderate and leaning voters. I think what you saw last week was someone that had not been on the debate stage since 2009. Were talking about over ten years of not being on not only a debate stage but with five other candidates who have had many debates to practice and get better. I think come next week, we will see in two days, you know, mike coming back out on stage and bringing his message to the people and talking about why he will be the best president. At the end of the day, this party needs someone that cannot only heal the party, bring people together, but reach out to the independents and republicans that we need to defeat donald trump in 2020. I think that might bloomberg is the only candidate to do that. Theres a report, which im sure you are familiar with, that said bloomberg is lobbying Democratic Party officials and donors allied with miss moderate opponents, trying to flip their allegiance to him and block sanders in the event of a brokered national convention. Is this a strategy as you head into july . We are reaching out to everyone and anyone everywhere who wants to support mike. Who is concerned that a socalled democratic socialist could win the nomination. We are reaching out to people. At the end of the day, we are not at super tuesday yet. We have more time. We have to see how super tuesday goes and beyond that to even be i think talking about a brokered convecti convection. Whether n it comes to a fair fight, if he thinks he can project an image to bring people under the tent, why should he tell others to back off . Other campaigns do not have the infrastructure and resources that we do to compete with donald trump. We have a robust digital arm that we know we will need to go up against donald trump and the rncs operation. They are using Digital Technology and platforms we didnt use in 2016. We are being creative. We have different people coming in from the private and political world to help us not only be a Robust Campaign but we are meeting people at every single platform that they consume knewnews. We are out there and talking to you. Look, there are others running lets point out that Mike Bloomberg has been out of government for some time. There are others that are life long democrats, which Michael Bloomberg is not. They are perhaps currently in government. Would it be something that bloomberg would consider maybe not today but soon down the road, i will back these people financially if i think they have a more viable road to a moderate candidate being nominated to run against donald trump . I think thats a lot of hypotheticals. We need to get through super tuesday and see where the state of the race we are in. I am expecting that we have been campaigning in these states where other candidates have not been going. So for us, its all about going to super tuesday, looking beyond. Then im happy to come back on when it gets to that time if we need to talk about that. I think its too early. Then consider yourself booked on that one. What do you expect to see from bloomberg in the debate tuesday . I think what we saw last week is he did deliver one of the most memorable lines. Its so great to be in a country where a democratic socialist can be a millionaire and own three homes. Expect him to continue to hold Bernie Sanders accountable. One thing that did not come up, which mike has been a huge proponent of is gun control. Reducing gun violence. We know that bernie has a record of voting against the brady bill five times in congress. This is a big issue for democrats and americans across the country, the issue of gun violence. I really would love it if at this next debate we can talk about guns. I would expect mike would hold bernie accountable. You know what may be coming because warren hammered on Mike Bloomberg regarding women suggest to nba. Three have been released. I dont know if they contacted the company to break and to be released from an nda. Its with the company and mike. What i can say is that as a woman on the Bloomberg Campaign, i have been treated with nothing but respect. I am surrounded by women who have worked for mike for 20, 30 years. This is a great place for women. I can say that if you come to our campaign office, its a majority of women office there. I am really proud to be working for mike. Looking forward for him to bring his views to the debate stage next week. I look forward to speaking with you again, sabrina singh. Why wont President Trump consider russia as trying to help him win reelection . A leading lawmaker has an opinion on that. K out the buttet has something for every lobster fan like wild caught lobster, butter poached, creamy and roasted. Or try lobster sauteed with crab, shrimp and more. So hurry in and lets lobsterfest. Or get it to go at red lobster dot com so hurry in and lets lobsterfest. The better question would be where do i not listen to it. While im eating my breakfast. On the edges of cliffs. On a ski lift. Everywhere. Download audible and start listening today. Looking to repair dry, damaged hair without weighing it down . Try pantene daily moisture renewal conditioner. 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They are weighing in over and over again in support of right wing causes, in support of Donald Trumps political agenda. Of course, it stands to reason that they want donald trump reelected, because he has been a gift to russia. The white house denying reports the kremlin is trying to help trumps reelection. That contradicts the finding of u. S. Intelligence officials according to reports. Here are two trump officials. Theres not intelligence that said that the russians are trying to help donald trump win elections. Theres no briefing that the president received that says president putin is doing anything to influence the elections in favor of President Trump. We havent seen that. President trump, on his way to india, also weighed in on the subject earlier on the south lawn. Lets go to hans nichols. What did the president say about this . Reporter the president clearly had a couple goals when he walked to the camera. He wanted to congratulate Bernie Sanders. He wanted to accuse adam schiff of coming with this idea that russia is already interfering in the election, at least on behalf of Bernie Sanders. He wanted to distance himself from any idea that he has any sort of briefing. I asked him if he has been briefed on russian efforts to meddle on behalf of sanders. Here is what he said. Nobody said it. I read where russia is helping Bernie Sanders. Nobody said it to me. Nobody briefed me about that at all. What they try and do is certain people like certain people to have information. No different than it has been. I have not been briefed on that at all. Nobody told me about it. Reporter thats consistent with sound you played earlier across the administration. They are claiming they have not received a briefing. Its a briefing russian is interfering on behalf of President Trump. Thats what obrien said. When i asked trump, it was about interfering on behalf of sanders. Again, a denial. What they are trying to do is blame adam schiff for this. They want to muddy the waters. That appears to be the strategy. They prepare for potential sanders nomination. We heard it from the president that he expected sanders to be the democratic nominee. We will see whether or not that changes. At least are a tore rhetoricall where the president is right now. Joining me now, shauna thomas. What is your take on this conflicting information . They say that they have heard reports that russia is working to make sure sanders gets elected but they havent heard about a russian push to have trump reelected. Do you believe that . Its hard to know what to believe the president has actually been briefed on. The thing thats really actually problematic is we know russian is trying to interfere in our elections. They interfered in 2016. They it makes sense they want to interfere in our elections. The disheartening thing about when the president comes out in front of the press as he did and talk to hans is it would be nice if his rhetoric actually matched some of the stuff this administration actually has done. The sanctions havent been lifted on russia. Chuck todd got at this today. The words a president says matter. One of his biggest things that he has going for him is he has a bully pull p bully pulpit. It would be good if he presented a united front with his Intelligence Community against russia, no matter if its true that they are trying to get him elected or get sanders elected or whatever. Frankly, its easy it would be easy for the president to dismiss the politics. He could take a swipe at adam schiff by dismissing politics and saying, i think we have to stop russia from interfering in our election. The question we always come back to with this, since 2016 is, why cant he just say that . If he could say that, then also these people in the Intelligence Community we have seen all of the reports that people are getting worried they are not able do their jobs. Their jobs are to protect you and i. I think that would go a long way to saying, do your job. The fact that some people in the Intelligence Community are concerned about telling the president for the truth for the fear how he will react to it. Right now, we will bring in jeff mason to join the conversation. Whats your take on this . Do you think that the president has not been briefed on this . Reporter its hard to say. He did say that he wasnt today. Yet, his twitter comments and comments from others would certainly indicate that this was on his radar. Whether or not there was an actual briefing or not, its hard to say. Its, however, consistent with what some other Administration Officials have been saying. They have been indicating not necessarily whether or not the president was briefed but that the information in that briefing is not exactly what democrats have been raising with regard to the threat of russia interve intervening, both for sanders and for the president. On that regard, do you think the administration is behind this idea of russia wanting sanders to win because it helps further did i vivide the democr party . I wouldnt say the administration is behind that. I think that it is becoming a talking point coming from the administration in terms of using that to divide. The president made a point of saying on the south lawn, where ha hans and i were standing, that he thought schiff had done this to hurt sanders because democrats were unhappy or the establishment democrats were unhappy with him becoming the standard ba standard bearer. Is there any chance the president might be saying that because he thinks of the candidates out there, that he could most easily beat Bernie Sanders . Is there something about his own polling that would suggest that . I dont have anything on the polling. I dont think it would be wrong to conclude that trump would be delighted to run against sapd s sanders. Accusing democrats or arguing democrats are pushing socialist policies, if he has a selfdescribed democratic socialist as his opponent in the general election, then he will very easily be able to continue using those arguments. I think that he and other people in his campaign would not be unhappy to see sanders as his opponent. In general, the president , his advisers who we heard from on sunday talk shows, they seem to brush off this threat. What message does that send . How dani how damaging could it be . It sends a sad message to the people who work in the agencies who are not political to poin e appointees and want to do whats best for the country. One of the thing ive been cussous wicus curious about is if the president wins another term, who even in the political appointments who is good at this, who cares, are going to take these jobs . You also wonder underneath that, how do you grow another generation of people who want to go into government if they are in a situation where perhaps their work is not appreciated . Thats something the Administration Needs to think about. You guys have given us a lot to think about. Thank you. A mystery in palm beach that has gone unnoticed. This time it has nothing to do with russia. Siren ] give me your hand i can save you. Lots of money with Liberty Mutual we customize your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Then taking photos from the water in some cases. Theres another instance january 4, two students drive past a guard. They drive around the base for half an hour. This is according to the complaint. Before they are stopped by security. Whats weird is that they willingly turn over their photos. What it seems to be is they are not spy masters them service s not spy masters them servis the. They have been asked to ask the photos. Its a web being run out of beijing. The fbi is concerned about this and is looking closely at this. Its very difficult to connect the dots. Whats interesting, the ones who selfidentify as tourists, you look at the phones. They are no tourists. Theres nothing on there that suggests they are tourists. They say, i came down here to see this site and that site. They know what to say. The photos of those sites arent on the phone. Instead, its the truman annex at a naval base that they got on. Its astonishing. The maralago cases, two women, their profiles are similar. Its similar, the Key West Naval base they send Young Chinese students. Then the women who were caught were at maralago. They are older. One of them, she served eight months in prison before being deported. She had heard about an event at maralago. It was canceled. She showed up. Trump was staying there at that time. She had multiple cell phones, usb drives. Even Radiofrequency Technology to detect hidden cameras. Who travels with that who is not doing that kind of thats a great question. You had another woman who maybe it was this woman. Spent time behind bars, supposed to be deported. Wasnt there a period of time she was not. They couldnt find her . The woman who had all those devices, she was arrested. Did spend eight months in jail. Actually now its unclear where she is. I have sources telling me one thing. Were not ready to report. They have kept it quiet. Authorities dont want this to be a big story. They dont want to mess up an investigation thats ongoing right now. Wasnt there a woman who went and she just walked on the property, a chinese woman, walked off the property and turned away at the front gate. Down in palm beach, if you go to maralago, theres not a sidewalk you can walk on. These are wealthy people who live here. This is a private club. Security. Exactly. She walked on the street and entered through the Service Entrance in the back. Its hard to do that. Maralago is porous. I have driven through that Service Entrance. When trump is not there, theres not a ton of security. That raises other questions. Should there be more security at maralago . From my experience . People going to maralago when theres not an event, membership or just presence of people is down. Theres not a ton of people going in there. She was able to wander on took photos with her phone. Look, frank ferglusi, being one of our National Security analysts, he said that is calling these things, these six different arrests as being coincidental. It takes a lot to organize coincidences like this. He is very suspicious. Its classic frank. Nobody says it better to him. This couldnt be anything other than a coordinated effort. Hes not the only one. It is being looked at . This is a top priority for the fbi. Lets just say in the southern part of the United States, because these are all these instances were close to very sensitive sites. The president s residence down in florida and a naval base that you dont wander onto. You have to try to get there. Its a very compelling sorry. Its really good. Good investigative reporting. Thank you so much. The democrats dilemma. At todays best western, stay two nights and get a free night for your next stay. One night, two nights, free night. Book now at bestwestern. Com. Free night. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. 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The title is, trump is going to cheat. How so . How do you expect the president to cheat . I think the challenge is that we almost cant imagine the number of ways he is going to cheat. We know he lies. We know he is going to continue telling lies. We know he will completely misrepresent his record. For example, the budget will cut medicare and medicaid. He will say he will add to it. We know its not true. We know he tried to cheat and was impeached for it. He basically exported an ally of ours in order to get political dirt on a political opponent. It was for his own personal gain. He has done it. He was acquitted by a completely partisan Republican Senate that was willing, basically, to give him what he wants. Now he is even more emboldened. We dont know what he is going to do. We dont know how its going to happen. In addition to that, one of the things we know is that he is launching this billion dollar Misinformation Campaign that the likes of which we have never seen. If you put it all together, its clear that he is not going to play by the same old typical political rules. We have always known that. I think whats coming into sharper relief is that its going to be chaotic. Thats kind of what he wants. I dont flow know if were prep to handle that. Not prepared to handle that, this is an electability crisis for the democratic nominee that he or she faces. How does one run against a president by the description you are portraying . Right. I think the challenge there are many is that we talk about electability as though its just about who has the policies that can attract obama trump voters and who can energize our base . Those are important questions. If we spend time worrying about how someone is going to hypothetically pay for medicare for all, we are missing the ball game here. I think that the dread perm permeating this is that we dont flow how to run against somebody who is not going to play by the rules. I dont think the answer is for us to do the same thing. I dont think the answer is for democrats to get in the mud and to lie and cheat. That breeds a cynicism about the process that will turn voters are we can put pressure on Senate Republicans to do things like actually pass Election Security bills that they are holding up. Make the case that its fundamentally unamerican to not protect our elections. There needs to be more public outrage about this. Since you say theres no amount of Fact Checking that can counter him, why is it the facts are not powerful enough to make a substantial case against this president . What does that say about society or how far we have slipped . I dont think it says that people want their elected officials to lie. It says more about the information environment were in. As we know, we live in this frag emergenciy fragmented media outlet. We know that Republican Voters only trust some outlets. Those outlets are propaganda machines for this white house. If they are getting distorted information or outright lies and they have come to believe that those things are true, its hard to break through. I think that so much of whats happening i talk about this in the piece. The president is doing so many different things. Things that in the past never would have been done. They are disqualifying. Add it up and it disorients you. You cant grasp it. Theres no way to hold onto it to combat it. I think after a while, people just sort of say, thats all politici politicians. Trump did a good job of maybing that case in 2016 that all politicians are like this. Of course, they are not. It makes people sort of cynical. I think what you are describing is sewing chaos. One last thing is you explore is the idea the president would not accept defeat. How do you see that playing out . I know that sound that would have sounded like a conspiracy theory. You wonder, maybe its possible. We dont know what it would look like technically if he lost an election and everybody agrees he lost. He would be escorted out. I think the fear is that he is generating distrust in the election. He is suggesting they are trying to rig it and he will continue to say the election would be rigged against him if he is not doing well. Its possible that republican secretary of states wouldnt certify election results. He will say, i dont agree with this. The Republican Party would go along with it in a way we have never seen before. Thats the danger of him not accepting the election. Every Single Person out there, every voter ought to read this article. Its called, trump is going to cheat. Its in the atlantic. Counting heads. Why so many people fear the beginning of the census. Mess. But scrubbing still takes time. Now theres new powerwash dish spray. Its the faster way to clean as you go. Just spray, wipe and rinse. It cleans grease five times faster. New dawn powerwash. 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We dont need the public to be confused in terms of which mail theyre receiving that says census is authentic and which is partisan scam. How can the rnc do that . Thats just flatout lying. Arent they asking questions about republican ideals or issues they would support . Its all political. Its not a census. Its not a census. I believe what the rnc is doing is using the fact that there is a high awareness that the 2020 census is coming, theyre using the word census as a fundraising ploy. We dont need that right now. What we need is the american publics confidence that the 2020 census is about to be undertaken and its safe and confidential and everybody should participate. Weve got to be accurate. Theres a poll from Pugh Research that found 56 of americans believe a Citizenship Question is still going to exist. The Supreme Court ruled against a census question, so its not going to be on the census. Why is there so much confusion . Because there was so much coverage of the administrations effort to add a question beginning in 2018 and most of 2019. We conducted our own poll of latino people across the country, and half of them, u. S. Citizens as well as immigrants, believe there will be a Citizenship Question on the form. That only leads to people having skepticism and doubt about whether or not they should participate. So we know, just one thing, our organization, we have to clean up the mess created by this administration, that have confused people about whether or not citizenship will be asked. Hour job is harder as well as the census bureaus job. Its the first time this census you will be able to respond online. Only one in five from that Pugh Research poll know that. In just a couple of seconds, can you tell me what the big challenge is with that for you . The big challenge is to make sure people understand they can respond online, by paperu paper or by phone. 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