attorney alvin bragg and special counsel jack smith. now, not showing it to you. filled with conspiracies and falsehoods and comes at an exceptionally tense moment in this country. fani willis is addressing this in a letter to staff saying it contains derogatory and false information and urges her team to stay above the fray. the letter obtained by nbc news reads in part "we have no personal feelings against those who investigate or prosecute and should not express any. this is business. it will never be personal. we have a job to do. in this office we prosecute based on the facts and the law. the law is non-partisan. you should feel no need to defend me." "i shared with this office 1/1,000 of negative derogatory comments received and invited you into an hour of my typical day. iable not concerned with calls, emails or ads and you should not concern yourself with them. your instruction from me ignore
company in contempt and levying a three $150,000 fine. now there is this warrant issued for twitter to turn over the records, where does this go n next? >> i think they are after more details about postings made by president trump, the whole basis of the indictment is that he spread falsehoods and others believed it and took actions in light of those falsehoods. many of us view that as an attack on the first amendment. what was curious as one of the footnotes said the district court found trump could be a flight risk and exactly where would he flee? donald trump's most recognized person, one of the most recognized in the world. he's being indicted in various jurisdictions, he hasn't gone on the lamb yet and yet the court found he was a flight risk. >> sandra: interesting stuff as we look at both of those developments today. if i could just go back to the
changed because of recent events? 50 changed because of recent events? sr we are still too early from the election for the voters who matter most in the general moderates, people who just instantly pay attention to politics, to really be watching these sorts of events closely. the hard—core supporters and primary voters are many times and primary voters are many times and so each candidate is sort of perfecting their message at this point and frankly, desantis is very far behind, so unless the structural factors changed tremendously not in trump's favour, he is so far sailing through this primary with all the falsehoods that he is spouting and all of the theories about himself. doctor, let's take a look at ron desantis. because we heard he sacked
to use his ceremonial role to fraudulently not certify the election t results and he still tried to persuade members of congress to prevent pr certification. in many ways, the predicate was set here on day one of the trump administration. the president directed his aides to insist on a lie about his inaugural crowd size and a day later here on meet the president the president's counselor, kellyanne conway, offered this awkwarday explanation. >> you're saying it's a falsehood and they're given sean spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. >> okay wait a minute. alternative facts? alternative facts are not facts, they're falsehoods. >> his presidency began with alternative facts and apparently ended with alternate electors.
relegation environment? i don't know. >> dana: i understand that. >> bill: i imagine changes a couple of years again, too. >> dana: glad you explained all of that. now i feel like i have a lot more to think about. i wanted to ask you about this. women's world cup did not come home to us this year. megan rapinho missed a penalty kick. sweden went on. and the women's team, they're disappointed, and america is grateful for all the players. but just felt like sometimes it was a hard time to root for. >> will: i think that's right. i think there's probably many people watching who just couldn't root for a team that doesn't seem to root for america. now, that's not going to be true of every girl on that team. and i want to be clear. i don't root against team u.s.a. that's not my choice. i always root for team u.s.a. nobody made it harder than this u.s. women's national team. they seemed to show shame in the united states. they're defined by celebrity activists who became victims in order to achieve celebrity. they told falsehoods about equal pay. they were defined by megan
>> they absolutely have to push back with the facts and the truth. right now the republican party has accepted a false bargain of being completely complicit in the rants of an unhinged man who is attacking the foundations of our law and order in this country. you can't sit back and respond in silence. otherwise the loudest voices in the room will get the most attention. unfortunately these are people who believe in conspiracy theories and lies. this is a purposeful tactic. donald trump knows this. his only defense is in a court of public opinion, not a court of law. he's been unsuccessful with these attempts in a court of law in the past. he was unsuccessful with his attempts to claim election fraud across the country, 60-plus cases defeated. you saw what rudy giuliani did in the court of public opinion in 2020, trying to put out falsehoods. he didn't say those things in court because there are consequences to that in a court of law. this absolutely needs to be a
it crosses the legal threshold when falsehoods are employed to facilitate criminal deeds. samuel double buell, a law professor and former prosecutor, perhaps sums it up best, speaking to the new york times, bill says there is no first amendment privilege for giving directions or suggestions to other people to engage in illegal acts. tony soprano cannot invoke the first amendment for telling his crew he wants someone whacked. special counsel jack smith outlined 21 false the surgeons made by trump that were allegedly used to persuade others to engage in criminal conduct. here is some of the bigger lies noted in the indictment. trump claimed and continues to claim that massive fraud change the outcome of the 2020 election and that he, in fact, one. this remains his overarching big lie, if you, will about the election, despite knowing that this narrative was false. as the indictment points out, numerous senior officials in his administration had told him this was false. he persisted and spreading the
breadth and depth of deceit that is genuinely astonishing, even when considering the track record of a man who has the washington post manage to tally -- over 30,000 falsehoods during his presidency. to put that in perspective, that's a staggering 21 lies per day. trump's allegations about the 2020 election were calculated to ignite a public uprising that would solidify his grip on power, even if it meant dismantling the very foundations of our 245 real democracy. according to the indictment, trump, quote, deliberately disregarded the truth and spread lies in order to create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election. trump's legal team, meanwhile, insists the first amendment protects him. yeah, as the indictment points out, every american has the right to express their views on the election, even if they know those views to be inaccurate,
representatives running for secretary of state fact checked not just giuliani but what some of the other pro trump republicans were promoting at that hearing. i think that is going to be front and center through these special grand juries as well, the grandeur itself, the grand jury itself, and they will hear from these former democratic lawmakers who raised concerns at the time that giuliani and other republicans were promoting these lies and falsehoods at a state legislative hearing. >> joyce, i have about 30 seconds left but i want to ask, you we have at least eight fake electors who already secured immunity deals from the dea. what does that indicate to you? >> it's a just fani willis will have a lot of cooperating coconspirators when she releases this indictment. >> and joyce, you know what i mean when i say i have 30 seconds left. as always, joyce, greg, thank you both so much. next, republican voters might actually be growing tired of
he'll have as many indictments as years spent in the white house. you just saw how trump is essentially vowing to do exactly that if he's elected again. but perhaps you've noticed how trump's allies have defended the ex-president's attempts at overthrowing american democracy by claiming he was just exercising his right to free speech. these trump world figures suddenly sound like champions of the first amendment. >> this is a violation of his right of free speech. >> this is an attack on free speech and political advocacy. and there's nothing that's more protected under the first amendment than political speech. >> you're entitled to question whether it was honest or not. that's the uniqueness of the first amendment. >> you even have a right to lie under the first amendment. >> it says you were spreading falsehoods, that you were undermining the integrity of the election. that's all part of the first amendment. >> what we have now is an administration that has