block the visa, the state department blocked it. that is according to testimony from one of mike pompeo s top officials, george kent. kent himself told house investigators this, knowing mr. shokin, a have full faith that it was a bun of hooey and he was looking to engage in a con game out of revenge because he lost his job. barrett burger, a former federal pros crecutor, former u attorney, also worked as assistant director for the fbi office for congressional affairs. and the assistant professor of politics. i have a full house, we have a lot to get into, greg, to you first, these claims by rudy giuliani, ais there any evidenc backing up what he is saying it.
yovanovitch. he said she has proof that she s perjured herself, which is an astonishing claim. and it was my understanding from the conversation last night that she asked him when he would provide these to law enforcement and he didn t have a good answer. i m not sure that law enforcement is interested. but like greg said, we ll see when he actually delivers the goods, what they are. so far, he has a bunch of dramatic statements he s given to the oa and outfit and he s just having a really good time. what obligation, shannon, does rudy giuliani have to provide these facts? he s putting out these unproven claims at this point. they re making their way around the media universe, so people are buying into it. but he hasn t provided anything. is he going to be forced to? we talked about it earlier, the shokin visa that he s claiming yovanovitch denied. that s a flat-out lie. the state department did it and the white house didn t overrule it. all of it because they believed shokin was cor
republican senator of nevada greg brower. what do you think that he does not have the republican votes to dismiss a potential senate trial if president trump is impeached? well, he may have two different groups and we re not quite sure how many members are in each group and one group, mitt romney would be behind and he s not sure there s enough there to justify a trial and he wants to get it behind us and there s another group, how many republicans think actually that they will benefit politically from having a trial. they haven t had a chance yet to run and the house democrats have been running the show and this is the first opportunity on the republican side and they can make rhetorical points and factual points, i hope, that will reverse public opinion and bring a majority against the whole proceeding and i just
server and we thought everybody wouldn t touch this again, certainly not this boldly. but here on the impeachment proceeding they go with who is giuliani meeting with in kyiv, he s meeting with the man whose father was kgb and head of intelligence of ukraine. the man himself went to a kgb school and graduated from a kgb school in moscow and this man belonged to a pro-russian party in the parliament of the ukraine and this is the guy he s doing business with now and they want to convince us this is all on the up and up? it s incredible. greg, in a word, is there any way that he s doing this on behalf of his client if his client does not know about it? well, he could he could be doing it on behalf of his client because he believes that it s good for his client even though his client isn t actually directing it. i think that s probably that s the out trump will have. a big part of what giuliani has done throughout this
from talking back in 2016. joining me now, former u.s. attorney greg brower, and and former democratic congressman, greg, how unusual is it for an attorney general to disagree with an ig report. stephanie, it is in my experience for unusual. and in this way, if the ag is in disagreement about one of the fundamental conclusions of the report, that would appear to have the aj taking the side of the official which is very unusual. it is often the case that agency officials will push back on push