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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:20:00

Relying on they may not ever be require to specify which those theories they may be able to go to th jury and say, we think trump was trying to commit one o these three things or conceal one of these thre things, by falsifying business records. that might legally be enough t get them over the line,. lindsey let s take a step back your mind of when the players here stormy daniels, michael cohen, karen mcdougal, david pecker the door man who can you see testifying i this does go to trial. well certainly michae cohen. just speaking up on what - the potential tax violations here you know, that has been thrown out there. bragg baited very brie reference to it. if the tax violation is that there was a conspiracy to le cohen defraud taxpayers by not being income on us, and i thin michael cohen would have t plead guilty to that, if that the crime that alvin bragg s

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:18:15

Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:18:15
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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:19:00

Authorities by disguising as come the reimbursements fo michael cohen have paid stormy daniels. what they did was double the amount of money that cohen would have been owed, that $180,000 that he was out for having paid stormy daniels, an then an unrelated payment to a pollster they doubled that. when he paid income tax, h would essentially be - he would receive that hundre 80,000 back. the other possibility is a state election law violation that deals with conspiring t promote the election of particular person to publi office through unlawful means. those unlawful means don t hav to be something that trump himself died it could be a conspiracy, fo example, among trump, cohen, and the folks at the nationa enquirer, to have paid karen mcdougal through the acquirer own funds in this fals business records on their end. i do think they have a numbe of possibilities, in the stage in the litigation, they re not legally required to specif which of those theories they r

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:18:00

Be his own it could be that he falsifie business records, for example, to cover up the fact tha michael cohen, and allen weisselberg, or conspiring t commit tax fraud, for example, with respect to cohen personal income taxes. as you think the da has a righ answer i agree with michael, some o these things are untested. i also trust that the manhatta da s office has been studyin this for a significant perio of time, and they have confidence that their case i going to hold up on this motio process, lindsey what if one of these cases, as in this indictment, that is in charge, is a federa campaign violation allegation. not a state one. you know, one of the things that s really interesting in a statement of facts, is tha allen lays out three possibilities for the ways in which this false records charge could b bumped up to a felony. one of them is, as michael mentions of campaign violation that michael cohen was charged with implied guilty to there were two more. one is an intense, by

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Transcripts for MSNBC Symone 20240604 20:22:00

To be used by the district attorney in the future when th case ultimately goes to trial. they will try to muddy up my name they will come after me, mak claims that i m unreliable, an that my credibility is an issue. they don t finish the sentence symone something we actually spok about when i was going in and saw you on rev owls show politicsnation at least finish your sentence. it s extremely important and when they say to me, cohen has no credibility, he s a convicted perjurer, and that i true, i did plead guilty t what is called 1001 violation, but i did not tell the truth t congress but it s important to finish the sentence, whereby what i did, of what i had said wa done at the direction of i coordination with, and for the benefit, extremely important

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