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another's throats. to think there would be an all-out apocalyptic race war kind of made sense to a lot of people. it wasn't as crazy as it might seem today. >> it was a real racial thing he was saying. but the way he was saying it made sense. it was almost like, yeah, they should rise up and they should have their time. we were all given buck knives. it was all part of, you know, when everything goes crazy you have to learn how to defend yourself so you don't get raped or killed or whatever. andless your knife would be you eat with it, you open a can with it. it's your survival tool. and then charlie would teach us to use a knife like they do in prison as part of your fist. never not one time was it you're
PeopleKindWarLotIt-wasn-tSenseRaceThroatsCrazyWayThingEverythingblacks and whites were at one another's throats. to think there would be an all-out apocalyptic race war kind of made sense to a lot of people. it wasn't as crazy as it might seem today. >> it was a real racial thing he was saying. but the way he was saying it made sense. it was almost like, yeah, they should rise up and they should have their time. we were all given buck knives. it was all part of, you know, when everything goes crazy you have to learn how to defend yourself so you don't get raped or killed or whatever. and also your knife would be, you eat with it, you open a can with it. it's your survival tool. and then charlie would teach us to use a knife like they do in prison as part of your fist. never not one time was it you're
PeopleWhitesKindWarBlacksLotIt-wasn-tSenseRaceThroatsCrazyOne-anothera letter? was that meant for me? >> yeah. >> how are you doing? >> so i see people when they need to be seen, when they asked to be seen, when somebody else thinks they need to be seen. i will see what's wrong, see what can be done in the institution to help them cope. >> the only way i can get out of this mood, i mean, i don't care, you can give me drugs, alcohol. the only way i can get out of moods is through self-injury. >> okay. >> group therapy in the shu is conducted with each inmate locked in a separate holding cell. dr. sims moderates this small group of self-mutilators. >> once i see my blood, i'm in another world. i'm a different -- i'm someone totally different from myself. i mean, that's the only time i actually, you know, can actually feel real, feel alive, and feel like everything's going to be okay. >> for me, it's being in control. my whole life, i felt like i wasn't in control. but then when i had times when i do cut myself, i'm in control of the situation. >> there are a group of people that self-injure when they come to prison as a way to control their level of pain, that when they're in so much pain that they don't know what to do, that they are starting to feel like suicide, that self-injury cuts their level of pain down, so it's pain control. >> self-injury really isn't bettering yourself. and sometimes people die. but i mean, it's just -- >> it's the survival tool that you developed. some people self-injure as a
PeopleSomebodyInstitutionLetterCopeSomeoneDouglas-mccombsAll-the-way-down-to-boneShuSelf-injuryGroupDrugsokay. >> for me, it's being in control. my whole life, i felt like i wasn't in control. but then when i had times when i do cut myself, i'm in control of the situation. >> there are a group of people that self-injure when they come to prison as a way to control their level of pain, that when they're in so much pain that they don't know what to do, that they are starting to feel like suicide, that self-injury cuts their level of pain down, so it's pain control. >> self-injury really isn't bettering yourself. and sometimes people die. but i mean, it's just -- >> it's the survival tool that you developed. some people self-injure as a manipulation. they're not getting what they want and they self-injure and then everybody's attention is focused on them and people are more willing to do what they want because they self-injure. >> it's like a baby crying wanting his bottle. you give the baby his bottle because he's crying or change his diaper. me, you give me something sharp to hurt myself with, and then i'm fine. >> we had people break tvs and cut their throats with them.
PeoplePrisonAll-the-way-down-to-boneLifeTimesControlGroupSituationBeingWasnt-in-controlLevelSelf-injurywho have reluctantly made that decision. government is coming in in a sweeping ways. there are cities and towns getting corrugated steel walls between them and the ocean. they didn't ask for that, but this looks like a survival tool. i want to know who is not coming back, i want to know who is not being served, and i want to know whose lives are being changed forever. we'll visit a place on tuesday where neighbors knew neighbors. you had no choice, you were heart against the other house. is that really going to come back? is it going to feel like the old place? >> this impact in weather becomes a big debate for people, especially where government can help and where government can't do anything. brian, thanks so much. >> david, thanks for having me. >> in a programming note here, brian will be anchoring special coverage live in breezy point to mark the sandy anniversary. that's "nightly news" this coming tuesday. w
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