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taya, thank you so much for being here. when row look at americans on campus -- when you look at americans on campus, going people chanting slogans outright supporting terrorist organizations saying we want more october 7s, burning the american flag, recounting what your father -- excuse me, your husband fought for, what does that make you think? >> well, i mean, i think you and my if husband i fought for freedom, right? and just like any good thing, freedom of speech can be abused. and i feel like this is a perfect example. it was intended for people to feel empowered and speak intelligently. not to do this, not to gather hatefully and speak hatefully against a group of other americans. we're americans first. and and anti-semitism has no place in america. further more as a yes, sir chan, i look to jesus -- christian, i look to jesus as my example, and he knew how to peacefully disagree with people and go on about the business of doing good. this is, in my opinion -- and i don't say this hatefully, i