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control what advice the former president was receiving, but certainly madeleine or molly would have been in position. >> let me clarify before i lose you. her desk would be right outside. she would know who goes in and out. >> the physical location was that she would have been right outside and everyone would have come by her desk. >> thanks so much, marc short. >> something interesting he said, donald trump was his own chief of staff. that's a theme we've talked about a lot here, which is that donald trump has been his own boss for a very, very, very long time. he ran the family business. he was president of the united states and called the shots. he ultimately decided from his gut often how his campaign was going to go. both in 2016 and in 2020. and now we're seeing, we don't know how many when we get someone who's been in the courtroom, how many, but he's been passing notes. obviously, he is somebody termed