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because they're on campus and jewish, is just as bad as if you did it because they were black or palestinian. you can't have a convenient moral code. you have to stand for everyone or nobody. >> amen. >> we'll follow this story as it develops. now, we turn to democratic senator raphael warnock of georgia who has just returned from a trip to italy. while there, the senator met with pope francis at the vatican. the two discussed some of the pressing issues facing the world at the moment, including the humanitarian crisis in gaza and russia's war on ukraine. senator warnock joins us now. i'm curious what you heard from the pope, senator, about the conflicts in gaza and ukraine. sort of faith leader to faith leader. >> thank you so very much, mika. it is great, always, to be with you. yes, i just returned yesterday from a visit to rome. spent time with the holy father.