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is interesting that the palace, they allow them to do it their own way. they are giving them that leeway and for kind of giving kate and william that space to create their family, which some would argue maybe has not happened in the past and that might have been some trouble facing william's parents along the way. it seems like a simple moment, william getting in the driver;s seat to drive them away. that's a big deal. folks said wow, that's a big deal. that's a break from royal tradition. >> and did it easily, as well. >> it's a big deal for everybody, by the way. as you know, very well, max, he's never been more nervous putting anything into anything in his life than putting that baby in his car seat. let me ask this question to the two of you, in their disposition to be normal, like you everybody, do you think that may actually magnify the draw to them in this kind of new blush of enthusiasm for the royals? >> i think the jury is out on