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on the bikes riding through, but the thing that is a little concerning for law enforcement officials that i have talked to is that there is no separation between the groups. the supporters of the former president and those protesting him and sort of like none of those metal barriers that we have seen in other situations. >> well, shimon, you say that some of the law enforcement sources say it is concerning, because we are not seeing the barriers put up just yet. >> yeah, i mean, i am surprised, because i was in manhattan when he appeared there, where donald trump appeared when he was arrested a couple of months ago, and completely different situation. you had met al barriers placed all around the courthouse, and the street that the former president was driving into, and walked completely blocked off, and we are not seeing any of that in this situation. it is very open, and people are