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does not open the university up to a line of litigation? >> i'm glad you brought that up because we've had other discussions on the program about how's eye, vague those instructions are. you can consider race but feel free to put it in your college as a because that's your experience. so you're saying this could spawn a cottage industry of litigation. like what? >> imagine a kid puts in a college essay, my parents are from senegal, i am black, i'm also a champion soccer player, and my dad happened to go to this university. there are a number of factors that are going to affect them, and maybe they consider that students race. so it has the student violated the law by thinking about this person's race? for the cottage industry point on this, i do wonder if you are a nonprofit that is opposed to the use of race in admissions, why aren't you suing every university over the coming years to get the records of their admissions decisions to try to figure out how these

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