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possibly disbarred. what is happening? >> well, he's taken a slide down a pole that's terrible for him. i feel terrible for him. i was never a big fan when he was the united states attorney in the southern district of new york, but you hate to see people fall like this. the argument that is the prosecutors in the d.c. bar case said was that his lawsuits were so frivolous, so dangerous to democracy, so without merit that the very severe sanction of disbarment was merited. i think overall it's a sad day for rudy giuliani and perhaps america, but he chose the course that he wanted to follow and he's suffering the consequences of his own decisions. >> overall the probe's involving the former president are multifaceted. the special counsel is also