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kushner. jared kushner was the secretary of everything. how is it possible he is not listed here? he was there. he was on donald's lap, from the entire time the day that donald entered the white house, to the day he left. >> how do you explain it? >> i believe he is a cooperating witness. >> jared kushner. that's interesting. people have pointed out that mark meadows is conspicuously absence from the indictment. but vch jury ared kushner is hi son-in-law. you think jared kushner would cooperate? >> you don't think donald wouldn't throw jared under the bus? it's an emphatic yes. >> you think the same is true about mark meadows? >> absolutely. what's one thing that bill barr said? donald trump doesn't care. he's a one-way street. that means in jared goes down, mark meadows, or rudy giuliani, or eastman, or any of them, he doesn't care. that's just who he is.