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tell us what potentially this means. >> it means grand jurors have had this at their disposal to determine whether they should indict these people involved here. it might not be a surprise that trump's legal team was involved. you remember giuliani and the efforts in courtrooms to try to make a case, even though they had no evidence to do so and they were quite open with the court of law, not court of public opinion. but the text messages, there's nothing better than tangible, hard evidence to say this is not speculating or opining or trying to read the tea leaves. here is what was communicated in being able to ask about each. every person on that chain has been on actual notice and they've got to prove it. what's very interesting is this umbrella of conspiracies, think of the burden of proof for each of those different things they've now got approved. they've got to show this tangled web of deception. they have to account for each and every aspect.