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fraudulent larry. if 8% of our budget is interest, quit borrowing, cut up the credit cards. you have to balance the budget every day, i had to balance the budget as governor. why is congress the only group that refuses to balance the budget? so we will stop the spending, we will stop the borrowing, we will eliminate the earmarks. and i will veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to pre-covid levels. that will save us trillions. and then we will go to take as many federal programs as we can, and send them down to the states. that will reduce the size of the federal government, but it will empower people on the ground. i think health care, and think wealth care, think education. if we started doing that. right now, 70% of federal employees are still working from home, three years after covid. 75% of most of our agencies are sitting empty. we are paying for that, we've got to start getting the waist out of government. this is not them coming to us, saying we need more money. this is us going to them saying you did this, now we're going to have to go and make the hard