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political commentator, democratic strategist, maria cardona and former at trump administration official, matt mauer is i want to play a bit of sound that mitch landrieu, the former new orleans mayor, who is one of the chairs of the binary luck campaign. what he told us the morning after donald trump s criminal conviction, because i might be connected to what we re seeing on capitol hill. listen to this joe biden. as you know, gets up every day thinking about the american people, thinking about trying to preserve our freedom, preserving democracy, making lives better if everybody else in donald trump wakes up every day thinking about himself so matt, on that point and here s the connection. does this play into that argument from some democrats? because now on capitol hill, where i don t think people have found them to be overly functional. the last several months, they re now saying it really is all about donald trump and just about donald trump. matt well, the most important thing is with donald trump says as long as donald