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i ve looked at a ton of polling on the president s age and the voter are friends about it. and what, what i, really, what i ve really found is that words don t really move the needle for most voters, it s not really what the person says about he s exactly right that what he needs to do is show people and that s why i think the president in his campaign so aggressively wanted to we have a debate so early in this process, it s why in a lot of the president s ads, you see the president speaking directly to camera because you want voters to see him. it s why we saw some movement in the numbers after the state of the union. so it really is he obviously is very prideful and he takes i think some i think, fair offense at the fact that he s accomplished so much in the people question is ability to do more. but ultimately he s going to have to show voters on the biggest stages that he can do this job. and that s where i think he s built. that s what his campaign is. strip is building their strategy around. so to your point about the people being in hermetically sealed sort of echo chambers. do you use your words is his