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to hold garland in contempt for not turning over audio recordings of president biden s interview with special counsel robert hur who declined to file charges against the president. let s turn now to cnn s katelyn polantz, who has been following this hearing. kaitlan, it did get a little bit fiery house specifically to the attorney general respond to these allegations surrounding donald trump s first criminal trial? well, he said it wasn t it was the state prosecutor in new york that did it and he used some pretty sharp words, especially for an attorney general that really doesn t get into political knife throwing that often. he said that the justice roman does not control the manhattan district attorney that brought at successfully convicted that case against donald trump. that the manhattan da made their own decisions and is completely independent. so we really was defending the justice department s independence from other cases now, this was a situation where garland was able to put a little bit more out there on the offensive