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firearm in question. but at the same time, she never saw anything in terms of him using it personally. so i am not surprise that the jurors are paying a lot of attention and that this testimony is really important and in fact, many ways the key testimony for prosecutors do you think prosecutors needed her to say that she saw hundred biden doing drugs in a certain range of time around the purchase of the weapon in order to get a conviction? >> well, i think if i were a juror, that's something that i would want to know. remember here that the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. and so i think if jurors are looking for some kind of reasonable doubt, if they feel empathetic in some way to hunter biden then maybe that black of a personal witnessing drug use could be incredibly important in their calculus during deliberations, but it certainly isn't. i think necessary for their case to be made.