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Happening now, a meeting between two of the most dangerous u. S. Adversaries may be in the works. Well tell you hat the u. S. Is saying about kim jonguns efforts to engage with Vladimir Putin. Also tonight, Burning Man Festival Goers finally get the green light to go home after a rare downpour in the desert left them trapped for days. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy is getting heat from gop hardliners as Congress Prepares to return to work and the nation once again faces a possible Government Shutdown. Welcome to all of our viewers around the United States. Wolf blitzer is off today. Im jim acosta. This is a Special Edition of the situation room. We begin with news of a potential bilateral meeting between two of washingtons biggest rivals. The news that North Koreian leader kim jongun may be facetoface with president Vladimir Putin in what would be a rare foreign visit. National security correspondent kylie atwood is covering the story for us. What kind of signal would this meeting send . Reporter if there is an engagement of this type between president putin and north Korean Leader kim jongun, it could signal by what were told by u. S. Officials are actively engaging on an arms deal. It reached the point for leader level decision. Thats key, hugely significant. According to the Nsc Spokesperson, adrian watson, its kim jongun who is expecting to have an engagement with president putin in russia. She didnt say exactly when u. S. Information expects that is going to happen according to the New York Times which first reported this. They said its likely to happen this month. When it comes to the backdrop here, jim, weve been hearing a lot from u. S. Officials over the course of the last weeks as they have said that theres actively advancing engagements between the two countries on this potential new arms deal. We saw Russian Defense minister Shoigu Travel to north korea in july. According to officials, he was trying to convince north korea to sell to russia ammunition. There was a followon following that meeting. We also know according to nsc that kim jongun and president putin have actually exchanged letters, talking about advancing the relationship between the two countries. It looks like there has been a backdrop, some significant work going into this over the course of the last few months. We dont know exactly what would be in this arms deal, but according to the Nsc Spokesperson john kirby, the u. S. Intelligence believes it would include ammunition for multiple different kinds of Russian Defense weaponry. That is hugely significant, and also Raw Materials for russias defense sector. Thats a key area, too, because we know that russia has long been plagued by the sanctions put on them due to this war. According to john kirby, the fact that russia is even looking to north korea for this support signals desperation and weakness. Its an area that well continue to watch to see when this potential engagement actually happens. A lot to keep our eyes on here. Kiley at wood, thank you very much. Mean white president putin met with his turkish counterpart to discuss the black sea grain arrangement. Cnns Nic Robertson is covering this story for us. Nic, what happened in this meeting . I dont think anything new happened. President erdogan walked the fine line between russia and ukraine, talked to both, tried to keep the options open on the table to find a way forward, went into this saying the world is watching president putin. That seems to be part of putins calculus here, to get erdogan in, and then to get his grievances about the grain deal out into a bigger public audience. By inviting the turkish president To Grain Deal Talks in russia, Vladimir Putin got a big platform to vent his grievances with ukraines western backers. Translator the west, to put it mildly, deceived us about humanitarian goals by the humanitarian black Sea Initiative to assist developing countries. Reporter but just hours ahead of the meeting, putins drones were destroying Vital Grain Stores in ukraine, as they have done with increased intensity since russia pulled Out Of The Black Sea grain deal in july. Recep erdogan went to sochi hoping to convince putin to accept a new u. N. Grain deal. If he had success, it might be slow coming. Translator i believe we will be able to reach a solution which fulfills the expectations soon. Reporter the deal was, in fact, two deals in parallel, one with ukraine, one with russia. Inspectors check cargos as grain ships exited the black sea and entered turkish waters. It lasted for a year before putin junilaterally pulled out. His reasons for exiting the deal apparently rooted in western sanctions imposed as a result of his illegal and unprovoked war of choice. Potentially now leveraging the grain deal to roll some sanctions back. Translator what we saw was that there was a refusal to renew deliveries of the agricultural spare parts, and also there were problems with them. Financial settlements and transaction fees. Reporter erdogan wants to be peacemaker, but in sochi seemed to scold ukraine and legitimize putin. Translator in order to be able to take common steps with russia, ukraine needs to soften its approach. Putin rightfully does not approve that 44 of the grain goes to european countries. Reporter its not the sort of language you would have expected from somebody who is trying to bring the two sides together and not appear to be biased one way or the other. Putin for his part said, look, im ready to revive and get into discussions about the u. N. Grain deal, but only if i get what i want. By that he said, you know, we need to get these restrictions on our exports, as he describes it, on our agricultural product exports, we need to get them lifted. But at the same time of saying that, Efs Upping The Ante adding pressure, pushing through a separate deal, a workaround grain deal where he exports russias grain to turkey, and then turkey ships it which, again, puts erdogan in hardly an unbiased position. Ukraine has been saying all along dont allow putin to get away with this. Jim. Nic robertson, thank you very much. For more on all theis, let me g to general mark hertling. How concerned are you about what i think will be a big headline, this potential meeting between putin and kim jongun to discuss Weapons Negotiations . What do you think . Jim, you opened this whole thing by saying these are two of washingtons biggest rivals. Theyre also desperate leaders of the worlds two most pariah states. This will generate a lot of attention. It shows that mr. Putin is scrambling for help. Nics report on turkey is in the same category. When youre talking about leaders going by armored train to meet in vladivostok to discuss Vladimir Putin giving Artillery Weapons and potentially gain back Ballistic Missile capabilities, youre seeing two leaders only allied with one another right now and having more and more problems with executing their foreign policy. It will generate a lot of discussion. There are also indicators that russia and north korea want to do exercises in training events. That would be an interesting thing to watch. But across the board, these are two of americas most strongest foes. Its going to be problematic. Spider marks, how would russia use more weapons from north korea in its war against ukraine . What are your thoughts on all of this . Clearly, as mark described, as we saw with the previous reports, russia is in a desperate situation right now. This is a very tactical move. Theres nothing strategic about a longterm relationship with north korea unless, unless russia wants to have a are very provocative partner that will do some dirty work and will allow russia to reap the benefits of that if north korea is willing to do that, which they routinely are, but wont have any of the accountability as a result. Additional weapons from north korea to russia, not surprising at all. They share the same type of caliber weapons systems. So its an immediate plusup. This is not going the strategically alter the outcome of the fight in ukraine. What it really describes is that kim jongun is looking for a partner. Beijing has been distancing itself from pyongyang, appropriately i think. But moscow is now stepping in and trying to achieve some type of a relationship thats not dissimilar between putins relationship with xi in that xi really sees russia as a vast state. Putin would love to have that kind of relationship with north korea. General hertling, how effective are these weapons that russia is seeking to buy from north korea . Would they have a Significant Impact on the battled field . Does it smack desperation on the part of putin that hes going down this road . Its desperation, jim. These are large caliber artillery shells, not Precision Weapons, not the kind you can point and hit a target within a ten foot or ten meter circular area. Theyre just quantity. Quantity has a quality all of its own. Dont get me wrong. We have seen ukrainian authorities using Precision Weapons with great effect and knocking out a lot of Russian Artillery pieces. Its turning the tide in the counter firefight. I dont think personally from a Military Perspective this is going to have a great deal of significance, as spider just said, on the ukrainian battlefield. Spider marks, why do you think putin is turning to kim jongun right now . Is it, in part, some desperation . Its an attempt to achieve a global stage. Its a bit of drama on a very small stage, but at least its external. Look, hes been dealing he, putin, has been dealing with a whole host of internal challenges. And most recently hes reasserted himself in terms of a powerful position within russia. He enjoys domestic popularity. But anything over the border he does not. Hes an international pariah. Theres nothing hes doing right now that increases his position on the stage other than with other autocrats, just like mark described. Youve got these autocratic leaders. Theyre exchanging notes with each other. Without being facetious, theyre really brutal actors on a stage, and they continue to address issues in a very hardedged way. Theres nothing open about these discussions. All right, general hertling, spider marks, thanks to both of you for that. We appreciate it, as always. Appreciate your insights. Coming up, Burning Man Festival Goers are free to leave at last after days of being stuck in the muddy, rainsoaked desert. 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That sunshine you see is the savior, drying the mud just enough for tires to grip, not sink into sludge. It was impossible to function, impossible to move around. A lot of struggling people. What became very cold, very stormlike conditions, peoples tents and entire camps became pretty much destroyed. Reporter more than 70,000 people were basically trapped for days. Trapped in this makeshift desert city that pops up in nevada every year around labor day filed with campers and creators, funlovers and those with their freak flags burning. We planned on leaving right after the burn, which was saturday night. Then it started raining on us. Everybody took their shoes off, started dancing in the mud. Then the reality sunk in we couldnt leave. Reporter chris rock and other celebs decided to take the only uncomfortable exit available. His New York Knicks jacket on and we started walking. We walked about three hours in the mud. He was happy. I think Cindy Crawford walked with ut, austin butler, one of the highlights of the whole trip. Reporter many embracing the ethos of selfreliance that surrounds this festival. I was waiting for the looting, honestly. I thought that would have been great. Its really beautiful actually when you go to the camps. Everybody was helping each other out. Reporter burning man, raining man, suck it up, stick it out. I had my rv there. All my other camp mates have rvs or big rental trucks. Getting those out was basically impossible. Sure, you could have walked out. What am i going to do with all this stuff . Reporter all this chaos caused by just an inch of rain. Super slick. You walk around and you feet five pounds of mutt on your feet. Reporter why . Well, this is a desert. Nothing much grows. The soil isnt absorb want. Its miles of gray clay. Most years this is a dusty, not a muddy mess. Under an inch of rain, these still two or three months worth of rain in this arid land within just 24 hours. Tonight they will finally burn the man for those that remain and pray for no rain. The forecast is looking good. No rain in that forecast. If theres one positive, one Silver Lining that comes out of these dark clouds, festival goers tell us perhaps this Will Reenforce One of the the central ethos, perhaps, of this festival which they call radical selfreliance. The organizers tell people, when you come to this environment, it is a very dangerous environment. You need to bring everything you need to survive. So the message, do not show up with just a pair of hot pants and a tiara, you need radical selfreliance. You need to prepare to go to the desert. In other words, dont be a stick in the mud. Nick watt, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Up next, Members Of Congress are on the brink of a highstakes fight as they get ready to end their long summer break. What . 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