Russia is doing in terms of influence efforts in the United States trying to sow division that are already apparent in the us evidence that they tried to influence and maybe interfere in the elections. Terrific to have you here, kylie. Thank you so much for sharing this breaking news reporting. Weve got major new developments. Lets get right to them developing news for you this morning, donald trump just arrived at court, were watching that hallway for you to see if hes got anything to say today before critical testimony gets back underway . In historic Hush Money Trial this hour, the former publisher of the enquirer, david pecker, back on the stand under crossexamination as the defense tries to know formalized conversations, pecker told the jury about that involve trump, Stormy Daniels, and efforts to catch their stories and kill them because they were unflattering to donald trump cnns beringia and grasses live outside of court. As we wait to see if donald trump has anything to say. He has been speaking quite a bit before court brin were not the only ones listening to what hes saying. The judge and the prosecutors are definitely honing in on what hes saying because theres this issue of the gag order and whether or not he has violated it yet. Again what can you tell us where that is . Were expecting here anything today on the gag order . You know, we dont know we dont know when a judge is going to rule on those previous violations that the prosecution is alleging trump had. But we know it says here they are listening, right. Because at the very beginning of court yesterday, they brought up for more examples of what they say trump violated that gag order. One of them actually included an exchange that he had with our own Kristen Holmes outside of trump tower. I want you to take a listen to what he said. There a lot of david pecker testimony so far one last time just been very nice and hes been davids been very nice and nice. So you can see there he called david pecker who has been on the stand all this week. A nice guy the prosecution says that saying that is really a kind of signaling to a witness on the stand and that, you know, its possible that hell do that again with another person that takes the stand. So thats just one of the examples they brought up yesterday. There were three more and now the judge has set a new Gag Order Hearing in for next thursday to deal with these four new examples. So well see if we get any ruling about the ten prior ones today or does that get pushed back to next thursday when this do gag order is set, so were not sure, sarah, but certainly less than one court does get underway if the judge doesnt address that, we are going to get into crossexamination again, thats where court left off yesterday. The Defense Questioning david pecker with rapidfire questioning questions about this whole well catch and kill scheme sort of poking holes into the prosecutions. What they laid out for the last several days. Essentially, they were saying that this whole buying and bearings stories was nothing new, that they did this for celebrities all the time and it had nothing to do with the fact that trump was running for president in 2016. So well see where that picks up. When court gets underway. Sir. All right. Thank you, brendan, john, it strikes me that donald trump, for the first time said something nice about someone involved in the case against him, but hes still talked about a witness still spoke about a witness with us now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, Jennifer Rodgers and former federal prosecutor for the Southern District of new york, sara kris, jen, to the point that donald trump made about david pecker, that he was nice. Lets leave aside for a moment whether or not that violated the gag order. Lets talk about whether he was right, how nice has david pecker been for donald trump . And what is the risk that he couldnt be nice . For donald trump in the crossexamination . Yeah, its so interesting because when youre crossing, you have to decide how youre going to approach it, right . Are you going to attack aggressively this person tried to undercut their credibility or if they seem friendly to you, or at least not hostile to you. Are you going to take a more friendly tone with them . And so far thats what weve seen they think they can get more out of david but pecker by being calm and not aggressively attacking him. And i think that theyre right. He clearly still admires trump. Hes willing to give the defense what theyre asking for when it will be a little more fraud, well see if they start to try to dig at. Well, when you said you talked to trump about this and they tried to like poke holes in that and maybe you dont remember remember or maybe it wasnt exactly what you said. Well see if they go full on in those those are the Big Communications here. But so far they think they can get more out of them this way. And thats really what youre doing and crosses your, youre not trying to get the you cant do you need me on that wall moment. What youre trying to get our little tidbits, youre going to use in your Closing Argument to make your point any risk for pecker in violating his agreement with prosecutors who theoretically he has immunity, but theres really no likelihood that theyre going to charge arch him with this crime. I think he probably knows that. So while i think youll try to stick to the terms of his agreement, theres really not much risk for him. One of the thing that the Defense Attorneys started to do yesterday and cross and i imagined well pick it back up within just a few minutes here is maybe trying to question how well david pecker remember its specific moments how much does that land with a jury thereafter . Twoandahalf days of a pretty specific testimony from david pecker, pretty vivid in some ways, luria testimony. I mean, that could be pretty effective actually because it particularly if pecker now recounts his conversations again and they ship if the little bit, the language changes a little bit, that that could matter here in the defense team is going to point out that these are events that happened many years ago the witnesss memory is not incredibly clear and theres some ambiguity here. Theyll use that to sort of poke holes and brains reasonable doubt, give me a checklist of what the prosecution thinks it accomplished with pecker in their direct. So he is a good one witness for them in that hes not biased. It clearly still likes trumps, so thats good for the prosecution. The big thing though, is this election conspiracy. What david pecker gives them is that all of this catch and kill, all of trying to hush up these women was about the election. It wasnt about as embarrassment over his family, is about his election in that thats what prosecutors need to make this Misdemeanor Falsification of Business Records into a felon was almost like it was the refrain if this for a song, whatever they could the prosecution and david pecker tried to come back to the 0. 0. This was for the campaign, this was different. There was a shift before the campaign. Trump was worried about his family once the campaign started, it was only about the camp hey, so how does the Defense Handle that and cross so i mean, the real question here for the jury is why this happened, right . We know sort of the basic facts of this happen and i think the defense team is seating, those. The question is, why and because that makes it a crime or not. And so i think from out of the gate, the defense team from the Opening Statement through this cross, has sort of challenging the peoples version of why this happened it is interesting because were now several days into this testimony. It isnt were that the prosecution has delved into the exact crime here. When do you expect that theyre going to get to a moment where they say this is where donald trump broke the law. And in this case because it needs to be two laws that were prosecuting four here. So i think they wanted to start with a relatively safe witness, right . They wanted to start with a witness that didnt have a ton of impeachment material that was little bit harder to crossexamine to set the stage. I think this was probably a smart Witness For The Prosecution to start with, although the e. They in established this can bureaucracy the Broad Strokes of it, but they really are going to need to get to Michael Cohen to get into the dirt here of what happened. We havent falsified documents yet, as far as this uri is concerned, really have widget no, i think actually after pecker and before cohen will get some kind of boring witnesses who are going to take us through the records themselves, authenticate them, explain them, will probably get some of that stuff. We dont say boring on tv, we say highly specific typic in technical, i think is a way to describe that Jennifer Rodgers there. Thank you so much for being with us much more to discuss as this continues this morning we do have pictures from the courthouse right now. As we said testimony will resume very shortly. This is the doorway donald trump walks out of when he speaks before go again, we will see if he speaks. Well see if he speaks about the tropical. Interestingly enough, he has maybe moved away from speaking so much about this. Perhaps the gag order is looming as a threat. 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Were going to bring you if he has any comments, hes gonna be making his way into court, which is kinda become his routine. But theres also happens just as new cnn polling is offering up a fresh look at the real impact this trial is having and how americans feel about trump and about their vote only 13 of voters nationwide feel that donald trump is being treated the same as any other defendant. When you look inside that number, you see there there are most are divided over whether he is being treated more harshly or more leniently, than other criminal defendants. What happens if he is convicted of a crime . This is interesting among trumps supporters they take, this is among trumps supporters. Look at this result, this poll finds the vast majority would support trump regardless but 24 of Trump Supporters say it may cause them to reconsider their support of the former president. Lets talk much more about all of this joining me right now, a cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein, his new piece out in the atlantic is about the Supreme Courts impact on trumps future and the future of the presidency, quite frankly, and its called trump is getting what he wants lets start there. Ron, because after yesterdays Supreme Court arguments, you concluded that trump is getting what he wants and more how and why well, look in practical, your attorney in the near term, what hes getting is were kind of getting numb to this, but that at that hearing yesterday five of the republican appointed justices, really all of them except amy coney barrett, gave very clear signals that they are going to protect the republican president ial nominee from a trial before the november election on the charges that this poll and other polls show are the most serious is to the American People i mean, in practical terms, at almost any of the rulings that seemed possible out of that hearing are going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for there to be a trial on Whether Trump tried to subvert the last election before he faces voters. In the next election. But the implications for what happens if he is reelected, maybe even more profound. I mean, you saw that hearing how virtually unlimited is their view of president ial power they his lawyers argued that unless he was first impeached individually, which is impossible in this current partisan environment, he could sell Nuclear Secrets assassinate a political rival, or even stage a coup without facing criminal trials and the legal experts that i spoke with, uh, for this piece pointed out that when youre starting with someone who has that level of view of what he can do as president trying to draw a very fine lines between what can and cant be prosecuted after he leaves office is kind of a doomed effort and he is going to take almost any kind of immunity as a license to truly push at the boundaries and reed just a portion of because about that, you wrote this that those who went into the hearing wishing to preserve a preelection trial against trump emerge from the proceedings reduced to hoping that the court doesnt eviscerate the possibility of criminal consequences for any president who breaks the law. I mean, because youre gonna, youre, youre speaking to just that ron about what this means for a second trump term. Look, i mean, it was kind of an upside down world where afford the least four of the, of the republican appointed justices. There only concern was that a future president would face unfair prosecution from an overzealous successor or prosecutor they affirmatively refused to talk about, chose, swatted, swatted down efforts to talk about the actual facts that were dealing with now, which is the allegation that a president tried to subvert the last election and broke the law in the process two times you Brown Jackson really was the one who said, look, i mean, youre talking about a Chilling Effect on the presidency. If you allow for prosecution look at what were dealing with here, what kind of license and liberating effect on a president to break the law. Do you create if you say that there are g