At five eastern. An Encore Presentation of hbos Real Time With Bill Maher is the hbo original series. Realtime hi all right. I appreciate it okay all right. Thank you very much. All i know. I know its exciting. Its very well, its mothers day. Sunday isnt that yeah youre right thing. Pick up the phone and call your mom or if youre gen z, just go upstairs the kids, they love it yeah. Mothers day a little different in texas this year. Its called if you dont go through youll be in jail day and kristi noem, her kids our gatera everybody celebrates mothers they got or a lovely gift ever met schuster where her favorite Brand Hush Puppy broad less lets get to what you came here to hear about storm, Stormy Daniels. This is the week in the trump trial. We finally heard from Stormy Daniels trump posted the whole world is watching i hate to tell you, don not even your family is watching stormy had a lot to get offered. Just i mean, she spurious we heard all about her background. She grew up in louisiana. She started dancing at the strip clubs at 18 moved into adult films at 23. What in louisiana they called the career fasttrack easy. I luck but then we got to we had to hear about the actual sex with donald trump and she said, well, it was not exactly consensual, it was unwanted. But you did not resist what most women called married sex now, now of course the looming question is, will trump take the stand and we know for sure he will not because he said he would thats how we know for sure he will not. But come on. Top. Trump. Take this dandy. He put his hand on the bible will be sizzle like a fajitas heres the thing now because the details from stormy were so salacious. I mean, even the judge had to say to her, Honey Tmi Kids watching but now trumps team has in pushing for a mistrial oh, and by the way, a mistrial is also trumps dragged name mr. Trump has been cited ten times for Contempt Of Court . Because he cant keep his mouth shut and anybody else who ten times, they would put you in jail. And he i think he wants to go to jail because it would make him a martyr hes practically begging the judge to put him in jail. Theres a switch, lock me up i love this over on fox news jesse watters, have you seen this guy . Interesting guy keep finding him over there. He said, if trump does go to jail, hes going to work out a lot. Itll come out rip youre right. I could just stop with that but no. Do see water said hes going to come out, ripped with a gel bad oh gosh box election coverage, youre number one source for a gay fan fiction heres a. Development in the president ial race. I didnt see forthcoming Bobby Kennedy right revealed some medical news this week. He said hes fine to run, but full disclosure, a warm did eat his brain making i mean. Not . Not reason. Theres like 15 years ago, norm is dead. The worm is dead ladies and gentlemen, no worries about the worm i think this says everything about the president ial race. These 70 yearold man with a wormeaten brain is the Youth Candidate kristi noem now it says weve got to shoot him because he has wormed. All right weve got a great show. We have frank bruni and Douglas Murray are here first off, hes a contributing writer at the atlantic the author of the bestseller fast de shoot and producer of the documentary food inc. Two, which is available to stream. Now, eric schweitzer, eric big fan by the way. Thank you, loved that book how are you today . Im good. Oh, yeah. Well, i want to ask you about i wanted to have you here basically because we have a president ial election which seems to be a lot about eggs. Yeah. This seems to be what the whole thing is turning on people are very exhibit worms. Well i was going to ask you about that. Yeah. Well, lets go to that first because it is on my mind, not in my mind but i mean, the bird flu is now in the milk could how do you get a worm in your brain . Lets just go right there you know bobby on in im sorry that you couldnt talk to them about this when he was yeah. On your show . Maybe some, bad sushi, maybe torque, but it is food of all the food thats how you do that. But of all the food borne problems weve got the United States warm in the brain is not in the top 5,000, right . We have avian we have Avian Influenza being spread by cows. And scientists had no idea until a few weeks ago that this influenza could even be in cows at all. How do they get from the birds to the account . Well, thats a very good question. There are wild birds that overfly areas theres all this intermixed. Youre of viruses thats going on. And whats very concerning about it as right now, the federal government is not allowed to go into these mega dairies that have 10,000, cows and test them for Avian Influenza, the federal government cant go on to these mega dairies and test the workers, many of whom are undocumented and quite fearful of if they test positive, whats going to happen to them. You have big ag and the big Dairy Companies preventing the cdc from investigating you know, what could be a life threatening illness eventually two people and its a perfect example of how the Public Health is being threatened by private interests. Yeah, i mean, ive all the industries that own the government. I have to say pharmaceuticals very high up, but nobody higher than the food, the Food Companies spend more on line being the Defense Industry right . Yeah its i feel like The Big Picture story from your book, your movie, is that this system really works for nobody. Its not good for the land, right . Its certainly not good for the animals, right . Its not good for the workers who work in the fact, even in fast food and the farm workers. And its not good for the consumer its not good for the person who eats this food. Its good for a handful of enormous corporations, right . There are basically taken over our food supply in the last 40 years that sounds crazy. That sounds conspiratorial. But when you go into a supermarket and you see thousands of different products, theyre all being made by three or four Different Companies and they hide behind these different brands. I mean, i just found out from this book that i read recently called Barons By Austin for iraq great book that the biggest seller of coffee in the United States is a german company, not starbucks. But they sell it under all these different brands. So you think that theres choice but its really an illusion of choice and i feel like the problem at bottom is that food is too delicious thats why people dont care is that were seduced by the food the trojan horse is in our stomach, right so i mean, we have these, i mean, you mentioned it real for cigarettes are great too. By the way, i used to smoke i loved them but these Food Companies are carefully formulated formulating these Ultraprocessed Foods so that they taste really good. And you want to eat them again and again and again. Okay, thats the word. I just came across recently from reading you ultra ive heard process. Yeah. Ive never heard ultraprocessed. Thats something new or is it just a word we hadnt heard before . And how is it different than just project isnt new. So a process food would be Something Like canned corn they cook the corn, they add some salt and some water. Its in the can you open it up . You eat it. Thats just fine. And thats fine. Yeah. I mean, frozen vegetables, canned vegetables, as long as they dont have all kinds of additives. Thats healthy. I will try disagree vehemently. That vegetables have to be eaten fresh or its and corn is shifted. Know, but ideally, yes, but in terms of harming your health, its not im going to hurt you. Whats going to hurt you if you look at the label and there are all these chemical names that you would never have in your kitchen. Thats an Ultraprocessed Food and what theyre doing is theyre creating Flavor Additives at these factories mainly in new jersey. That day there are some wonderful things that are coming out of that State Waiver Additives may not be trust me, there are worse smells in the food factory yeah. They i can say that in your jersey can tell where you are on the d Jersey Turnpike by what its like. Anyway flavor Flavor Additives emulsifiers, all these like artificial sweetness that human beings have never consumed before. So were basically sickly guinea pigs for these chemical additives. And who knows what theyre doing to our body. But now, increasingly people are concerned, well, theyre giving us about health effect, are giving it cancer obesity well, maybe all kinds of neurological problems, lots of problems, but i think i think theres a direct link between that the prevalence of cancer and the, we eat and the problem is when you eat these foods, i think is that youre not getting nutrients. Youre getting calories. So your body is still wants more food because it wants nutrients. Once the good stuff, yeah. So you keep eating, you get fat and heres where i was. Epic comes in, which i know is the wonder drug. And we all love it. I dont, i dont see it that way. Its an enabler its an enabler to keep eating food. Its this miracle where you can keep, or maybe you dont eat as much, but you dont have to improve the diet. So i dont think its going to make us healthier in the future. It might make you thinner i dont think youre still not getting the nutrients. They should you know . We keep on creating problems with technology. And then looking for a new technology to solve them. So this Ultraprocessed Food is absolutely linked to obesity so people become obese and then the pharmaceutical Companies Come up with a drug to help with obesity. Now, i am not an expert on ozempic but i think that for people who are severely obese already that whats the choice gastric bands, surgery, or Terrible Health problems, or taking this drug. We dont know what the longterm implications of being on this drug is going to be. But the longterm implications of being obese or really bad, the people who probably shouldnt be injecting this drug are people who are maybe a little too vain. And are probably already slender and want to be even more slender. But for people who are really unhealthy because of their weight it may. But what we need to do is prevent children from becoming obese and that means in schools we need to be serving real foods, not these Ultraprocessed Foods right now. In the american diet, the typical american child is getting 60 to 70 of their calories from Ultraprocessed Food. And thats just a recipe for disaster. It also theres no variety the, our diet needs variety when we were nomadic, yeah, we had a Great Variety this a great book, sapiens. He makes a great point that once we settled down in factory, well, not factory farmed it, farm to rigidly and then factory farm wed like three things. Wed cows pigs, and chickens, and very are sucking sacred chickens, right . And check, i mean, you before chickens you get them at breakfast, you got dinner, you get it. I mean thats not good for the body. Its not good for the body. And as the coproducer of this film and my friend Michael Pollan put it we should be eating real food, not so much mainly plants. And the latest science is that you should be having 30 different types of plant in one week because its so much better to get your vitamins from real foods than to get them from supplements or additives, et cetera, et cetera i remember the very beginning of the covid, epidemic four years ago the very first editorial i did here, well, i dont think it was here. It was in my backyard right. Because we were home. Yeah. But it was all about factory farming. It was about luck because weve thought at the time it came from the Wu Han Wet Barkat and maybe it did you dont know any the game from the lab and the market. Its shouldnt be a button via political issue. Yeah. Typic issue. We dont know. But certainly that didnt help my point was, as long as you keep torturing animals, we are going to be the ones to suffer, even if you dont have compassion for an animal really right . Okay. So whats the future here . Because i worried that so next one is coming or its worse i mean, one may be right now percolating in texas where this Avian Influenza was discovered in cows accidentally by a veterinarian and you should look up the Secretary Of Agriculture in texas whos this far right wing, conservative. I dont mind that is conserved Conspiracy Theorist who is basically blocking and trying to block the cdc from investigating this epidemic. Factory farms or a crime against nature and im not a vegan. Im not a vegetarian. These are sentient creatures that were treating like industrial commodities and Mother Nature is going to get back at us for us thank you we needed to hear that message has always spotlights 12th time in years changing the world intimate look at how these Champion Snake The World A Better Place champions for change all next week on cnn sponsored by Charles Schwab has nothing to do. The Hair Thinning thank god, how to help your hand neutrophil. Com okay. Everyone. 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This is a damning report for the president why do you think hes doing this . And can he be talked out . When republicans be willing to support this aid package, we need a functioning legislative branch. Are you willing to let people in the west bank vote . Why do you think so many republicans have downplayed this . Do you think hes guilty . The lead with jake tapper weeklies it for cnn all right. Lets get our panel hi guys how are you all right. He is a columnist for the New York Post and bestselling author of the book, the war on the west, douglas marys back with us hes a. Contributing writer at . The New York Times and author of the bestseller the age of grievance, frank bruni are returning champion okay so lets start off talking about israel and gaza because we finally have someone here on the show who was there. Thats not something you find a lot in the media these days. Its very hard to get into gaza, very hard to know whats going on there so i just want to ask you, were probably get to the politics of it all because theres a lot of that this week what does it look like . There are people starving. And if they are, whose fault is that ive been in israel and gaza for the last six months since the war began i cant speak to whether anyone is starving. I mean, its its its its a bad situation in gaza because im has started a war and im israeli stuck in his very, very strange position of having to supply food to the area controlled by its enemy. And are they yes, they are i mean, food trucks going through all the time, but of course the situation is terrible because the situation could end at any point if hamas did what theyve been asked to do repeatedly for six months, which is to give back the hostages now my view is that theres, ive seen the conflict up and i still believe that i mean, first of all, you cant just put out 80 of a fire. You have to put out the whole thing you cant destroy 80 of hamas. You not get