Free the cargo ship that collapsed ball her yeah, im here in washington alive. Look at new york city on this Tuesday Morning where that push my trials had to get back underway just a few hours from now. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt its wonderful to have you with us. This is the de, we think that Donald Trumps legal team has been preparing for the day they could get to crossexamine Michael Cohen and try to convince a jury that he simply cannot be believed trumps former lawyer and fixer returns to the stand this morning after testifying on monday about payments that were made to kill potential really damaging stories about trump. All he says at the direction of his former boss. In the final critical days before the 2016 election, his testimony designed to show just how close he was to trump involved in talks about the hush money at every turn the juror has got to hear this conversation between cohen and trump about payments made to Playboy Playmate playmate karen mcdougal. It was a conversation that cohen secretly recorded correct. So im im all over that and i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be listened what we have to pay yourself getting old. I got no chance. Cohen appeared, composed throughout his testimony monday in one key exchange with the prosecution, he talked about buying Stormy Daniels story and how doing so was all about trumps bid to win the white house. Cohen testifying this quote so during the negotiation to purchase and acquire the life rights, what he had said to me is what i want you to do is just push it out as long as you can just get past the election. Because if i win it has no relevance. I will be president. If i lose i dont even care and then there was this particularly jaw dropping moment, cohen telling the court that after the release of the Access Hollywood tape, trump didnt seem to care if millennia left him telling the jury that trump told him this quote dont worry, how long do you think ill be on the market for not long trump did not seem to like any of this at all. He spoke to the media afterward and he was angrier than we probably ever seen him during this trial. We paid a lawyer a Legal Expense. We believe expense is a legal experts. Its marked out in the book. Whoa Legal Expense is perfectly marked down perfectly marked down for stuff like that from trump before are at our panels here, former federal prosecutor Elliot Williams, molly balls, senior Political Correspondent at the Wall Street Journal Conservative columnist Scott Jennings and sarah matthews, former Deputy White House press secretary under president trump. Welcome. All well, yesterday was a fun one today, promises to be another one. I elliott what did you make, especially if this the question of what he thought about and how whether or not he cared about melania is actually a really central one to the prosecution, right . Because prosecution has to establish that there was a political motive perhaps beyond or or an addition to the personal one. Now, any reasonable person would want to such information of Extramarital Affairs wave from their spouse. But the question is, did this particular person also intend to keep this material away from voters and what you saw yesterday was so far the most direct evidence of that in the form of those conversations. And that recorded conversation between cohen and trump. Now, to be clear, it was the prosecution since evidence it was friendly questioning backandforth. He has not been crossexamined about it yet. Its purely his memory of a conversation and you are certainly not going to hear testimony from the other person who was there because donald trump will not quite frankly, should not testify. So right now its perfectly good evidence, but it can have poke holes poked in it. And as he said, with crossexaminations starting, i think thats when youll see it Scott Jennings this is a guy that hes the Presumptive Republican nominee for president its its reminding everyone kind of what we went through as a country when he was president of the United States and im just kinda currently, how do you feel about defending him with these allegations out there . Well, theres nothing new has happened here. I think what youre seeing, such a muted reaction from people is because its already priced in, its baked into his candidacy its baked into who he is, nothing that we know all of this. And i dont have to no republican really has to defend anyones personal behavior to make this standing up behind him. Well, but theyre not necessarily defending his personal behavior, but they would say things like this case, youd never been brought. This is a terrible court. This prosecutor is par as nick, whatever, and they would also say this i dont care about sex paperwork, but i do care about that. The president has driven as to an inflationary crisis and is going wobbly on our ally, israel. Youre going to see republicans all over the country, make that argument and i think whether he is convicted, whether the jury is on whether hes acquitted. I think this will move the needle for virtually no one you dont think if hes convicted, its not going to make a difference at all. I mean, there was a cnn poll that showed that 24 of trump backers said that if there is a conviction that they would reconsider their support, i will admit that doesnt mean that they are going to change their support, but they would reconsider. And i mean, on an election thats going to be on the margins and i think you would be worried get about every vote if you are someone who im trying to envision the voter who would go to the polls to, you know, i was going to vote for donald trump, but then i found out he got the paperwork wrong because he had sex with somebody and i dont know who that person is. I dont think that paperwork wrong thing is. I mean sarah thats what i mean. He would be convicted for. The perception is not going to be paperwork for the president being developed for them if its not a paperwork, i understand that you are technically correct. I just anyone consumes this. Its like probably this case is no one can explain what hes actually been convicted for. It was obvious that the case was brought so they could put people on the stand stand to try to they were paying, so they were paying her to keep quiet so that voters, particularly women, wouldnt think badly trump before the election, october, october of 2016, no one no one knew that donald trump had had sex with lots of women out there, some of them were not as well possibly. Lets say cohen testified if i saw this yesterday, right. He says of trump. Trump said this to me. This is a disaster. This is in the wake of the hollywood tape. This is a disaster, a total disaster. Women are going to hate me because this is really a disaster. Women will hate me and guys may think its cool, but its going to be a disaster for the campaign. And sarah, the thing thats him was his wife, Melania Trump. He or she was talking to Anderson Cooper he described it as, as locker room talk to you. I mean, you sort of alluded to that as well. Is that what it is two, you just locker room talk . Yeah. I i kind of two teenage boys actually, they should behave better, right it was 59 correct and sometimes i said i have two boys at home. I have my young son and i have my husband so but i know how some men talk and thats how i saw it, yes. And so that in october right before the election is what gives trump a lifeline with women. Sarah matthews so cohen testifies to this yesterday he was asked by the prosecutor, did you bring up at the time the topic of his wife melania, in one of those conversations with mr. Trump. And again, were talking about the Access Hollywood period as all the Stormy Daniels stuff is going down. Cohen says, i did. What, if anything, did he say to you about that . The prosecutor asks cohen, dont worry. He goes he goes how long do you think i will be on the market for it . Not long. Hoffinger. What did you understand that to mean . Cohen, he was not thinking about millennia. This was all about the campaign. Sarah, you have seen how this man interacts and private talks about his wife and women who is telling the truth here about whats really going on yeah. I mean, i think Stormy Daniels testimony also backed up what Michael Cohen is saying. She testified to the donald trump told her that him and melania didnt sleep in the same bed. And then now you have cohen. This saying it flies in the face of what trumps defenses that he was solely concerned with, the opinion of his wife and what i will say too, is that i think the biggest piece of evidence is that Melania Trump isnt here shes not going to be probably attending the trial. And i think that the jury is going to take notice of that. Now, look, she hasnt even supported him on the campaign trail. So i definitely would not really expect her to show up and be in the courtroom, especially when all of these kinds of salacious details are coming out. But i do think that the jury is going to take notice of that and i dont think that bears well for him then different than the stand by your man era of politics, molly, i guess well, thats the reason that that phrase exists, right . Because it is a powerful thing when a woman stands by her man despite these kinds of allegations, look, i think there on the one hand, i think that scotts right that a lot of people do regard this its old news, right . And we see you made it is literally old. It is. Let her stories really happened a long time ago. Trial has all those New York Times battleground polls yesterday, only 29 of voters. So that say that theyre closely following this trial. I think a lot of people have tuned it out for that reason saying, why are we hearing about this again . On the other hand, and you trump hasnt won an election since this came out and for a lot of the sort of cross pressured voters in this election, a lot of them, i think are your classic my demographic, the suburban women right this year independent centrist, maybe conservativeleaning suburban women who have always felt a little queasy about supporting trump. And this brings that links a lot of that backup reminds them of a lot of what they didnt like about those. Thats the main voting group that has moved toward the democrats in this day and age and cause this realignment thats the basis of their new coalitions. So if that goes wobbly for trump, it could be a problem all right. We have a lot more to talk about this morning coming up next. Gold bars, a luxury car in exchange for favors these are of course, some of the wild allegations as Jury Selection for senator bob menendez is Corruption Trial continues today. 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Download self to start today this before in the Step Fairclough Wipers on the line right now two now, the distractions goodness thats a serious. Still this guy and i welcome back. The trunk file, not the only trial that we are covering today as Jury Selection is going to continue today in the trial against new jersey senator bob menendez, democrat he is accused of taking bribes and acting as an agent for a foreign government. It is his Second Bribery and Corruption Trial in just seven years. But youve probably seen the things that make this one unique. You are seeing them again on your screen. These are the things that prosecutors say menendez received gold bars, cash, a luxury car, among other things, in exchange for favors. Menendez has pledged not guilty and said this to cnns Manu Raju On Capitol Hill last week thoughts about the trial as we head into next week, im looking forward to proving my innocence okay Elliot Williams you get to do a trials across the spectrum. Morning this how tight . Is this case against menendez . Because obviously the evidence is very i mean, the pictures of the evidence, the jacket thats got his name on it, and theres cat and envelopes of cash in the pockets. Its all very sort of made for television but what do they have on them for real . But let me give you a quick lesson on circumstantial evidence to establish that someone received a payment in gold for doing something unlawful. You can have a letter from the person or a confession from the person that says i received gold to do something illegal or you can search their computer and have the words, how much does a kilogram of gold bring me in money, right . And thats sort of what this case is. Theres plenty of compelling evidence showing some rather disgraceful conduct by Alleging Rafah disgraceful conduct by a us senator. And based on what weve seen here in this gets back when we were talking about in the last block, its from the prosecution. It hasnt been challenged yet, but whats on the page is certainly damning against the senator and thats why i think i believe half his colleagues in the Democratic Party in the senate have called for him to resign, and the other ones run away when the question is asked because of how problematic the charges are. Yeah. Well, and we can play one person who has called for him to resign it. Look, i think its also worth noting that this guy is the former chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee, which makes taking bribes from foreign entities like that much more potentially problematic. But here was john fetterman. We should note im mostly grew up in pennsylvania theres a little bit of a rivalry between pennsylvania and new jersey, but either way, fetterman does not mince words when he talks about this watch did anyone wish midend is good luck for next week for that sleeves ball thats ball, i mean, Scott Jennings like the reality is this is something that does and there are a number of his democratic colleagues that have not called on him to step down this is something that does impact his ability to do his job as a senator . Yeah, it was a real felony. We can talk about i mean, this this is massively consequential very few people in the country are talking about it. And the political aspect that so Many Democrats refuse to deal with this corruption in their own party, by the way, i just have to say about fetterman, i was really hard on him during the campaign. Id now like, funny here means do not like chairman of republicans for fetterman, this guy is showing a