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Now im pete medina, Reagan National airport this morning, a defining moment in donald about a critical phone call how much will it impact the jury . Deadly storms in texas for People Killed and several states in the south now facing lifethreatening flooding and Hurricane Force winds and Supreme Court Justice Samuel alito reportedly flew an upsidedown american flag. Representing the stop the steal movement at his home. After the january 6 insurrection right, 6 00 a. M. Here in washington alive. Look at the white house on this friday morning. It has been all week. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us. Donald trump had a pretty good day in court. The former president s sat back and watched his former Fixer Struggle on the stand for several flowers on thursday, Michael Cohen facing an intense crossexamination about his past lives and a more recent possible inconsistency. Trump lawyer todd blanche zeroing in on testimony, cohen gave just three days ago in this trial, and its centered on an alleged Phone Call Cohen had with trump. Here is the trans scrapped todd blanche trumps lawyer says, on tuesday, when you are under oath and testifying you were certain it was accurate, you had a phone call to President Trump, but now you are saying you are not certain it was accurate cohen responded based upon the records that i was able to review, i believe i also spoke to President Trump and told him everything regarding the Stormy Daniels matter was being worked on. And its going to be resolved blanche we are not asking for your belief. This jury doesnt want to hear what you think happened trump had nothing but praise for his legal team sounding hopeful after court i think theres a very interesting day fascinating and its yeos scam herself thing is all right, uh, panels here, retired new york Supreme Court, state Supreme Court judge diane qizan, david from staff writer for the atlantic republican strategist, sara long. Well and meghan hayes, former Special Assistant to President Biden. Judge, id like to start with you about the significance of this moment. How significant do you think it was that this inconsistency was revealed . Why do you think it happened and how are the prosecutor is going to deal with it . Good morning. Well, any inconsistency in a significant part of a witnesss story is always significant because it leaves the jury with an ability to find that there is perhaps a reasonable doubt here that mr. Trump has committed the crimes which is charged however the prosecutor, after clutching his or her heart, can certainly work to ameliorate this by showing that there were many phones halls at this particular time, that this was a conversation that could have happened in the midst of that same phone call and certainly can point to all of the corroborating evidence. It may have to support other aspects of the testimony of mr. Cohen do you think the prosecutors made a mistake and not raising this initially if these Text Messages existed well, if they knew about them yes. I cant imagine there were not a number of the Text Messages. I can understand why they wouldnt have known about them but again, im not privy to all of their evidence. So if they knew about them and didnt raise them, yes, it was probably a mistake not to take the sting out of that and again, its hard for me to fathom that they didnt know all right. David, from what is your sort of big picture view on Michael Cohen and how, how this is all playing out. The Trump Defense is that everyone in the Trump Organization was a criminal and a liar and a crook, except for the boss who was not. That seems like kind of a hard case to argue. But heres the thing i really worry about. But as as you watch the cut and thrust of daybyday, donald trump is both a squalid Tabloid Sleaze Ball and a dangerous constitutional criminal. And the mechanics of this trial drag us into squalid tabloid sleeves, ball world. And if he went, i think the jury retires to make its deliberation the question theyre gonna faces, i can say, obviously trump is a liar and Michael Cohen is basically telling the truth. Obviously the records were tampered with. Does anybody care . Is this just a payoff . And the mechanic that resulted in a mistrial for john edward, which is of course he did it. Were just not going to send him to prison for it is it seems constitutionally unimportant. It seems like a tragedy in the mans Personal Life leave it alone. The trial was punishment enough. Thats the thats the mechanism that i worry that as we ponder these lines by lines were missing the big task. It seems to me that the jury faces is deciding whether these squalid Tabloid Sleaze Ball antics amount to anything that the public should care about. You and sarah long been dying to get you away and on that very question, yeah. I mean, the public is honestly confused. Weve been asking voters and focus groups for the last couple of weeks, you know, if theyre following the trial and one of the most interesting answers i got was from a to time trump voter, who has been trying to follow the trial. If she says well, i turn on fox, the five on fox, and they say this is going to get thrown out, but theres nothing there. And then i turn on abc and they say trumps going to prison. And i feel like im watching because, because they cant watch whats happening in the courtroom is being filtered through the media. And so i think that the opinions about whats happening are so all over the place at the voters cant get a grip on it. And one of the things that the core the cases do is they directly people to look backward about trump and focus on things that people have more or less processed as opposed to looking forward about trump and who hes going to be potentially be as a second term president and as a constitutional threat and very dangerous. And so instead of talking about that, we are talking about these tawdry details and the public is baked in the trump is tawdry and asleep ball. And so im not sure its introducing new facts and so yeah, i havent they are just not able to follow the backandforth daytoday on this clearly, yeah. I gotta be honest. I mean, im doing it in real time. Im literally listening and watching from our reporters in the courtroom. And it is tough to do it you are paying super close attention to every single tiny little detail. Is this how the Biden Campaign team is looking at it too . I mean, i think that theyre trying to focus on the president and his campaign and what hes doing. I think he has enough going on as we all can see, i do think though to your point, like we are, this is just noise. Were just focusing on this trial, which is very important. Its not im not saying its not important, super important the trump family, but theyve been helping us Make A Decision if hes to be president or not. This isnt looking at his agenda. Were not getting anything to have a contrast with what, what President Biden is out doing. So its like youre comparing something he did in the past is something were trying to move forward and its just its not fair to the American Public judge. Before i let you go how do you think the prosecutors should handle the redirect for cohen around this i think they should i think they should continue to focus on everything he has said that has other corroboration and they have plenty of it. Theyve got the weisselberg note. Theyve got the checks theyve got the statements of mr. Cohen that are already corroborated by david pecker and thats what they should be focusing on. And remember you know, youre all talking about how the public is getting in the weeds, you know, or shouldnt. It and cant focus on where this leads us. In november, weve got to be careful at a trial two, theres a lot of weeds you can get stuck in and what you want to be sure youre doing is present. This is showing the jury that when you put all the pieces of the puzzle together if youre the prosecutor that they spell conviction, whether the jury will believe that or recent or whether that will be the result remains to be seen all right. Judge. Case all for us. 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Com, the Stanley Cup Playoffs presented by geico or run ten again, sixth this is going to be fine, isnt it answers bruins stars avalanche, governors begins to 96, 30 on scene t welcome back. An upsidedown american flag. It used to mean sos, but its become a symbol of the stop, the steal movement. And it was seen hanging outside the home of Supreme Court Justice Samuel alito. You can see it in these pictures obtained by the New York Times just days after the january 6 insurrection, the New York Times reported this overnight under the byline of jodi kantor, who described how it evolved nabers word also filtered back to the Supreme Court. And all theyre seeing is this upsidedown flag, which at the time was one of the symbols of the stop the steal campaign. The first thing people felt was really just very great surprise. And this wasnt up there for just ten minutes. What neighbor say is that it was there for a few days so Justice Alito responded to the report in an email to the New York Times claiming had quote, no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag. He was briefly placed by mrs. Alito in response to a neighbors use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs this new reporting by the times possibly youre going to result in calls for alito to recuse himself from highprofile pending cases david from the blame, the wife excuse is everywhere to these days, but this is been im not sure what a better excuse would be. I have a real Processing Difficulty that makes me mr. Up for down. It was the 2020s. They were a crazy time. But heres a series matter. There is no wade reviewed the behaviors of Supreme Court justices and one of the things weve learned, i hope from the scandals and allegations of azure is some the court cant be subject to congress. It cant be something to the executive, but it needs to find some way to convene its own disciplinary body that actually can enforce rules on judges and give them some advice and advanced thats where you can say, im thinking of flying the flag of a protest movement. Is this, okay. I mean, there are things that presumably you cant fly a pumpkin flag and halloween that would be okay. Is this okay . There . To be some way to do that . But its going to raise a lot of doubts about the legitimacy on the court with alito with thomas, especially if the Court Decision in the trump cases is not unanimous may not be yeah. I mean, it is this is the second justice, right . Weve talked a lot about Clarence Thomas and his wife, who was we know from records involved in some of these efforts in the wake of the 2020 election . I it does. I think sarah raise these significant questions that david alludes to, and how can americans i mean, there are about to decide spring course. Ive got to decide whether or not donald trump is immune from prosecution from what happened on january 6. Yeah i want to ask a different question which is why are multiple Supreme Court justices wives showing direct sympathy and support for insurrectionists like ask yourself for a moment, like, how crazy this is that the people who are going to be in charge of deciding things about donald trump. And the next election i mean, the spouse, whether or not its alitos wife. We dont know, but people who are in marriages are quite close. They know what the other is doing. The idea that ginni thomas or Justice Alitos wife are acting entirely on their own, like at the barest of minimums, it shows the worst Judgment Qizan dispute over guard signs with neighbors. That was are and these people are in the most Important Role and the least accountable role in our system of checks and balances. And now you have two of them. Where there are direct signals, direct sympathies with the insurrectionist that is outrageous, that is an in saving. And it feels like we are actually under reacting. Oftentimes to these moments and part of the reason we under react, i think its because theres what do we do about it . No. Yeah. I mean, it does seem like in the statement hes, blaming her, but hes also kinda defending her, saying, well, she did this because this yard sign was really frustrating well, so its a defense that actually so yeah. I mean, yards, a neighbors yard sayyed might be irritating, but fortunately, you have a judicial temperament, right . And you can overlook the little bumps and glitches as of life and not lose your cool over irrelevant tiny things so no, actually, i dont have a judicial temperament. Ive got a hair trigger temper well, maybe this maybe you should go into a different line of work like Prize Fighting or he swartz and wrestling commentary. But if youre going to be a judge, an a justice of the united states, you need to have some ability to keep your cools, be d