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Insisting that he had nothing to do with it, telling the New York Times quote, it was briefly placed by mrs. Alito in response to a neighbors use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs mrs. Alito blaming his wife, while the blame mrs. Alito, excuse is not flying with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, dick durbin saying in a statement, he says, alito should recuse himself from any cases related to the 2020 election. Obviously that means the Immunity Case and the jack smith this case, Durbin Rights in a statement, flying an upsidedown american flag, a symbol of the socalled stop the steal movement. Clearly creates the appearance of bias now, just to state the very obvious here for me, for everybody watching a Supreme Court justice should know better than to have such a blatant political display in his front yard. Its common sense but if there were any question about it, the court does have an internal rule book that he could have consulted. It reads employees may not engage in partisan political activity. For example, publicly support or oppose whos a partisan Political Organization or candidate this includes displaying signs or bumper stickers or stating positions on social media. Pretty obvious stuff but important to note in the context of the fact that public trust and the Supreme Court is near record low according to a gallup poll and the Supreme Court, as i speak, as i said, they are as we speak making crucial decisions. They are considering outcomes that could determine the next election remember one of the two cases they are deciding is the Immunity Case. Thats trumps defense that he has absolute immunity from criminal charges in relation to anything he did while in office. If the Supreme Court grants trump that immunity. Jack smiths case is done and over it is gone and never see the light of day. And the other issue before the Supreme Court involves the justice departments ability to charge participants in the january 6 riot could affect hundreds of convictions now of course its not just alito on the court who is letting his wife take the heat Justice Clarence thomas has been silent about his wifes attendance at trumps january 6 rally and her efforts to try it overturn the election, including Text Messages that she sent to mark meadows, trumps chief of staff. One said, help this great president stand firm mark, you are the leader with him who is standing for americas constitutional governments at the precipice. The majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history again, thats clarence thomas, his wife, ginni. The bottom line is two of the nine justices on the american Supreme Court have spouses who have made very clear unambiguous political statements and actions and words. And those justices are sitting on the bench. And as we speak weighing in on cases that will determine the president ial election. And trumps fate. Jessica schneider is out front live outside the Supreme Court and jessica this is really an incredible moment, and this is a court that find itself embroiled filled deeper and deeper and controversy yeah. I mean, you got it, aaron, there are multiple ethics questions facing this court. All the public Approval Rating is just plummeting. You heard from democratic senator dick durbin calling on Justice Alito to recuse himself from any 2020 related case. But all signs right now or that Justice Alito nor Justice Thomas have any plans on accusing all while theres this mountain growing questions and criticism have you enjoyed your husband bag on the courts so far well, its been quite an adventure as you can well imagine, marthaann alito has largely stayed out of the spotlight since her husband joined the Supreme Court nearly two decades ago, and his farright views came under attack during a grueling Confirmation Process that loved her emotional senator Lindsey Graham jumping to his defense, Guilt By Association is gone. Dr. Goodman and women away from wanting to sit where youre sitting. But now her husband is putting her squarely in the spotlight because of this picture published by the New York Times showing an upside down flag that became a symbol of the stop the steal movement after the 2020 election, flying outside of the alitos home in the days surrounding joe bidens president ial inauguration, Justice Alito has laid the blame on his wife in this statement to the New York Times, i had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag. It was briefly placed by mrs. Alito in response to a neighbors use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs. I have met Justice Alito, decent person. I think this is just beyond the pale at this point, you can have people doing this. I have a wife who has very strong opinions about things. I took some real shots when i was on the federal bench. But you keep that in the house, martha and its just the latest Supreme Court spouse at the center of controversy. Ginni thomas exchanged texts with trumps then chief of staff, mark meadows, pushing him to challenge the 2020 Election Results weve got petitions pending before the Supreme Court, and she communicated with john eastman, the architect of the fake electors scheme, and the man who my shirt, mike pence to refuse to certify the results. Thomas has so far not recused and current cases being decided by the court. The issue here is not that a justices spouse cant do things the issue here is that a justice is responsible to the high calling of the rule of law. Just its this thomas and Justice Alito, reliable conservatives on the court have also indicated they could be leaning toward trump and hundreds of Capitol Rioters and cases. This term, there have been many violent protests that have interfered with proceedings as a government applied this provision two other protests in the past, the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent. Will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes . The functioning of our country is a democracy now it should be noted that Justice Thomas did recuse him himself from a case involving john eastman. Now when it comes to that Immunity Decision involving the former president trump, the decision from the court really could come at any de now, and aaron, that decision well directly impact whether and when the trial the criminal trial against donald trump will move forward here in washington. And like i said, so far, no signs. Justice thomas or Justice Alito will recuse aaron, jessica, thank you very much. And now, laurence tribe, noted legal scholar and professor of Constitutional Law at harvard, joins us and professor a barely appreciate your time. Do you think that Justice Alito should recuse himself from all cases related to trump and to the election at this point i do i dont think theres any question about it. Its in many ways more serious than what we have seen with Justice Thomas. At least Justice Thomas could say that my wife, ginni, has her own separate career. We dont talk about the cases you may believe that or you may not but thats a very different from whats going on with Justice Alito hes not saying my wife has her own separate career. Hes throwing her under the bus and blaming her for what is on his house, his flagpole. Its his flag malfunction. Its his upside flag and everyone knows that the upsidedown flag, which the United States code says should be flown that way. Only in cases of absolute emergency as a kind of sos was in this case, the symbol of the claim thats the election was stolen from donald trump. It was the banner of the insurrectionists and im reminded of something that the late Justice Scalia said in a opinion he wrote in 1987 he said, you cannot expect to ride with the cups if you cheer for the rubbers. This case, Justice Alito expects to preside over a decision about whether there wasnt direction and who was responsible for it and whether donald trump, who has been charged with involvement in trying to obstruct the operations of government and the transfer of power is immune number of cases before the court. Hes obviously not qualified to, sit in this case so the Fox News Anchor that Shannon Bream spoke to Justice Alito after the photo was published. And professor tribe, she wrote on social media bit more detail. She said he told me a neighbor on their street had an f trump sign that was when fifth with it. Im sorry. Was within 50 feet of where children await the school bus since january of 2021, mrs. Alito brought this up with a neighbor following that exchange, mrs. Alito was distraught and hung the flag upside down for a short time. Again, as you point out, no one who would flag the fly, the flag this way at that time would anybody who would do that knew exactly what they were doing but this is like even more detail that he is providing to fox news. What do you make of this excuse . Well i think what we need to hear from is not mrs. Alito, but Justice Alito under oath before the Senate Judiciary committee. It should consider ducting an enforceable Code Of Ethics right now, 28 us code section 4505 says that any federal judge or justice must not may but must recuse him or herself in any case where either that justice or the justices spouse has any skin in the game theres no distance here between mr. And mrs. Alito. Its clear that whatever offensive sign was involved that dispute between neighbors trivializes whats involved here, and its certainly didnt affect the alito kids to have the neighbor put an fu sign, right . I didnt state the obvious there not that someone couldnt be upset for other children, but their children were not in that in that age group. But again, as you point out, its the response and the choice of what they did is very substantive insignificant. Its not just something you would do if you didnt if you didnt believe in it. Thats the very clear implication here theyre not protecting their cheers by flying that flag upside down. What theyre doing is expressing solidarity with one side of a very serious ongoing dispute about which the accountability of the former president is very much at stake. Thats not neutrality, thats not objectivity. Its tipping your hand and Justice Alito tip his hand during the argument, more than once and obviously, just to state the obvious, hear the Immunity Claim could be decided any day. There was some thought we might even have heard that this week and alito is sitting in the in in that he is making that decision now and he may be responsible for delaying it. After all, the protocol within the court is the different justices dissenting and alito is probably writing a dissent from a rejection of the extreme claim of absolute immunity that didnt seem to gain Practice Section with the court for justice is descending. You wait till the descent is done before announcing the case. By delaying this Immunity Decision, so long that a trial camp occur before the election the effect may be to give de facto immunity to the former president , who if he wins the election, will pick an Attorney General who will dismiss the case so ultimate our ability is very much on the line. All right. Crucial points. So professor tribe, great to see you and thank you so much thank you, our next mtg versus aoc are your mailings her words down . Oh oh, girl, baby, girl. 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Marjorie Taylor Greene doubling down after a fight broke out in front of cameras in a Committee Hearing mtg just moments ago saying, quote, aoc isnt intelligent Jasmine Crockett has fake eyelashes. These arent attacks on personalities. These are just facts. House Oversight Committee devolving into a circus late last night. Watch for yourself id like to know if any of the democrats on this committee are employing judge merchans daughter please tell me what that has to do with Merrick Garland is she a porn star . Oh goldman. Thats right. Hes advising. Okay, hes advised what do you do . You know what were here for . You . Were here do you know what youre here for . Well, you dont want to talk about i think your fake eyelashes are messing up order mr. Chairman of your committee order. Well, i do have a Point Of Order and i would like to move to take down ms greenes words that is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you another person are your feelings hurt . Words down . Oh, oh, girl, baby, girl. Oh, really dont even play baby girl. I dont think youre going to move and were going to take your words down recommend motion so okay. That ms green agrees to strike her words. I believe share. Hold on. Then after mr. Perry shall be recognized and apologized when they reserve the right to play. Im not apologizing hello, scott, come on, guys why dont you debate me . Mr. Chairman the minority cells ever wrecking, youre not yeah, youre not aboard. Dont have enough intelligence. Chair recognizes mr. Perry. Okay. Move to strike through ladies words again to requests to strike. Thats two requests to show they cannot take another motion to strike her words again members and heres the correct the correct parody. Ms green, do you ask you to analysts . Do you agree to unanimous consent to strack your work . I repeat again for the second time. Yes. My words, but im not apologizing out. Objection, mr. Chair, Point Of Order its me its crockett. Im just curious. Just a understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebodys bleach blonde, bad built butch body that would not be engaging in personalities, correct . What now . Chairman i make i make a motion to strike those i dont think thats part of the hanafi and clarification on what you just said. Were not gonna were not gonna do this. Like you guys earlier literally okay, so get calm down. Calm down. No, no. Because proceed youre not recognized you with your yellow white mom down, you please call me to calm down you are out troll as if mr. Chair okay. Order all right. Melanie nonna joins us now, live on capitol hill all right. Well. That. Was embarrassing. What else is marjorie Taylor Greene saying tonight . Melanie will greene is not backing down and she is not apologizing. Not only did she doubled down on those insults towards democrats, but in the last hour or so, shes now attacking Speaker Mike Johnson for criticizing her behavior. Let me read you part of what she wrote on social media. She said, how ridiculous is it that the speaker runs his mouth about decorum when our Opposition Fuses to follow it at all. Now, Speaker Mike Johnson did not mention green by name today and its no secret that they have been at odds ever since greene tried to oust him from the speakership, but johnson did say that he thought that Chaotic Outburst Last Night was regrettable, and he encouraged members to treat each other with respect and dignity and to follow proper decorum. So theres really was a big distraction for republicans who are trying to keep the focus on their efforts to hold the Biden Administration accountable. And meanwhile, of course, shes also merchant Taylor Greene facing heat from democrats who have pointed out her past history with racist remarks, congresswoman crockett said that greenes decision to point out her eyelashes and talk about her looks was rooted in racism and thats why congresswoman crockett said she felt the need to fight back so hard. But in response, greenes office said the only person who brought up any reference to color was congresswoman crockett. But indeed this is just not one of the finest hours inside the house of representatives, which frankly over the past few year or so has really not seeing a lot of high moments to be frank with you, erin fair . Fair point. All right. Thank you very much, melanie. I want to go now to the democratic congressman, jamie raskin of maryland. Hes the Ranking Member of that committee. You just saw the House Oversight and Accountability Committee and we saw you there. Obviously, of course congressman on camera in that. So marjorie Taylor Greene tonight saying she wont apologize, said all she did was state facts and she now has words for you. She says she just posted every single Committee Hearing, every single floor Speech Democrats attack smear and hurled personal insults against president trump, just like jamie raskin did in his Opening Statement last night. What do you say to her . Posting this now thanks for having me because theres so much emotion and passion in politics, parliamentary institutions have rules and the rules are very clear in terms of the language we can use. You can debate the substance of issues, all that you want in a wide open, robust way, you can debate the process taken place as much as you want. But you cannot engage in facetoface personal insults against other members including mocking their physical appearance. So this was a failure of leadership when the chairman of the committee declined simply to rule her words out of order and to have them taken down as Mesocosm Cortes immediately moved to do when he refused to do that at that point, it unleashed the chaos in the committee. And thats what led to ms crocketts clever answer in the form of a hypothetical question. About what the chairman would actually indulge in terms of dialogue going forward. And i told him, if you allow this to take place, you are destroying rules and decorum in the committee and ms green had actually done this before when she displayed pornographic Photographs Putatively from Hunter Bidens laptop although that was never proven anywhere and she displayed in a committee in a completely irrelevant in immaterial way that nothing to do with where youre talking about. And again, the chairman was afraid to discipline her and to tell her no. And at a certain point, the republican conference is going to have to get on top of their marjorie Taylor Greene problem but instead they continue to empower her so i looked speaker johnson, there are many in their party who would agree with you fully, wholeheartedly just ask ken buck but i want to play a moment that has gotten a bit lost in all of this drama. And this is near the end when you are practically begging for an adjournment for the night let me just play that i think these 17 hour days might not work for us something about working yeah. Maybe showing up for a vote you have a lot to say being that youre on retainer for the judges daughter sorry, trust one case, mr. Chairman we should strike those words. I hope you brought your popcorn ms after we called maher, theyre making comments about marjorie is body, so we can determine this is we should, we should adjourn, mr. Chairman notion at the desk. Mr. Chairman i think my body is pretty good and im going to be one of order all right. And you could hear her there at the end comes from could you just explain you made the comment about 17 hour days . But what exactly even even happened here was the reason that you were all there on a 17 our de well, im glad youre asking because the Markup Session that you saw which was supposed to be about theyre ridiculous attempts to hold the Attorney General of the United States of america of america, Merrick Garland, in contempt was scheduled for 11 00 a. M. Yesterday and then suddenly at the very last minute in the middle of the night, it was moved from 11 00 a. M. To 8 00 p. M. And weve not done an unnecessary nighttime session like that. So everybody was trying to find out why. Well, then it turned out we learned from the media there were five Members Navarro Committee who went and followed the spiritual pilgrimage up to Donald Trumps criminal trial in new york during the day following, speaker johnson in going up to trumps trial the loss of those five members meant that the democrats would have been in a majority on, in, on our committee. And in the Markup Session, and therefore or they couldnt abide that, so they moved it to 8 00 p. M. When they got back from new york in a number of them a number of republican members missed votes in order to go to duck, Donald Trumps trial when they got back, they tried to truncate the proceeding to cut off debate about whether or not the Attorney General should be held in contempt. They tried to reduce the amount of amendments we could have in the amount of time we have to introduce some elements when we successfully thwarted that. At that point, they just begin or hurl insults at our members. And then when they got through that period and maybe you could show this to for the first time in 70 years. They cut off the minorities attempt to offer amendments and to have debate on what they were doing. And so in their completely ridiculous effort to sanction the attorney john the United States, in order to cover up for their historic flop of an Impeachment Investigation, they trampled pretty much every rule pool that we had and trashed the decorum of our committee before we go, congressman, could i just ask you one other thing . Congresswoman crockett has suggested that alcohol may have been a factor in greenes behavior, which which which started all of this were you able to see anything on that or have any do you think theres anything to that well, but i did not see anybody drinking. There were certainly people drinking out of cups. There. And our colleague from new mexico, ms barry raised that she asked the question whether there was drinking king of alcohol taking place in either the Committee Rooms or in the hearing but it was a very rockin frat style atmosphere that took place at 8 00 p. M. Again, when these members came in from new york, number of them having missed the legislative proceedings for the day so this was to me a radical breach of decorum and i would hope that speaker johnson, if not chairman comer, could get on top of whats taking place over there. But in any event, all of it follows from the lawlessness of donald trump, who made them launch this stupid Impeachment Investigation . In the first place, theres nothing there, and theyve got nothing real to talk about im congressman raskin. I appreciate your time. Thank you you bet. 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Elizabeth wagmeister is out front with the story, and i do warn you, youre going to see this video here and it is difficult to watch new Surveillance Footage obtained exclusively by cnn appears to corroborate some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul Sean Diddy Combs, the video captured on multiple cameras, shows combs wearing only a towel, assaulting his thengirlfriend, cassie ventura, in a hallway at los angeles its hotel in march 2016, a lawsuit filed by Ventura In November last year and settled the next day referenced actions that seem to match those seen in this video. There is no audio according to the complaint, comes became extremely intoxicated and punched ms ventura in the face, giving her a black eye which according to the lawsuit, prompted ventura to try and leave the hotel room. The Surveillance Video obtained by cnn begins as she enters the hallway. The complaint says, as she exited, mr. Combs awoke and began screaming at ms ventura. He followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. The complaint goes onto say, he grabbed her and then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her in the Surveillance Video comes can be seen grabbing ventura and throwing her to the ground as ventura lies on the ground, combs then kicks her twice and attempts to drag her on the floor back to the hotel room. Ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone. Comb seems to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and appears to shove her in a corner. Moments later, he can then be seen throwing an object in her direction, according to venturas now settled lawsuit, the pair began dating several years after they met in 2005. They parted ways in 2019 combs attorney said the decision to settle was in no way an admission of wrongdoing. Ventura declined to comment on the video, but her attorney told cnn the gutwrenching video has only further confirmed the disturbing and predatory behavior of mr. Combs words cannot express the courage and fortitude that ms ventura has shown in coming forward to bring this to light. The video hasnt been seen publicly before and comes on the heels of a series of Civil Lawsuits Alleging combs involvement in Sex Trafficking and sexual abuse allegations that combs has repeatedly denied authority, searched combs homes in los angeles and miami and march, as part of an ongoing federal investigation carried out by a team thats specializes in Human Trafficking crimes in a December 2023 statement, combs responded to the claims in some of the lawsuits saying sickening allegations have been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday. Let me be absolutely clear. I did not do any of the awful things being alleged now we have not heard back from Sean Diddy Combs, attorneys other than that statement that we saw from him on his instagram, which wasnt even specifically about cassie, that was about all the lawsuits, but who we are hearing from tonight, erin, is caseous husband. She is married and shares two young daughters and he posted what he said was a letter to women and children. This is part of it. He says, quote, men who hit women arent men, Men Who Hurt Women Hate women to all this survivors. Your stories are real and people believe you. I want to raise my daughters in a world where they are safe and loved. Hes getting a lot of praise for that statement tonight, erin. All right. But thank you very much. And i want to go now to charles, allowed to vote here he is the Executive Producer at tmz, which just released the documentary, the downfall of diddy and charles. You have covered combs career for decades so what was your reaction when you first watched this video absolutely stunned aaron. It was its one thing to read those allegations in a lawsuit. But when you actually see the violence that did he exerted on cassie, it is just stunning to see someone that we have a lot of us have grown up listening to his music and enjoying him as an entertainer. Its really difficult to think about that and to see him in that light. After you see him doing this in this video, right . And it seems that he obviously it was where there could be Surveillance Video and had bought it and how did at home it seems from then they went and searched his home and had it so it is incredibly disturbing, your documentary on Combs Fear Feature and his downfall specifically feature several people who have known him incredibly well over the years. One of them is named aubrey. Oh day, a singer for years was part of the group formed by combs on the mtv show, Making The Band and just in the context of what were seeing now, this shocking video, i want to play for video, for viewers, something she said the miss treatment was enough for me to have to spend a good amount of time and the hands of professionals to learn what Group Roaming is an unlearned the grooming, the abuse was significant enough to change the course of my life charles you knew about people saying things like that. You knew the stories now obviously youre seeing this video with your own eyes. Whats different now . Yeah. I mean, whats different now is actually that there is proof before it really amounted to a she said he said and aubrey had been making these claims very loudly for years and i think what she what she told us is when youre going up against someone is powerful influential as diddy is in the entertainment world. Its hard to get people to believe you unless you have some hard proof like this. And even if they believe you, its hard to get them to speak out publicly and support you because the reality is people fear a backlash. And charles, just to, i guess, just to think about this again here, the statement that he put out, but elizabeth was sharing here that i am not do not do any of these horrible things that have been alleged. Now, i know other things have been alleged, but now we know that not only did he did he did he hit her and do this . That he knew he bought the tape. He hit it i mean, does it does it does it change your view of the person that i know you have covered and all of you with your work have seen up close and personal for many years yeah. It absolutely does. Because he made that denial. I know that he could go back and say that that statement was only referring to the other lawsuits because at that point, he had settled the casie lawsuit. And so in his mind, maybe hes thinking thats not even part of the equation anymore. Thats not something people should be discussing but obviously, people work discussing it. And even after he made that statement in december, more recently, within the last week, he posted something referring to i believe the state moves Something Like time will show time will reveal the truth and that statement clearly is come back to bite him now because time has revealed the truth, because now weve seen this video and its really odd that he would have posted Something Like that. Again, it makes you wonder whats going through his head when he obviously knows that this happened. And maybe just thought it would never ever come out. Right . It says we knew we had the tape, but who knows what else in his home and then it was when you had federal agents come in. Well charles, i really appreciate your time. 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And learn more at no time toait that kernel tonight, Daring Donald Trump to testify, the centrist political group, third way is challenging trump in a new ad take the stand, donald are admit your a coward this fadh comes as newly unearthed sound from 2004, shows trump telling Martha Stewart that she needed to testify in her own defense in her Obstruction Of Justice case. Listen for yourself devastated that martha didnt testify. I wouldve sent testified and i think that jewelry of 12 people is saying like, tell us you didnt do it, i wouldnt want to hear from all the secretaries and everything else, many of whom were nullified and badly nullified. You gotta get up in the stand and i know its tough. She has to get up in the stand and she has to say, i didnt do it. Im innocent i mean, we dont want to hear from secretaries this is this is exactly of course, what weve weve heard, right . Trumps assistance have common testified and people who signed checks and manage check, thats what weve seen in this case. Now, trump also took a victory lap after Martha Stewart was convicted, he told playboy and park quote, i think martha made a tragic mistake when she didnt testify. When i heard she wasnt testifying, i said shes absolutely going to be convicted for now. Defense attorney terry austin, familiar face, of course, to everyone watching. Shes been in court for trumps trials since the beginning. So terry, i mean, youve been watching this jury and you see trumps point of view. I mean, its as if if you just change the names hes talking about himself. And it shows his worldview that had she stopped spoken for herself, she wouldnt have been convicted do does this jury, as you look at their faces every day, do they want to see him get on the stand and say quote, unquote, i didnt do it. Of course they do. Anytime you have a crime that involves intent, the jury is going to want to hear from that defendant. This crime is 34 counts. We have those checks, those vouchers, and those ledgers, and all of those say that look, the invoices, all of it is saying you intentionally falsified these records. The during to know whether or not you knew these were false records. They also want to know whether he did it to influence the election and only trump can testify to that. And i do think the jury, even though they havent been looking at him, aaron, theyve been looking at the attorneys. Theyve been looking at the witnesses. Theyre not really focusing on him, but i think they would want to hear from him because the crime involves intent right and involves intent. So clearly, right. Thats the whole point. I mean, now its the Martha Stewart thing, i think just really shows how he sees things because Martha Stewart was this was a Wall Street Crime and a new york situation and somehow personal to him. But he has also taken the other side of this in cases of others he knows, like mike tyson in 1992, he said mike size since lawyers were wrong to let him testify in a rape case, where tyson was found guilty. Heres trump if he didnt testify, he would have been exonerated totally at the jury said that mike was arrogant. He was a horrible witness from what i understand. And im not surprised. I mean, i wouldnt say that and always speaking, you dont put my goal as a witness, but he was a horrible witness now no, daddy wouldnt think theres about himself. He would think hed be a horrible witness, but it does show that he could see this a different way. So terry, when you think about what would be asked and how much the defense could control, whats in the realm of trump im padding to talk about. Do you think that his lawyers are going to do it . No, i dont i dont think his lawyers want him to do it. I think theyve probably advised him of that. They already cannot control him. The judge has said to the attorneys for trump, you havent been able to control your client with all of these gag orders . So i dont think theyre going to be able to control him when he gets up on that stan and dont forget hes going to have to sit through Cross Examination and hes going to i think have to take the fifth. And if you take the fifth, thats even worse than weve heard trump talk about defendants who take the fifth, that must mean theyre guilty. I dont think theyre going to put him up there. All right . Thank you very much. A great weekend. And of course, well see after the next day of trial next a grim discovery in gaza, the bodies of three people taken hostage reportedly found in a tunnel no application fee. If you apply by may 31st at University Of Maryland global campus, offering online and high get rid courses and lifetime career services. Learn about are more than 125 degrees and certificates at umg c dot edu a heart attack. Do they have Life Insurance . 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And i appreciate your taking the time david israel says 129 hostages are still believed to be in gaza do you do you think this is just the beginning of more horrific discoveries and that that more of those 129 individuals, then than we even realize now may no longer be alive. Well, obviously this is the great fear ones heart goes out to the families of those who had been discovered. Today. Its an absolutely appalling situation that they face and its been going on for seven months and obviously, the great trauma of the last two weeks is that if you think back to weeks ago, there was number one real sense that the ceasefire and hostage release talks. Were getting somewhere. Yeah. Secondly, there was a real sense that theyre war humanitarian aid, openings of crossings that would allow some of the relief to reach people in desperate need. And there was a sense that the rafah attack was some weeks or even months of whats happened over the last few weeks. Is that the humanitarian situation has got much, much worse, 600,000 people on the move when you will description of the situation has apocalyptic is im afraid appropriate because these are people with nothing fleeing with nothing at reaching places where there is nothing. And its an appalling set of choices that are faced by the mall at the moment secretary miliband, weve got some new video. We just got here. It seems ive rafah. This is just lines of people theoretically, these people are waiting for food. You see the rags are just waiting to try to fill up those containers with any kind of food that they can. The World Food Program has said, just today that anymore ll Escalation Rafah bring humanitarian operations to a standstill to a standstill, and then we heard, oh, that that floating dock that the us had built did actually get some aid coming in today. What is the situation right now is is any coming in . And then i guess its a very separate question. Is anywhere near enough coming in . Well, theres a trickle coming in, but the trickle doesnt equate anything like to the flood that is needed. The trickle of aid, the equivalent of 15 trucks came through the us built pier. But what your viewers need to understand is that the land crossings are effectively close, are aid workers cant get in. We have a few aid workers on the ground. We cant get our doctors and surgeons into the hospitals that wed been working out. We cant get aid workers, then we cant get the food aid or the medical aid in. Weve done a study with our partner, the medical aid for the palestinians. And we found that the average child is getting 3 of the daily water intake that is recommended as three cent of the clean water that they need. So thats how you end up in a situation where there are serious and credible reports of children dying of malnutrition and starvation of our surgeons reporting that when they du operate on people, they find the inner organs emaciated and where you find secretary blinken saying that there is an imminent threat of famine this is an unprecedented descend into the hellish situation that is faced. And yet the former israeli Prime Minister and have Tally Bennett at last week told me something quite different about the civilian losses in gaza. Let me play it israel using bumps to target civilians absolutely not. Never, we never target civilians in fact, we have the lowest ratio of Collateral Damage in the history of urban warfare were bending over backwards in order to prevent unnecessary deaths otherwise, wed get this whole thing done within three days if we didnt care about it does that track at all with what your organization is seeing in gaza . But what we can report is that the facts and what we are seeing which is yes, the 34,000 people who have been killed. We think thats an underestimate we can tell you about the injuries, the horrific injuries to innocent children, and this is not about intentions, this is about the reality on the ground 2. 1 Million People living there. And so this is not about judging the intentions. Its about judging the realities and the actions and im afraid that the humanitarian situation in gaza now represents an absolutely grave threat to the lives of 2 Million People. Thats not a military question. Thats a humanitarian question