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Tonight on 360 breaking news and cnn's exclusive investigation to disturbing online posts made years ago by the republican nominee for governor of north carolina as questions swirl about how former president trump will or will not deal with the brewing scandal. In the crucial swing state also allies of the former president on the georgia election board we have passed a controversial new rule that could delay election results in that key state. Georgia former lieutenant governor, republican joins us and later, my conversation with the family, one of the six israeli hostages recently executed in a tunnel by hamas. Good evening. It's been a little more than 24 hours since an exclusive cnn report detailed disturbing online posts made years ago by north carolina's controversial gop nominee for governor mark robinson. And the reverberations continue to be felt in that crucial swing state and beyond. Moments ago, we learned that those lewd posts had been removed from the porn forum called nude africa it's unclear whether the comments were removed by robinson or the site's administrators neither the candidate that campaign or nude africa responded to inquiries from cnn. There's also works and i just 46 days until the election that a highprofile fundraiser for robinson, there was supposed to feature the head of the republican governors association that's no longer happening and trump, who has previously praised robinson is headed to the crucial battleground state for a campaign event tomorrow, it seems downfall. Robinson will appear with the former president at a rally, but unclear, cnn's kfile investigative investigative team found that comments made by robinson between 2008 and 2012 on this message judge board for the pornsite nude africa, in which robinson expressed a love of transgender pornography among other things. And also praised slavery. Professor, professor, a preference for hitler over president obama, and called martin luther king junior a quote, commie robinson, who is currently north carolina's lieutenant governor, denies making those comments despite the kfile discovering that the user profile contained his full name plus an email address that he used on numerous websites for decades. The big question tonight is how the former president will or will not react trump likely needs north carolina, of course, to win and polls show a tight raised the top of the ticket there. The election has officially begun north carolina absentee ballots have been sent to members of the military serving overseas according to the new york times, after trump heard about cnn's reporting, he wanted quote nothing to do with the scandal and didn't see why she got involved and quote the times also reports his impulse was to quote, ignore the controversy and power through, but the times says, quote, people close to him anticipate he will deliver a version of a comment he has made about countless supporters of former aides that he hardly knows the guy trump suggesting, however, that he doesn't know mark robinson who says he's not dropping out of the grace that may be hard today, the harris campaign started airing this ad in north carolina an unbelievable lieutenant governor, mark robinson for me, there's no compromise on abortion. I think you're better than martin luther king would could pass a bill, so you can have an abortion in north carolina for any reason? fortunate in this country, it's about killing a child because you aren't responsible enough to keep your skirt down. I've been with them. I've gotten to know him and he's outstanding and late word from the senior senator from north carolina, republican thom tillis, quote, if the reporting on mark robinson as a total media fabrication, he needs to take immediate legal action if the reporting is true, he owes it to president trump and every republican to take accountability for its actions and put the future north carolina and our party before himself joined now by north carolina democrats but congressman jeff jackson, he's also the democratic nominee for north carolina attorney general. Congressman. Appreciate you being with us. Are you surprised robinson has refused to drop out of the race know this has been who he's been. And frankly, i'm not surprised by the recent revelations if you're from north carolina this is not a surprise. I know the rest of the country has just now burning about him, but we've known who mark robinson is for a long time. He's referred to gay people is felt. He has said that god doesn't call women to weed. He's been carrying around a lot of hangar lot of anger and a lot of hatred for years much of i mean, do you think it has much of an impact not just in the gubernatorial race, obviously, but potentially the presidential race. I do. I mean, look, north carolina is a 5050 state that is full of 5050 races, including mine, including the presidential race. A swing of 25,000 votes could be the entire margin. I think you're going to see a backlash of basic decency. Look, they're going to be people who look at these comments he's in favor of slavery wants to own slaves, wants to join the kkk says positive things about hitler recommended reading mine comp said that it was a good read and a real eyeopener. People are going to make a decision that's not based on politics, but that rather is based on basic decency you know, it's interesting. You say you weren't surprised even by the comments that he'd made on this porn site. But some of the comments or seemed completely at odds. I mean, he's said a lot of things about transgender people according to his porn history and comments on this site, you know, he seems very actually interested in transgendered watching transgender people there does appear to be some hypocrisy on the far right, there does appear to be some hypocrisy in the moralizing. This is someone who's big issue was condemning abortion and it was revealed that he paid for one for his wife you've noted that your opponent in the north carolina attorney general raised republican congressman dan bishop, has repeatedly praised mark robinson in the past. Do you think it's going to affect your race? i think there's gonna be fallout across a number of racist because frankly, all these republicans, statewide candidates gaped mark robinson, a bear hug years ago because he was more popular than they were. So they've been heaping praise on him. My opponent for attorney general was dan bishop. He said that mark robinson was a thoughtful in a learned student of history who brings a fresh person effective and he wants to be his sidekick as attorney general. He's going to have a hard time walking that back. That's not a code that where as well. In the wake of this, i mean, that he's pressing student of history. Do you expect trump to do that? i hardly know the guy line i think he probably will. The ironic thing is, i think mark robinson is following the trump playbook specifically after access hollywood, he's just going to put his head down, say the media is whine and power on. But trump knows that that's not going to work, that this is a special level of toxicity, very close to the election. So trump has to deal with it. Ironically but robertson is going to behave like trump would in his position and just call everybody wires and march on. Your you're running to fill north carolina's attorney general, josh stines, seat as he runs against robinson, the latest polling numbers show that stein is leading i mean, there's no chance that i was assuming you think there's no chance that robinson can still win the race? he was like ten points behind before this story even broke if mark robinson wins this race, it will be the biggest upset in my lifetime. Guardsman jeff jackson. I appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Seen an anchor, abby phillip. Joins us now along with ashley allison, who was national coalitions director for the bidenharris campaign in 2020 and erin perrine former director of communications for the trump 2020 campaign and this is such an, i don't even know where to begin with this thing the fact, i mean, first of all, i just didn't know the rollout comment sections in portau a pretty big he's like doing political commentary on this site is very strange to me do you think? i mean, these posts have been removed, which is interesting, not clear if it's robinson or the website who have removed them what do you make of that yeah. I mean, look, i think that there's a lot of evidence that that is in the kfile story that points to this being mark robinson's page i think the denials are what they are, but it would be almost like suspending disbelief to think that all of these different elements of identity verification that went into this warrant weren't true. And by the way because he's he says well, ai i mean, this is about 2008 2012 these are posts that are more than a decade old at this point. Before ai was really a major factor in our lives. So i think that that is what it is, but it's also the reality that of mark robinson being a person who even before this had a long and checkered history, there were reports about his frequenting porn stores and there ports about his paying for an abortion it's part of a long list of things that he has done and for the republican party to just now decide that this is the moment that mark robinson becomes unacceptable, is another trend in that they are backing candidates a trump backs that are bad candidates, candidates that democrats are basically praying for, that they are really celebrating about in kamala harris headquarters right now because this is exactly the scenario, a weak candidate and actually a candidate who might turn out democratic leaning voters that they, that they need in a state like north carolina to make that state competitive. Actually, you mentioned the trump campaign has shied away from addressing the revelations, including j. D. Vance, who tried to shift the focus to harris when asked about robinson how much of a liability i mean, does a downballot race impact down trump in north carolina? i think it could particularly because of the way prior to the kfile reporting happening, donald trump was so aligned with mark robinson. I mean, comparing him to a better version of martin luther king, that is a pretty high compliment that someone can give so the thing getting that you can distance yourself from this individual without actually saying that is i don't think is a good strategy, but i also think because it's the governor's race maybe if this was a state senate senator that was running, it wouldn't be as prominent, but this is the person who's going to lead the state of north carolina's the second name under donald trump and kamala harris on the ballot. So they are very closely related. And i think that it could have an impact, particularly because north carolina is so close right now in a way that most folks didn't think it was going to be with joe biden on the ticket, so this is not i'll say this politically. This is not good for donald trump trump or mark robinson before america. This is awful that we have this type of person that is hypocritical and so hateful and leadership and that is seeking such a high office in the state erin, i mean, center until us this statement which again says robinson should take legal action if the reporting is false or take accountability. I'm not sure we're taking accountability would would mean because i mean, he's on the ballot the deadline has passed for forgetting somebody else what would that look like? and do you think trump should address this or do you think it will do the i don't know this person i anticipate trump will do the i don't know this person, but it's already clear in polling that north carolinians were already separating donald trump from mark robinson because mark robinson was polling so far behind donald trump. At this point. So i understand the strategy of kamala harris and her campaign putting out an ad to try to tie the tumor that them together more we're closely, but trump was already well ahead of of robinson on the ballot as of this point in the race. So i anticipate most republicans in north carolina will be putting space between themselves and robinson not doing events with him, not hugging him in and trying to create that space because ultimately, it's the top of the ticket that people will be voting for. Donald trump is the one that will likely be the one that drives the voters either to the ballots for him or against him. But ultimately his numbers really don't shake a or move much at all, given any controversy that's happened at any point, any other races, donald trump has a very high very high basement, but a very low ceiling. And when it comes to movement in the polls yeah but you know, this this fundraiser for the by the republican governors association in the state that apparently has been canceled according to according to a source, it's going to be an interesting sort of test case on the tech tactic now, which has just deny anything and just try to barrel through. I mean, there's, you know, there used to be a sort of shame. There used to be some calls shame in politics that you know, there's some people felt that actually a slight sense of shame and might step back. That's kind of that's just old, never backed down, never apologize. I mean, that is the trump way. And even when it's selfdefeating, i mean, the deadline actually was last night for them to for mark robinson to withdraw from the race that they could have put someone else essentially in that slot. Imagine if the republican party had had a serious conversation with themselves, two weeks ago and exerted more influence to change the composition of that race. They would be looking potentially at a competitor competitive governor's race and the state of north carolina. So it's the only reason that they're doing this is because that is trump's way. But it's going to lead to pretty clear electoral losses. Probably in this race and and several others as well. Actually, the last democrat to carry north carolina was president obama back in 2008 what else do you need? harris should be doing to increase your chances of winning in the state. Now in georgia you know, she's got the person who was working with senator warnock on his race yes who was bringing warnock two counties just trying to pick off as many votes as possible yeah. I think that the harris campaign should talk about the coalition they are trying to build. There's a lot of hbcus. So young black voters to really galvanize and that was a strategy in at 22,008 north carolina also has a lot of folks who have moved from the midwest and are moving down into north carolina the population is shifting. I also don't think you should discount rural parts of north carolina and so really going out, having a conversation with voters, talking about the her opportunity to the agenda, talking about what it's like to have a family and wanted to buy a home or wanting to raise your children and not have to struggle that firstyear with her child tax credit. So there's a lot of opportunity there. I also think they need to continue to connect donald trump to mark robinson. It is unacceptable for the republican party not to completely condemned these comments. That he has made before and that he is being accused of making now, on this breaking news <\/a>and cnn's exclusive investigation to disturbing online posts made years ago by the republican nominee for governor of north carolina as questions swirl about how former president trump <\/a>will or will not deal with the brewing scandal.<\/a> In the crucial swing state also allies of the former president on the georgia election board <\/a>we have passed a controversial new rule that could delay election results <\/a>in that key state. Georgia former lieutenant governor, republican joins us and later, my conversation with the family, one of the six israeli hostages recently executed in a tunnel by hamas. Good evening. It's been a little more than 24 hours since an exclusive cnn report <\/a>detailed disturbing online posts made years ago by north carolina's controversial gop nominee <\/a>for governor mark robinson.<\/a> And the reverberations continue to be felt in that crucial swing state and beyond.<\/a> Moments ago, we learned that those lewd posts had been removed from the porn forum <\/a>called nude africa <\/a>it's unclear whether the comments were removed by robinson or the site's administrators neither the candidate that campaign or nude africa <\/a>responded to inquiries from cnn. There's also works and i just 46 days until the election that a highprofile fundraiser <\/a>for robinson, there was supposed to feature the head of the republican governors association <\/a>that's no longer happening and trump, who has previously praised robinson is headed to the crucial battleground state for a campaign event tomorrow,<\/a> it seems downfall. Robinson will appear with the former president at a rally, but unclear, cnn's kfile investigative investigative team found that comments made by robinson between 2008 and 2012 on this message judge board <\/a>for the pornsite nude africa, in which robinson <\/a>expressed a love of transgender pornography among other things. And also praised slavery. Professor, professor, a preference for hitler over president obama, and called martin luther king junior <\/a>a quote, commie robinson,<\/a> who is currently north carolina's lieutenant governor, denies making those comments despite the kfile discovering that the user profile <\/a>contained his full name plus an email address <\/a>that he used on numerous websites for decades. The big question <\/a>tonight is how the former president will or will not react trump likely needs north carolina, of course, to win and polls show a tight raised the top of the ticket there. The election has officially begun north carolina absentee ballots <\/a>have been sent to members of the military serving overseas according to the new york times,<\/a> after trump heard about cnn's reporting, he wanted quote nothing <\/a>to do with the scandal and didn't see why she got involved and quote the times also reports his impulse was to quote, ignore the controversy and power <\/a>through, but the times says, quote, people close to him anticipate he will deliver a version of a comment he has made about countless supporters of former aides that he hardly knows the guy trump <\/a>suggesting, however, that he doesn't know mark robinson who says he's not dropping out of the grace that may be hard today, the harris campaign started airing this ad in north carolina an unbelievable lieutenant governor, mark robinson for me, there's no compromise on abortion. I think you're better than martin luther king <\/a>would could pass a bill, so you can have an abortion in north carolina for any reason? fortunate in this country, it's about killing a child because you aren't responsible enough to keep your skirt down. I've been with them. I've gotten to know him and he's outstanding and late word from the senior senator from north carolina, republican thom tillis,<\/a> quote, if the reporting on mark robinson as a total media fabrication,<\/a> he needs to take immediate legal action if the reporting is true, he owes it to president trump <\/a>and every republican to take accountability for its actions and put the future north carolina and our party before himself joined now by north carolina democrats but congressman jeff jackson, he's also the democratic nominee for north carolina attorney <\/a>general. Congressman. Appreciate you being with us. Are you surprised robinson has refused to drop out of the race know this has been who he's been. And frankly, i'm not surprised by the recent revelations if you're from north carolina this is not a surprise. I know the rest of the country has just now burning about him, but we've known who mark robinson is for a long time. He's referred to gay people is felt. He has said that god doesn't call women to weed. He's been carrying around a lot of hangar lot <\/a>of anger and a lot of hatred for years much of i mean, do you think it has much of an impact not just in the gubernatorial race, obviously, but potentially the presidential race. I do. I mean, look, north carolina is a 5050 state that is full of 5050 races, including mine, including the presidential race. A swing of 25,000 votes could be the entire margin. I think you're going to see a backlash of basic decency. Look, they're going to be people who look at these comments he's in favor of slavery wants to own slaves, wants to join the kkk says positive things about hitler recommended reading mine comp <\/a>said that it was a good read and a real eyeopener. People are going to make a decision that's not based on politics, but that rather is based on basic decency you know, it's interesting. You say you weren't surprised even by the comments that he'd made on this porn site.<\/a> But some of the comments or seemed completely at odds. I mean, he's said a lot of things about transgender people according to his porn history <\/a>and comments on this site, you know, he seems very actually interested in transgendered watching transgender people there does appear to be some hypocrisy on the far right, there does appear to be some hypocrisy in the moralizing. This is someone who's big issue was condemning abortion and it was revealed that he paid for one for his wife you've noted that your opponent in the north carolina attorney <\/a>general raised republican congressman dan bishop,<\/a> has repeatedly praised mark robinson in the past. Do you think it's going to affect your race? i think there's gonna be fallout across a number of racist because frankly, all these republicans, statewide candidates gaped mark robinson, a bear hug <\/a>years ago because he was more popular than they were. So they've been heaping praise <\/a>on him. My opponent for attorney general was dan bishop. He said that mark robinson was a thoughtful in a learned student of history who brings a fresh person effective and he wants to be his sidekick as attorney general. He's going to have a hard time walking that back. That's not a code that where as well. In the wake of this, i mean, that he's pressing student of history. Do you expect trump to do that? i hardly know the guy line <\/a>i think he probably will. The ironic thing is, i think mark robinson is following the trump playbook <\/a>specifically after access hollywood,<\/a> he's just going to put his head down,<\/a> say the media is whine and power on. But trump knows that that's not going to work, that this is a special level of toxicity, very close to the election. So trump has to deal with it. Ironically but robertson is going to behave like trump would in his position and just call everybody wires <\/a>and march on.<\/a> Your you're running to fill north carolina's attorney general, josh stines,<\/a> seat as he runs against robinson, the latest polling numbers <\/a>show that stein is leading i mean, there's no chance that i was assuming you think there's no chance that robinson can still win the race? he was like ten points behind before this story even broke if mark robinson wins this race, it will be the biggest upset in my lifetime. Guardsman jeff jackson.<\/a> I appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Seen an anchor, abby phillip.<\/a> Joins us now along with ashley allison, who was national coalitions director <\/a>for the bidenharris campaign <\/a>in 2020 and erin perrine <\/a>former director of communications <\/a>for the trump 2020 campaign and this is such an, i don't even know where to begin with this thing the fact, i mean, first of all, i just didn't know the rollout comment sections <\/a>in portau a pretty big he's like doing political commentary on this site is very strange to me do you think? i mean, these posts have been removed, which is interesting, not clear if it's robinson or the website who have removed them what do you make of that yeah. I mean, look, i think that there's a lot of evidence that that is in the kfile story <\/a>that points to this being mark robinson's page i think the denials are what they are, but it would be almost like suspending disbelief to think that all of these different elements of identity verification <\/a>that went into this warrant weren't true. And by the way because he's he says well, ai i mean, this is about 2008 2012 these are posts that are more than a decade old at this point. Before ai was really a major factor in our lives. So i think that that is what it is, but it's also the reality that of mark robinson being a person who even before this had a long and checkered history, there were reports about his frequenting porn stores and there ports about his paying for an abortion it's part of a long list of things that he has done and for the republican party to just now decide that this is the moment that mark robinson becomes unacceptable, is another trend in that they are backing candidates a trump backs that are bad candidates, candidates that democrats are basically praying for, that they are really celebrating about in kamala harris headquarters <\/a>right now because this is exactly the scenario, a weak candidate and actually a candidate who might turn out democratic leaning voters that they, that they need in a state like north carolina to make that state competitive. Actually, you mentioned the trump campaign <\/a>has shied away from addressing the revelations, including j. D. Vance, who tried to shift the focus to harris when asked about robinson how much of a liability i mean, does a downballot race impact <\/a>down trump in north carolina? i think it could particularly because of the way prior to the kfile reporting happening,<\/a> donald trump was so aligned with mark robinson. I mean, comparing him to a better version of martin luther king, that is a pretty high compliment that someone can give so the thing getting that you can distance yourself from this individual without actually saying that is i don't think is a good strategy, but i also think because it's the governor's race maybe if this was a state senate senator <\/a>that was running, it wouldn't be as prominent, but this is the person who's going to lead the state <\/a>of north carolina's the second name under donald trump and kamala harris on the ballot. So they are very closely related. And i think that it could have an impact, particularly because north carolina is so close right now in a way that most folks didn't think it was going to be with joe biden <\/a>on the ticket, so this is not i'll say this politically. This is not good for donald trump trump or mark <\/a>robinson before america. This is awful that we have this type of person that is hypocritical and so hateful and leadership and that is seeking such a high office in the state erin,<\/a> i mean, center until us this statement which again says robinson should take legal action if the reporting is false or take accountability. I'm not sure we're taking accountability would would mean because i mean, he's on the ballot the deadline has passed for forgetting somebody else <\/a>what would that look like? and do you think trump should address this or do you think it will do the i don't know this person i anticipate trump will do the i don't know this person, but it's already clear in polling that north carolinians were already separating donald trump from mark robinson because mark robinson was polling so far behind donald trump. At this point. So i understand the strategy of kamala harris and her campaign putting out an ad to try to tie the tumor that them together more we're closely, but trump was already well ahead of of robinson <\/a>on the ballot as of this point in the race. So i anticipate most republicans in north carolina will be putting space between themselves and robinson not doing events with him, not hugging him in and trying to create that space because ultimately, it's the top of the ticket that people will be voting for. Donald trump <\/a>is the one that will likely be the one that drives the voters either to the ballots for him or against him. But ultimately his numbers really don't shake a or move much at all, given any controversy that's happened at any point, any other races, donald trump has a very high very high basement, but a very low ceiling. And when it comes to movement in the polls yeah but you know, this this fundraiser for the by the republican governors association <\/a>in the state <\/a>that apparently has been canceled according to according to a source, it's going to be an interesting sort of test case <\/a>on the tech tactic <\/a>now, which has just deny anything and just try to barrel through. I mean, there's, you know, there used to be a sort of shame. There used to be some calls shame <\/a>in politics that you know, there's some people felt that actually a slight sense of shame and might step back. That's kind of that's just old, never backed down, never apologize. I mean, that is the trump way.<\/a> And even when it's selfdefeating, i mean, the deadline actually was last night for them to for mark robinson to withdraw from the race that they could have put someone else essentially in that slot. Imagine if the republican party had had a serious conversation with themselves, two weeks ago and exerted more influence to change the composition of that race. They would be looking potentially at a competitor competitive governor's race and the state <\/a>of north carolina. So it's the only reason that they're doing this is because that is trump's way. But it's going to lead to pretty clear electoral losses. Probably in this race and and several others as well. Actually, the last democrat to carry north carolina was president obama <\/a>back in 2008 what else do you need? harris should be doing to increase your chances of winning in the state. Now in georgia you know, she's got the person who was working with senator warnock <\/a>on his race yes <\/a>who was bringing warnock two counties just trying to pick off as many votes as possible yeah. I think that the harris campaign should talk about the coalition they are trying to build. There's a lot of hbcus. So young black voters to really galvanize and that was a strategy in at 22,008 north carolina also has a lot of folks who have moved from the midwest and are moving down into north carolina the population is shifting. I also don't think you should discount rural parts of north carolina and so really going out, having a conversation with voters, talking about the her opportunity to the agenda, talking about what it's like to have a family and wanted to buy a home or wanting to raise your children and not have to struggle that firstyear with her child tax credit.<\/a> So there's a lot of opportunity there. I also think they need to continue to connect donald trump to mark robinson. It is unacceptable for the republican party not to completely condemned these comments. That he has made before and that he is being accused of making now, on this site ashley allison,<\/a> abby philip,<\/a> in for new. Thanks so much, abby. It's going to be baffled newsnight, of course, at 10:00 tonight, coming up with a new rule, push by allies of the former president, make vote results <\/a>in georgia more chaotic. 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Well, what we saw <\/a>is the republican majority on the state election board push <\/a>forward this rule change <\/a>that would go into effect in october against the advice of the secretary of state, against the advice of the republican attorney general against the pleadings of bipartisan election officials across the state. And essentially what it does is it says that after you've conducted this whole election, russian election workers, you've been awake all day. You need to hand count the number of ballots that have been turned in. You need to compare that to the number of ballots that voting machines <\/a>say we're cast and compare those two numbers. And so there are a lot of concerns about this from the perspective of statewide election officials and local election officials. One so you know, they've been working all day hand <\/a>counting paper ballots is not a perfect science. Usually the machinecount numbers are better and that you have a chain of custody issue <\/a>with these ballots. So the view of voting rights experts <\/a>on election experts <\/a>is that this could just inject a lot of chaos. It could delay figuring out who won the state <\/a>and we've seen in the past hunger, it takes account the more we had these kind of conspiracy theories <\/a>fester so what happens next what happens next is sort of a question of who is going to sue and when there's a statement today <\/a>after the meeting from georgia secretary of state <\/a>brad raffensperger, that sort of hints at that. He says attorney general chris carr <\/a>has stated that these rules would not withstand legal challenge, and i have worked every day to strengthen georgia's election law to ensure our elections remain safe, secure, and free. It would not be the first time the state election board <\/a>has been sued as a result of rules they've passed just this year. They're already in court over <\/a>ruled regarding election certification <\/a>and saying state or local boards can conduct their own reasonable inquiries before they certify the election results. So i expect we're going to see more lawsuits and anderson, i think what's really important about what we saw <\/a>in georgia today <\/a>is this a sort of an early glimpse, a preview, if you will, of the kind of stuff we're going to see in the runup to and after november, we have a lot more folks who are election skeptics <\/a>that are in positions of overseeing but even administering elections. And so there's just a lot more of this. It's still to come. Sara murray.<\/a> Thank you. Joining us now, cnn political commentator geoff duncan,<\/a> the state's former lieutenant governor. He also testified before the grand jury <\/a>in the georgia election interference case <\/a><\/a>first suggested you just your reaction to this handcount role in your home state <\/a>because this is what a lot of election deniers fires have been pushing for saying it should all just be paper ballots and handcounted. Obviously, there's often more human error <\/a>in hand counting <\/a>ballots than machines yeah, this newly can reconfigured state election board. They got their way. They've been carrying donald trump's water for months now, ankle biting it. It's solutions in search of a problem in today, they injected the ultimate asterisk mark <\/a>into our november election. They are able to change laws to follow conspiracy theories <\/a>instead of reality and it's unfortunate, and we're in this juxtapose because even if these lawsuits come forward, then the maga crowd <\/a>is going to scream at donald trump's going to be that the chief cheerleader saying that he didn't get a fair opportunity to run a fair election. So it's really a difficult spot. I once again call on republican leadership from every corner of this state, county city,<\/a> state legislative.<\/a> Even the governor's office to call on. This as loud as absolute possible that this is a horrendous idea. And it usurps democracy and its ultimate format we should point out, i mean, the election in georgia was free and fair and there was no widespread voter fraud.<\/a> So all of these conspiracy theories <\/a>are just, they've been looked at and examined there's nothing there fast forward to election night <\/a>this year what would this new process mean for georgia's count in practice? well, it would slow it down and it would inject a human element <\/a>to it, which once again is really the secret sauce to these conspiracy theories <\/a>is doubt. They've planted the ultimate seed of doubt. And it would just allow open up for opportunity and delay the actual count and the verification or certification <\/a>of the election process,<\/a> which time? time is your enemy and elections, you want to get them, you want to get the votes in crisp, clean, counted. And registered as quickly as you can to eliminate any sort of doubts or in proprieties. But look, these guys aren't interested in winning this election, fair and square, and that's by putting a good candidate forward that can actually win. There's no reason why a republican candidate for president shouldn't be way out in front in the state <\/a>of georgia, eight statewide constitutional officers are republicans strong majorities with republicans in the legislature. The only time or republican loses in georgia is when donald trump puts his fingers on him, we have to us senators to prove that case the atlanta journal constitution <\/a>reports that according to a recent survey conducted by the paper sizable majority is democratic and india pennant <\/a>voters in the state <\/a>believed the election will be fair and accurate, but less than half of georgia republicans <\/a>express such confidence even with this handcount, if the former president loses in the state, do you think georgia republicans <\/a>will accept that decision? well, they're going to have to once again, he will he will have led to losing the losing team. My hope look,<\/a> anderson, this whole thing from day one <\/a>for me is not about trying to get popularity. It's about trying to fix the republican party and it needs to start here in georgia. We are broken at our core as republicans here in georgia, we have a state party <\/a>that is despite functional and only solely warships one person and one person only. And that's donald trump. He could say jump off a bridge and they would do it. He could say rig an election and they would try to do it. That's exactly what's happening with the state <\/a>election board. So assuming this is going to be challenged in court, do you think it will be overturned in court? i'm not an attorney. I don't even get to play one on tv. My hope is it is my hope that it quickly is overturned and allows the laws in place because the realities of this were so close to the actual election day <\/a>in there just makes no sense to do it. I don't want any doubt and look if donald trump wins this state, so be it. It is what it is i'll accept the results let's move on. Kamala harris wins, then the other folks on the other side should accept the votes and move on. 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Com slash tv vice <\/a>president harris just wrapped up remarks in madison, wisconsin state <\/a>is part of the socalled blue wall <\/a>seen as a critical part of harris's campaign strategy. If vice president impressed upon her supporters tonight,<\/a> that as we mentioned, the election is just right around the corner. The legs in 46 days and early voting has already started in some states voting in wisconsin starts in just 32 days and in fact, many of you may have already received your mailin imbalance. So all that to say the election is basically here it's basically here. And we have work to do to energize to organize, and to mobilize, and to remind everyone. Your vote is your voice, and your voice is your power, and never let anyone take your power from you. Madison, today i asked him, are you ready to make your voices heard joining me now is democratic senator tammy baldwin, who appeared with vice president harris at the rally. There isn't a close reelection race <\/a>of hurricane center baldwin.<\/a> Thanks for being with us. I want to get to the state <\/a>of the race in wisconsin a moment. First there's a cnn reporting that the republican nominee for governor in north carolina, mark robinson you know, posted these disturbing comments on this porn forum <\/a>back in 2008, 2012 the story broke province in, denies it. The former president has publicly praised robinson in the past he hasn't really said much of anything about this. What do you think this means for vice president harris, his chances to win there yeah. Well, first of all, what he said was absolutely disgusting and in my mind, he has no place in public office but i have to say there seems to be a theme this year in races across the country where democrats are running candidates who have deep respect for the people whose votes they're seeking and republicans are nominating folks that seemed to be insulting the very people that they seek to represent. Look at j. D. Vance and his comments about childless cat. Ladies, look at my opponent, who has disparaged people in nursing homes,<\/a> suggesting they shouldn't be able to vote called farmers lazy <\/a>and we deserve as voters, people who respect the very people whose votes they're seeking the latest marist poll <\/a>shows extremely tight race in wisconsin, vice versa,<\/a> harris leads the foreign president by singlepoint among likely voters, 50 to 49% well within the poll's margin of error, showing no clear leader. Obviously 2020 biden won with just some 20,000 votes. I think it was and i think right two counties really made the difference. What is vice president harris need to do to win wisconsin and how much is your own senate race? impacted by her race? there yeah. Well, let me let me just start by saying that wisconsin has been the battleground state in many presidential elections. It was the tipping point state <\/a>that gave trump the white house <\/a>in 2016. And you mentioned how close the victory for biden was in 2020? they are tied, right now. And in my race the three recent polls i've seen have had us within the margin of error. In fact, real clear politics just took us from a lean democrat to tossup and the republicans are spending millions tens and millions of dollars. My opponent is a multimillionaire who is selffinancing his campaign. And so i will say if anyone wants to help out, you can go to tammy baldwin. Com and get five or ten or whatever you can afford. But in terms of what harris needs to do, she did it today, showing up and you got to show so up in red parts <\/a>of the state, purple parts of the state, and blue parts of the state. And she has to continue to make the contrast between what she's running on,<\/a> what she is about and what donald trump is pushing on our fundamental freedoms. Donald trump <\/a>put three justices on the supreme court <\/a>who overturned roe and she of course is a champion for restoring reproduction, reproductive health.<\/a> I lead the bill called the women's health protection act, which would codify roe at the federal level on health care. Trump and my opponent, eric have it would repeal the affordable care act <\/a>in its entirety, stripping health care away from millions of people. I helped write the affordable care act, including the provision that allows young people to stay on their parents health insurance <\/a>until they turn 26 we have such a stark contrast and she needs to continue to come do these swing states,<\/a> these battleground states <\/a>like wisconsin, and make the case and make the clear contrast center bowl <\/a>when i appreciate your time, it's a close race, will continue to follow it. Thanks very much. Thank you for having me take care. You've heard about the six israeli hostages executed recently in a tunnel by hamas in a moment,<\/a> i'll talk to two young women who's 24yearold sister was one of those hostages. We'll be right back. Have i got news for you <\/a>tomorrow at nine on cnn i'm danny. I'm days and we're we've asked national design and remodeling <\/a>partners, bmi, look out for custom designs from me and remodeling tips <\/a>for me i'm excited. 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And many countries have designated as a terrorist organization.<\/a> Lebanon's health ministry <\/a>says, at says 14 people were killed and dozens more were wounded. Now this comes after the remote detonation, as you know, across lebanon and explosive pagers and walkietalkies used by his blood this week that killed dozens and injured thousands. Israel hasn't officially taken responsibility for those attacks, but cnn has reported the exploding pagers <\/a>were a joint operation <\/a>by israel's intelligence agency, the mossad and the idf well,<\/a> tonight we're also learning more about one of the six hostages who was executed by hamas late last month and found in a tunnel it didn't. Yerushalmi was kept kidnapped on october 7 <\/a>from the nova music festival.<\/a> She tried to flee or to friends in a car,<\/a> but hamas gunman shot up the vehicle, killing her friends eddin,<\/a> survived that attack, which is incredible when you see all the cars bullet holes <\/a>in this video, she pretended to be dead, was able to call her sisters. She later left the car and hidden in a eucalyptus bush <\/a>to remained in contact with her sisters the whole time until gunman found her there. They've caught me were the last words she spoke on the phone eddin,<\/a> turned 24 in captivity recently, i spoke with her two her sister, shani, and my shani were on the phone with your sister for hours on october 7 <\/a>after she had left the nova festival,<\/a> was trying to hide. You were with her on the phone until the moment she was captured in all that time. And in all the nearly more than 300 days since did you ever give up hope that she would come back alive? do you always believed she would be alive? we believe yes. We believe that she will come back to us alive. We had so much faith and actually, there's something that we've never told no one before but we did have had proofs of live from eddin. Actually three times in the last time the last proof of life that we got from eddin was exactly 20 days before that before the two got murdered so we had so much faith. Wow. So you had three times proof of life over all this time, jets in just 20 days before she was killed with the last time you had evidenced that that that she was alive? yes the idf, shani, they released this video of the tunnel we're adding in the other five hostages were killed. Where were they were found what did what did they tell you about the conditions there? so we know we know that the tanner was very narrow and also very low we know that they couldn't they barely could stand fully we know that when they they couldn't sleep next to each other, but only in line there will no windows, no air, no light. Barely food, and if they needed to go to the bedroom, they will false too to do it in a bag. And in an empty bucket of water in human my <\/a>i understand. You. In your parents got to see it. Eddin before the funeral that was important to you to actually to see her a few hours after they happening, they asked us if we want to see her body and they warned us that it's going to be very hard for us told us that she got shot in the head from very close range. And she had mark mark <\/a>on her hands before they shutter and they told us that our body shape <\/a>was bad situation and our parents say chose to see her face. Of course, we said yes, we wanted to see her because we haven't seen her for 11 months since october sen. <\/a>And we wanted to say goodbye and solvay <\/a>and to say sorry, that we couldn't find her sooner and alive and then our parents say gotten first and they saw and they chose to see her face the keystone were in the side that they could and then mentioned wanted to go there to and we chose to see only her feet and her friends because this is the only it was enough for us and we recognize it. In by this and before we got out, we gave her a hug. Ellis stagger <\/a>to say goodbye <\/a>to her and she was so so thing we could feel her bones sticking out and i've done that way. We got an after that, we found out that she did her body weight <\/a>only 779 pounds and she's 24 24yearsold woman and this is something that we will never imagine that her body will look, looks like this. They stopped the hell before the amount of hail after the funeral hamas <\/a>released a video and we have not shown that video on purpose i know you and your family want us to show a small portion of it of your sister because she's talking about your family. Can you just before i actually showed to people, can you just tell us why you wanted people to see? the this part of that video we wanted people to see how away hamas <\/a>treated the hostages and innocent civilians in our case. I will assist. There is 24 years or deanne woman <\/a>and you can see in that video hello the bags under the eyes, how tired she is you can see that she's very thin, very weak, very weak. That she she mrs.<\/a> As she misses a fairly she caused our names. She she touched her heart with her hand. You can see how desperate cheese believe everyone needs to see this to see how hamas treated the hostages and also to see how strong and the strong she's i want to add that this video she she looks in a bad way. This video and it's not from the last month, it's from january, february. So just imagine how worst she came back just imagine i want to play just that portion of the video that you have asked us to play if any, going but when you've got gas and eva me my annual for kim koike <\/a>money daughter were they able to tell you anything about about that video in particular only that they took kids probably between january, february what do you want people to know about about your sister? our sister, aden, was a happy person and she lived life to the fullest and she loved life and she was a great sister. She wasn't in mai an amazing sister, an amazing friend. She had a lot of friends. And now she's our angel. We are still we still have more 101 hostages in gaza. We have to we have to save them we have to put pressure on hamas. It's not enough. 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And after that, hundred and 25,000 homes will be powered by sun wind.<\/a> And iron batteries with four days backup <\/a>is excel decarbonizing <\/a>as a strategy yeah. So we are decarbonizing and strategy we have had a goal to get to 100% carbonfree energy <\/a>by 2050 for a number of years. Now, two years ago, the minnesota legislature <\/a>passed a law that said they want to get to 100% carbonfree energy <\/a>by 2040. So that's now our target. And we're on track to meet that, that pilot coal <\/a>ways around 1. 7 million tons and about six years it'll be all gone the smokestacks will be obsolete but this fossil of a different age will remain a valuable part of the community. Pushing out clean energy from wind farms <\/a>and solar fields <\/a>all around the state <\/a>but this is also a model for the rest of the country. A study out of cal berkeley <\/a>found that the u. S. Could double its power capacity <\/a>by building new energy <\/a>next to old infrastructure minnesota <\/a>for economic reasons, was already moving to face because our cold. But what the inflation reduction act <\/a>did through its tax credits <\/a>is give extra incentives for when you phase out a plan to fossil fuel plant,<\/a> to build something new right? there and use the bones us and the connects you, you use the site is actually being used, but the more important thing is you're using an existing way to connect to the electric grid minnesota <\/a>recently completed a transmission upgrade,<\/a> but the lines are already strained by all the new supply and demand.<\/a> So like a fast pass <\/a>at disneyland, this method allows clean energy projects to skip the years long wait for grid connection <\/a>while making the shift a lot less jarring for local communities. What does that mean for workers? can the same people who are now working in coal come over and work in sunlight. Well, some of them can, so we've got about 240 workers at the plant and what we have told them is, if you want a job with xcel energy <\/a>after that plant retires, you'll have a job with xcel energy. Would this have happened without the tim walz <\/a>administration? mission and their targets wouldn't have happened without the inflation reduction act <\/a>that joe biden. Yeah. So the walls administration <\/a>has been really great to work with and the ira benefits have been really significant for our customers. That helps us move through this transition while bringing customer bills <\/a>down compared to what they otherwise would be. We're extracting about $300 million of ira benefits for our customers at this project alone. He says their customers will eventually reap billions in tax incentives <\/a>as excel, winds down dozens of fossil fuel plants, all part of a quiet industrial revolution,<\/a> steadily spreading nationwide bill weir, cnn, becker, minnesota quick programming note <\/a>to tell you about this sunday on cnn <\/a>or fried zakaria <\/a>to talk to a former secretary of state hillary clinton <\/a>among the many topics they cover is the public's long fascination with her marriage i think for me and as i've said this for many years nobody <\/a>really knows what happens in a marriage, except the two people in it. And every marriage i'm aware of has ups and downs not public hopefully for everyone else and you have to make the decisions that are ripe for you. And i would never tell anybody else stay in a marriage, leave a marriage, whatever the easy answer is, and you know, for me and for us i think it's fair to say we are so grateful that at this stage of our life our grandchildren, we have our time together. You know,<\/a> i write about how we start the morning playing spelling bee <\/a>in bed and you know, bill is like such a great player. He gets to queen b <\/a>almost immediately. It feels like we just have a good time. We have a good time sharing this life that we've lived together for now, nearly 50 years of marriage that's what is right for us and that's really my message. Fareed zakaria gps <\/a>that airs sunday <\/a>at 10:00 a. M. And 1:00 p. M. Eastern right here on cnn. That's it for us. Open. Have a great weekend. I'll see you monday. The news continues right now. 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