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CSPAN Washington Journal August 20, 0711

For independents and others, that is 202 7488002. You can also send us a tax. Make sure you tell us your name and where you are texting from. That is 202 7488003. On twitter, it is cspanwj. Lets start with the polling on this. Both cases are the result of cases on the front of the new york time. Present isnt above the law. Custis is decide. Two cases. The court ruled seven to two that new york prosecutors could seek mr. Trumps financial records. Vote they call the liberal block and conservative block, those considered in this decision that voted for this. Same result in the second case, and the same majority ruled mr. Trump, for now, could block disclosure of his financial records to House Committees, returning the case to lower courts to narrow the scope of the records sought. Both of those cases in the polling on the cases from the New York Times shows in obtaining the right to the president tax records, most people,ulled most 61 , polled the prosecutors have a right in the president should not be able to block access to House Committees with the tax record. Records. Take a look at the wall street journal, trump dealt set back on disclosures. One of the coauthors is a Supreme Court correspondent for the wall street journal. Good morning. How are you. Good morning. Us through the different aspects of each. The first one, the one involving the new York District attorney. Cyruss investigation cyrus ofs invested cyrus investigation the president has denied those claims. Hush moneyse payments were recorded in the Trump Organization business records. , the new York District attorney, picking up on that investigation to see if any new york state crimes may have been committed in those transactions. He is seeking those records from the accountants of mr. Trump and the Trump Organization. He is that is what he is after. The president intervened. Once the District Attorney issued a subpoena saying he is immune from investigation by state prosecutor while he remains in office. He has constitutional immunity from even investigative process short of indictment. Host does the courts decision mean the District Attorney will be able to get those records anytime soon . Guest probably not soon if we mean soon like next week. But what the court said in essence is that the president has no absolute immunity. He is limited to the same types of defense as anybody who is being investigated can raise about alleging the subpoena is too broad or prosecutor is engaging in some selective prosecution. Those are typical defenses, and if he has some claim he is being harassed to interfere with his official duties, he might raise that defense in federal court. Those will certainly be explored by the president s lawyers. I dont think they will be anytime soon the prosecutor will get the records, but it seems plausible he could get those within a matter of months. Host what about the other case . Certain House Committees seeking records. What were they looking for . Guest they are looking for the same records, the same set of records. The fact that new york subpoena was modeled on one of the House Committee subpoenas. The outcome in that case was somewhat different. Essentially, the Supreme Court the the interest of congress in that information is perhaps less significant than the prussic eaters looking into evidence into a specific crime. That is his rationale. The houses rationale was that they need information to inform future legislation. The Supreme Court seemed to feel that was perhaps less urgent and the house would have to demonstrate why and what exactly it needed records for the president for to pursue that course. Court was concerned the house did not really give limits to its power to investigate the president. They thought the president s gave hiswas he arguments to the ability to exclude house investigators. Host you write in your wall street journal piece that cases like this are rare because, during most of u. S. History, the executive and legislative branches have worked out accommodations that reflected each others roles. At the same time, no president s private dealings have been under criminal investigation, providing no previous opportunity for a conflict between a local grand jury and white house to arise. The majority,es, make note of the failure of legislative and executive branch to work out their differences become before coming to the court of last resort . Guest absolutely. Chief justice who wrote the opinion made that point quite clearly and seemed disappointed forced to that he was intervene in this dispute between coequal political branches, elected branches. He almost tried the two sides for not being able to reach an accommodation. Accommodations have been reached and are motivated by not having a course go to this or bring court with the boundaries of each branchs power not to precisely defined by the constitution. Neither one once to risk a big loss at the Supreme Court. Here, we are not in that kind of era. Each side was willing to go for broke. Host lastly, the president s two appointees voting with the majority in the 72 scission on balance decision on balance. Have those two generally voted in favor of administration cases involving the Trump Administration . Guest in general, they have sided with the administration. Not always. This is one most significant example, but last month, Justice Gorsuch wrote the opinion of shovel rights projections civil rights projections to lgbt employees. Trump took the opposite position. So they have not always voted with the president. This time, quite the significantly, they did not. Host a Supreme Court correspondent with the wall street journal, thank you so much for the update. Guest any time. Host here is how it is being reported. In the washington beacon, their headline, Supreme Court gives manhattan prussic your access to trump financial records but rebuffs house democrats. Your calls, your comments. 202 7488000 for democrats. 202 7488001 for republicans. For all others, independents 202 7488002. Tulsa, oklahoma and hear from david. Caller good morning. I think the Supreme Court decisions yesterday reflected that the individuals in the Supreme Court are not going to be bullied, unlike congress, particular the United States senate. It was a great victory for the three branches of government, that the president is not above the law. He will have to turn over his records at some point in time. I applaud the Supreme Court, applaud them for their decision, and patiently wait to see what will happen from this point forward. Host there was a significant decision effecting your state. Of the three decisions, the two trump financial records cases, this is the tulsa world and leading story this morning, tribal expert calls the ruling the most important in the state history, ruling oklahoma part of oklahoma is still part of indian territory. What are people saying about that in tulsa . Guest if you have studied oklahoma history, im a teacher and have taught oklahoma history, the eastern half of the state of oklahoma was allocated five civilized tribes. Majority leader. I say majority flee majority majoritively. I applaud the Supreme Court for to save thisurage land through treaties through decades over a century. Century belongs to Indigenous People who were removed from the southeastern part of the United States. Decision forndmark oklahoma and will be interesting to see how things work out on that. I think oklahomans in general applauding what the Supreme Court did. It will be interesting to see how it falls out. Host thanks for weighing in on that. We go to ohio on the financial records cases. Mike is on the independent line. Caller good morning, america. This doesnt bother me that a billionaire comes a Public Servant but chaos for decades. What bothers me the most people is how Public Servants, supposed to be working for us, can become a multimillionaire and the time they are in office. Our tax money is paid off. What we need to do is open up all of the records, financial individual and congress, and the family members. According to their rule, they are hiring family members and being in the Public Office are making themselves millionaires. What is wrong with this picture . What we need to do, i didnt vote for trump, and i will tell you one thing, i will vote for him because hes the only person in the building right there getting anything done. He said hes going to fix things. Now. Where we are trump had three years and fixed a lot of things. Host we hear from steven in the republican line. Onler i was glad yesterday the Supreme Court outcomes, particularly with the mayors case. I think that is more significant than the tax return case. Mainly because we dont know, financially, where his loans come from. At deutsche bank, there has been rumors on whether or not he had a cosigner or debt guaranteer connected directly to putin. Think we will actually have that information about who he actually secured his loans from the majors case before the election and end of this year . Host President Trump at the white house with comments. His thoughts on what came down. We are basically starting all over again, shutting everything down to start over again. On 1. Im satisfied and on another point am not satisfied. This is a political witchhunt, that have never been seen before. Just like the Mueller Report was a witchhunt, which i one. Won. Everyone is leaving new york. It has turned out to be a hellhole. They need to do something about it. This is a political witchhunt. It started before i got here, when obama and biden, and everybody else was spying on my campaign illegally. They were illegally spying on my campaign, and it is a very great crime. It is the biggest political crime in the history of our country. Host yesterday, the front page of the Washington Post justice is rejecteds immunity claims. The Supreme Court rejected President Trumps claims of immunity from local Law Enforcement and congressional investigators, a lesson on the separation of powers and limits of president ial authority. In one of the two rulings, chief rejectedohn g roberts trumps arguments that he did not have to comply with the subpoena and said vance had no authority had authority to pursue his business and financial records. In the other, the court says the restrictions the president imposed for private, nonprivileged information risk seriously impeding congress in carrying out its responsibilities. Still, the court put hold on the subpoenas, suggesting overreach. The court sent the cases back to lower courses, where they said trump could challenge the specifics. For democrats, 202 7488000. Republicans, 202 7488001. Independents and others, 202 7488002. Is cspanwj. T heres one thing i would like to officially thank neil gorsuch for brettnaugh kavanaugh for voting for the rule of law yesterday. Trump will avoid any meaningful oversight because the court ran out the clock. A new era begins and a future president will know no day of peace with mindless Congress Demanding anything and everything from the exec to branch and it executive branch and its head. Likeel in portland says, some of the other cases, the course didnt repudiate trump back for trumpse to rephase to have a better chance. These are not so much decisions rather than delays. Caller i dont think we should be investigating trump. He is our president. We should be letting him run our country. Instead of starting these meaningless investigations. First, we had the russian, then ukraine, now this. This is only going to further make it harder for him to run the country. Said gue of mine host to robert in maryland. Independent line. Caller good morning. Im calling. I dont understand. Aboutis a documentary now roy cohn called a coward and victim. Donald trump learned all of his lessons from him. , everything roy cohn did donald trump does the same way. Cohn didnt pay taxes either. Everything cohn did, trump does the same way. He claims to be a victim every time someone accuses him, tries to bully people. Its crazy. I cant believe people follow this guy. Host david graham rights the headline on his speech, trump is successfully running out the clock. 55 days ago, President Donald Trump was supposed to file his personal Financial Disclosures, which gave a broad snapshot of his money situation. The white house gave its employees 45 extra days to file the report, citing the coronavirus pandemic, making the new deadline june 29, 10 days ago. Trump still has not released the disclosures. The white house told the New York Times the president had been given another 45 days because of the pandemic again and he intends to file as soon as possible. Dont hold your breath rights david graham, and dont place any big bets on seeing the documents november 3. The Trump White House has perfected the art of foot dragging, producing regime, which the president is required to do certain things as a matter of transparency and accountability. In reality, a widely way to avoid them. Rule stands. In practice, where it stands is outside of the door, fruitlessly to common. Nancy pelosi, yesterday, talked about the decisions and what it means for the tour of house oversight. This is not so much about the president s records, although we would like to know how russia funded his operation all of those years but that is not what was at stake. What was at stake is the president above the law . Is this Court Friendly to the insident, going to rule favor of executive branch and say there is no congressional oversight . Undermining our system of checks and balances. For us, that is what was important and what is at stake, a system of checks and balances. As i say in my statement, the genius of the constitution. If in fact they would have ruled he is not above the law, that he can do whatever he wants without any oversight from congress, that would have been just devastating to tell you the truth. And we would still fight it. We would still fight it because they would have abandoned all president s and the rest rest ofce and the congress having oversight authority. However, they did not. The bickering is for the constitution of the United States. Host the wall street journals account writer writing about the speaker of the house in her column, supreme loser, pelosis house. Casesrsday, cut it into concerning the cases for President Trumps financial records, back to lower courts. If the cases had no clear winner, one of the rulings did produce a loser. Nancy pelosis overzealous house. Kimberly writes writing for the majority, john roberts took note of the houses unrestrained behavior, explaining this dispute was the first of its kind to reach the high court after two centuries in which congress and the white house were able to work such disagreements out. Can the court held congress continue pushing for sleepiness for casinos, but henceforward, all courts will subject subpoenas several tests. Kimberly ends by writing this, will the prior spirit of compromise and negotiation ever rain again . Reign again . Democrat antitrust mania created a separation of power circumstance that require judicial intervention. The ruling is another reminder for all demo rats about mr. Trump raking institutions and norms, and it is the resistance left that has produced the most wreckage. We go to our democrats line and hear from wayne in alabama. Caller yes, sir. I will vote for the guy i like thisest, but im surprised terrible court we have in this country. If you have money, you can have the case go from one court, to another court, to another court, and nothing ever gets done. I dont know why the Supreme Court exists. A rule, they make everybody agree to it. Like a judge for a traffic ticket or red lights, the judges word is the last word. The Supreme Court is making a mockery of the whole judicial system. I wish they would dissolve the whole thing. Host here is sandy on our republican line from kentucky. Caller hello . Host hi, sandy. Caller thank you for taking my call. I have been a republican for over 50 years, and im so appalled by his behavior. I will not vote for this man. Host are you still there . Caller yes, i am still here. My question is, how long are we going to let him get away with breaking laws that any other citizen cannot get away with . Racist, hasing, been racist since i lived in new york 50 years ago, 40 years ago with him. He has a strong record of racism. He will tell you right to your face he does not like you, and he gets a way with it. Ideal of aupremacist man that they want to run this country. He is running scared. The white man is running scared. That i havethings never im 70 years old that i have never seen in my whole entire life. Int we hear from brenda indiana, pennsylvania. A democrats line. Caller i am extremely disappointed with the decision not to allow congress to have access to his papers. I believe it is in the publics best interest to know whether trump is making decisions based on his best interest or hours. Ours. He brought the scrutiny on himself because for two years, he promised to release his tax returns and to the vests businesses or put them into a blind trust to divest his businesses or put them into a blind trust. He didnt do any of those thi

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