is responsible for his climate models. of course, skeptics are jumping all over this saying the whole thing is a farce. global warming doesn't exist. what do you think of the professor jones situation, the lack of statistically significant warming, and the fact that he may have misplaced some of the records? >> i think what phil jones is saying is that mother nature is perfectly capable of making the temperature rise and fall through the past several hundred years. and in terms of the data problems, well, we do have to be careful when we're talking about public policy, that means trillions of dollars. and we haven't had that very hard and critical situation where you take care of data and make it publicly available to anyone. that needs to be done now. >> jeff, final point here. who's in control of the global temperature, man or mother nature? >> well, i think mother nature is mostly in charge. and she's showing us what she can do this winter, that's for sure.