he said, revolution muslim, is quote, an extreme fringe group with no credibility in the muslim community. but nen he -- but then he went on to say, in fact most muslims suspect they were set up to make muslims look back. such outrageous, irresponsible things. he is basically saying they're not actually muslim because of what they're saying, they're some sort of non-muslim group trying to make muslims look bad. >> well, you know -- the answer to that is, great, let muslims come out, and say, we don't want a prophet or religious icon who is depicted as someone with no sense of humor. if you cannot laugh at your religious leader, then you are saying that the, he is a tyrant. you don't want to say that as muslims. let them come out and give a resounding answer to extremist groups like muslim revolution and let them marginalize them. >> and ayaan is a living example