>> it is certainly going to be more than 5,000. now that we have the video of the gusher, not a spill, a gusher, people from woodshall laboratories in massachusetts, one of the finest places for oceanographic studies, the professors from florida, top people saying a lot more than british petroleum told us. >> i misspoke. i meant 5,000 barrels compared to 70,000 barrels. >> it's more than bp has told the public. again they waited until after the congressional hearing this week. and now, we have got the video footage of what is going on undersea, for the first time. people are able to do calculations for themselves. we need more transparency out of british petroleum. it might be the time for the u.s. government to appoint a navy admiral, get a flotilla in the region. if this much oil as professors,