than that i'm quite sure among independents. so it's not that obama is pulling the democrats down. it's that the economy is dragging the democrats down and it's going to, they're going to have to move the needle on jobs. i've been saying that for two years. >> ed, you worked in the reagan white house. how worried should democrats be about that number involving independents? >> they should be really worried about it. the president is out there trying to help harry reid, a guy with a 44%, 45% approval rating needing the president trying to help a guy with a 36% rating. it isn't going to move the needle because the independents have moved away from this president and that is the critical vote. unless you get back 54% of those independents supporting you, democrats are going to get slaughtered and i think paul knows that. i know that. i think any smart democrat knows that. >> how do they turn that number around, paul? >> by makeing it a choice not a referendum. if democrats only go around and say look at me, look how wonderful and precious my