and what didn't you like about asking to check people's papers if they're stopped by the cops? what's wrong with that? >> is that a question to me? >> yes. >> sheriff arpaio makes it clear their procedures go on, and the phoenix police department says it goes on. there is human cry about sanctuary cities and the bill goes into effect says arizona can't have any sanctuary cities, and we didn't have any anyway but now it's clear we won't have in the future. i think the difference is pretty clear. either what police officers are doing now as a matter of discretion or department policy, 1070 would have made mandatory as a matter of state law. so the difference is does the state tell you exactly what an officer does in an arrest and in an investigation or is that dictated by the policies of the police officers? many of us feel that it didn't make a big difference. >> let me try this.