even the most effective way to prevent bullying. >> let me bring in rosalyn on that to address that point. let me come to you in a second. eliza, is that true? >> listen, i think the first thing i want to say is that focus on the family has chosen and, candi, you have chosen to attack the safe schools improvement act. what we find is that when school level policies actually mention sexual orientation and gender identity, rates of bullying and harassment go down. this is for all students. in 2005, students of all sexual orientations, races, religions told us when their school had this kind of policy in place, those students were less likely to say that bullying was a serious problem in their school. >> rosalyn, you work with schools all the time. >> all the time. >> you travel around the country. what do you actually see? do you see an agenda being spread and can you address bullying -- focus on the family is saying focus on the bully. is that an effective program?