bill. they don't mow. know. >> he said we have no confidence. small businesses have been hard hit if they try to get health care in the past. so the lack of understanding is -- i guess that part. i'm not quite sure why so many businesses have taken to blaming this particular administration. taxes are not higher and their health care costs we don't have evidence are higher either. so i think a lot of it is picked up by conversations elsewhere. i think his biggest concern is where interest rates are going and they are at historic lows. so he needs people to buy stuff so he can build stuff. >> okay. jim manufactures machinery springs and connector parts for the automatic troe industry. he's hire $100 workers. listen to what he had to say. >> both sides of the aisle, both administrations, did nothing for manufacturing. so we have to do now, we have to start talking fair trade. there should be a border tax for all those people that are importing things here and half