korans. do you think at this point -- you spent a couple of days with him privately. do you think he will go ahead and burn korans? >> i don't think so. i think he got the message from secretary gates, from david petraeus, from many christian leaders who have called on him to call it quits to that event. i think he is trying right now to put pressure on me and twist my arm and the arm of the imam in new york to try to achieve something beyond what we have agreed on. >> right. he's basically trying to save face is what you're saying. what does it say about him, about this pastor that if what you're saying is accurate, that he would stretch the truth or lie about something like this, try to insert himself into something that he hasn't been involved with at all and, after spending two days with you, not even know your name.
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