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decides to burn korans, yes, you have to have a camera there to see if there's any violence, but i think we ought to downplay this. >> i don't think anybody should show -- i mean, i certainly would not air images of this guy burning korans. i don't think anybody should. >> well, you know -- if al jazeera does that and we get a lot of protests around the world, i guarantee you we'll get sucked in again. i think the faster we can turn this guy's microphones off and turn off the lights, the better. he is living off the publicity and i can't tell you how much -- this is so -- this is damaging to the country now. i don't think -- i think it was unwise for the president to get as deeply involved as he has. i think it did give more legitimacy to this guy. but here we are and i think it's time now to find a way to shut off the microphones. >> and zuhdi jasser, you were opposed to building that mosque and islamic center near ground zero, although obviously they have the right under the constitution. what do you make, though, of this pastor trying to insert himself into that?
standing next to the pastor was another imam, a florida imam musri, who is president of the islamic society of central florida. here is what he said. >> i have made this morning contact with the office of imam feisal abdul rauf and got a commitment to fly up to new york and meet with him in the company of pastor jones to discuss and come to a decision on relocating the mosque in new york. >> there, he seems to be saying there's no actual deal, just discussion. a short time later the people behind the islamic center near ground zero said just that, there was no deal. then imam feisal rauf issued this statement. i'm glad pastor jones has decided not to burn any korans. however, i have not spoken to pastor jones or imam musri.
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to this crazy spiral that we're still on. >> what do you make of all of this? >> well, i think we've all been sucked in, involuntarily, into a freak show. this fellow is not just a lunatic. he's a jerk. he has been playing around with american lives. he is a publicity hound. he does live off the oxygen of media coverage. but as i learn more about it, i can see the dilemma the media organizations like cnn, it is true, general petraeus is acting in the best interest of the country, trying to protect lives, and spoke out about this, it naturally prompted the media to start looking at it. i do think we have now given him too much attention. if he decides to burn korans, yes, you have to have a camera there. but i think we ought to downplay this. >> i don't think anybody should show -- i mean, i certainly would not air images of this guy burning korans. i don't think anybody should. >> well, you know -- if al
korans. do you think at this point -- you spent a couple of days with him privately. do you think he will go ahead and burn korans? >> i don't think so. i think he got the message from secretary gates, from david petraeus, from many christian leaders who have called on him to call it quits to that event. i think he is trying right now to put pressure on me and twist my arm and the arm of the imam in new york to try to achieve something beyond what we have agreed on. >> right. he's basically trying to save face is what you're saying. what does it say about him, about this pastor that if what you're saying is accurate, that he would stretch the truth or lie about something like this, try to insert himself into something that he hasn't been involved with at all and, after spending two days with you, not even know your name.
just want to show you some breaking news that's happening in san bruno, south of san francisco. huge fire. apparently a gas line has been broken. a number of homes are at risk, if not already -- what was that? a dozen homes, i'm just ge getting new information right now. we're trying to get detail, talk to someone on the scene. we'll continue to follow this and we'll break in throughout this next hour as we're getting these pictures. extraordinary images out of california tonight. we'll continue right now, though, talking about the breaking news, a florida preacher calling off plans, then possibly calling them back on to burn korans to mark nine years of the 9/11 attacks. somehow possibly only in pastor terry jones' mind, thaul moved into some kind of compromise with the imam who wants to build an islamic center and mosque two blocks from the ground zero
jones, having called off plans for burning korans, this weekend, is back to square one. a deal had been reached, he told us earlier, in a nutshell, and i use the term advisedly, they would move the center for the site and he would cancel the koran burning. where did pastor jones get the idea to equate koran burning with mosque building in new york? political contributor paul begala, zuhdi jasser and senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. we debated, jeff, for a long time today whether or not even to cover this story. of course, it took all these bizarre turns and then it became, well, we do cover this story. this is one of those agonizing things where this guy is clearly an extremist. he represents a few dozen people. he makes money by selling
point is what happened. cal fire says they are sending 25 fire engines to the scene. we have seen them dropping retardant from the air by helicopter and plenty of folks are on the ground as well. clearly, they're bringing in more assets. a lot more ahead at the top of the hour, starting with the florida preacher, who said he was burning korans and then said he wouldn't. now he's back to square one. we'll talk to the florida imam who has been working with him for days and this man didn't even know his name. when you approach things from a different perspective, you don't end up with just another car. you end up with the all-new saab 9-5 luxury sport sedan.
still on. >> what do you make of all of this? >> well, i think we've all been sucked in, involuntarily, into a freak show. this fellow is not just a lunatic. he's a jerk. he has been playing around with american lives. he is a publicity hound. he does live off the oxygen of media coverage. but as i learn more about it, i can see the dilemma the media organizations like cnn have faced. it is true, general petraeus is acting in the best interest of the country, trying to protect lives, and spoke out about this, it naturally prompted the media to start looking at it. i do think we have now given him too much attention. if he decides to burn korans, yes, you have to have a camera there. but i think we ought to downplay this. >> i don't think anybody should show -- i mean, i certainly would not air images of this guy burning korans. i don't think anybody should. >> well, you know -- if al jazeera does that and we get a lot of protests around the world, i guarantee you we'll get
if he decides to burn korans, yes, you have to have a camera there. but i think we ought to downplay this. >> i don't think anybody should show -- i mean, i certainly would not air images of this guy burning korans. i don't think anybody should. >> well, you know -- if al jazeera does that and we get a lot of protests around the world, i guarantee you we'll get sucked in again. i think the faster we can turn this guy's microphones off and turn off the lights, the better. he is living off the publicity and i can't tell you how much -- this is so -- this is damaging to the country now. i don't think -- i think it was unwise for the president to get as deeply involved as he has. i think it did give more legitimacy to this guy. it's time to shut off the microphones. >> you were opposed to billing that mosque and islamic center near ground zero, although obviously they have the right under the constitution.