>> do we have an education system that's churning out the workers who are going to be the software architects who are going to be the mechanical engineers and chemical engineers and graduating enough kids from high school with enough skills and facing a public education system that for many years had a safety valve of manufacturing base that could take a lot of unskilled workers and turn them into middle class workers and then their children could go on to higher education? have we dismantled the safety valve and have bigger issues to talk about with education? it's all tricky and thorny and complicated, but the manifestation of that is that big gap. >> do you understand as you look at that that gap, folks watching us, how prepared you need to be, how competitive you need to be moving forward, the skill set you have to have at your disposal moving forward with that gap still? >> there are 4.6 available