like a stockholm syndrome thing? do you become buddies with the folks you were stuck with when maybe you weren't buddies with before? >> actually, the situation was that we had an american and russian on board. i was there with a russian crewmate. i had learned to speak russian and he had learned to speak english and we were working with the two control centers so we could all talk to each other. we became very close together in training. we trained together 3 1/2 years. we learned each other's languages. so in a sense, you're right, you do kind of bond with the person especially in an emergency situation, survival situation like these guys in the mine were or still are. >> guys on the right side of the picture what you're seeing, that's the top of the hole. we have just seen that shuttle, the capsule, fenix capsule go into the hole leaving the mine we're guessing 15 minutes or so before the next rescue. pablo rojas 45 years old. he's a carrier pigeon handler and he will be the 19th person