left wing agenda and does not like the tea party? >> again, you know, the reality here is he's -- >> i know, mcarthur award, it's a great thing, but he can hate the tea party and be a genius and hate the tea party, does that mean he should do a report? >> look. you can go through the footnotes. this is a 94-page report. go through it again and again and again. what you'll see as you go through this report and the footnotes, we didn't hire him, you've really got to check your facts. this report was not funded by us. i wrote the forward to it. >> well, his organization sent volunteers and personnel out to groups and they co-authored this reporter. so whether you hired them or not you are relying on their expertise and you believe their accuracy. >> and so does the mcarthur foundation. this is a guy who is one of the most distinguished people in this country. when it comes to tracking white -- you know, white extremist groups, the -- >> he gave a talk at the naacp convention in july and this is