company's revenue. >> well, that's their problem, not the taxpayers. i'm very sorry for the lockheed stockholders. but the reason we pay for defense is not to support lockheed stockholders. >> reporter: secretary gates is looking at overhead. but the former budget director says -- >> people are what really is the most expensive piece of defense. >> reporter: the choice may come down to reducing the number of troops or cut their benefits. within five years, military health care alone is going to cost $65 billion. >> it has to be addressed. it's not sustainable in its current form. >> reporter: so you saw that running tally in the corner. in the couple minutes that it took to tell that story, the pentagon spent $3 million. wolf, just to put this in perspective, let's pretend that each one of these cockies represents $100 billion. that's billion with a b. this is what the pentagon would