areas. this thing would have been crazy, had they not taken action. it was a smart move, tough but smart. >> was it a smart move or a lucky move? >> well, it was definitely a smart move. it's really tough. you couldn't imagine where we were two years ago, that we would be where we are now. relatively stable financial markets. it's amazing to me given the profit figures we're seeing that it doesn't square with the public sentiment. everybody still hates t.a.r.p. >> that may be the lessen to us all. it looks like rewarding the very people who caused the problem at the time. in the end it may have worked out well. >> can i make one other point on this. >> larry: >> yeah. >> there are still -- it's still important to make the point, it's not like a poker game where you can take your chips can and leave with your profit. it's very possible that the full costs of the bailout is not yet