saying, the wall is an eighth of an inch off and it won't work. and you have to replaster the wall. and everybody thinks, well, that's the mark of a great architect. but in a sense, yeah, like one contractor that i was trying to hire said, go away and i'll build the house. i said, what, are you nuts? you know? no. i had to -- i had to be there to make sure things were precise. >> larry: but architects more than any other profession are the most controlling of figures, are they not? i they so. i'm sure of that. it's their baby. >> it depends. no, no, no -- well, no, this was different. because, you know, maybe if an architect -- as a matter of fact, i had once asked quothme to once work with me on another house, something i wanted to build, like a southern plantation with spanish moss coming down and, you know, from the trees. but he said no, you have the